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Windows 10 is monitoring your activities. Is this a concern for you?

Windows 10 is monitoring your activities. Is this a concern for you?

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Crowlore
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06-04-2016, 10:24 AM
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I hear you, but I’m curious about what you mean by “not happening.” Are you suggesting something is concealing itself? It’s definitely plausible, and there are reasons why it might remain hidden.
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Crowlore
06-04-2016, 10:24 AM #21

I hear you, but I’m curious about what you mean by “not happening.” Are you suggesting something is concealing itself? It’s definitely plausible, and there are reasons why it might remain hidden.

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Streiyn
Posting Freak
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06-08-2016, 01:52 PM
#22
Microsoft must act quickly to stay competitive. If they are secretly monitoring users through Windows 10, businesses will abandon the platform at any cost and move to alternatives the following day. Their systems hold valuable data worth millions; any breach or unauthorized access could result in hundreds of millions lost in investments or research. Expect widespread legal battles against Microsoft in the near future.
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Streiyn
06-08-2016, 01:52 PM #22

Microsoft must act quickly to stay competitive. If they are secretly monitoring users through Windows 10, businesses will abandon the platform at any cost and move to alternatives the following day. Their systems hold valuable data worth millions; any breach or unauthorized access could result in hundreds of millions lost in investments or research. Expect widespread legal battles against Microsoft in the near future.

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XelaLP
Junior Member
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06-09-2016, 06:54 PM
#23
They don’t perform this action in the standard server or enterprise editions of Windows. They openly admit it. I believe a major issue here is the differing views on "spying" between users and individuals like SansVarnic. I explain it clearly: "a person who closely monitors another’s actions and words." Since that’s the official meaning, every time you search in Windows 10 it redirects to Bing’s servers. Why? I don’t know. What are these packets? I’m not sure. But I’m certain it happens even when I’ve told it not to. Microsoft offers ways to turn it off, but those options don’t actually disable it. That alone—along with other questionable behaviors—is enough for me to label it as spying. The claim that “non-personal information” is safe is misleading. They can trace everything back to you if they choose. Using terms like “anonymize” creates a misleading impression of security. The design assumes anonymity isn’t necessary because they want to distinguish repeated issues from isolated ones. This is why they assign unique IDs to each device and send those identifiers along with data. A number like 2445745134 may seem anonymous, but it carries extensive metadata—timestamp, sender’s location, MAC address, etc. As soon as any piece of information that could link back to you is transmitted, the entire record becomes traceable. It’s like writing a message with a special seal and including your address on every envelope. Even without your name, enough details remain to identify you. The only reason I might not know your name is if I didn’t search for it using your details. So no—Microsoft’s data isn’t truly anonymous. Anyone who says otherwise shows a lack of knowledge about computer security or dishonesty.
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XelaLP
06-09-2016, 06:54 PM #23

They don’t perform this action in the standard server or enterprise editions of Windows. They openly admit it. I believe a major issue here is the differing views on "spying" between users and individuals like SansVarnic. I explain it clearly: "a person who closely monitors another’s actions and words." Since that’s the official meaning, every time you search in Windows 10 it redirects to Bing’s servers. Why? I don’t know. What are these packets? I’m not sure. But I’m certain it happens even when I’ve told it not to. Microsoft offers ways to turn it off, but those options don’t actually disable it. That alone—along with other questionable behaviors—is enough for me to label it as spying. The claim that “non-personal information” is safe is misleading. They can trace everything back to you if they choose. Using terms like “anonymize” creates a misleading impression of security. The design assumes anonymity isn’t necessary because they want to distinguish repeated issues from isolated ones. This is why they assign unique IDs to each device and send those identifiers along with data. A number like 2445745134 may seem anonymous, but it carries extensive metadata—timestamp, sender’s location, MAC address, etc. As soon as any piece of information that could link back to you is transmitted, the entire record becomes traceable. It’s like writing a message with a special seal and including your address on every envelope. Even without your name, enough details remain to identify you. The only reason I might not know your name is if I didn’t search for it using your details. So no—Microsoft’s data isn’t truly anonymous. Anyone who says otherwise shows a lack of knowledge about computer security or dishonesty.

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Joustboy
Junior Member
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06-10-2016, 01:42 AM
#24
Numerous companies use Windows 10 Pro. In my environment, I run Windows 10 Enterprise with telemetry tracking active. I regret to say that this isn't about surveillance. This misinformation is being spread by anxious YouTuber content creators and articles on sites lacking expertise, filling gaps with guesswork rather than genuine research. Because search engines and app stores work together, they connect with both Bing and Microsoft servers. For instance, looking up "Candy Crush" shows an App Store result even if you don’t own the app, assuming you don’t. If you’re unsure, try an alternative app not available in the store. Your perception isn’t always accurate. Do you have evidence of this? Have you actually seen telemetry data? Or is it just speculation? That’s not my concern if you don’t trust Microsoft’s privacy policy. Such a rule could be challenged in court if they mislead. A unique ID is tied to the ad platform, which can be turned off. This feature was added in Windows 8. It’s worth noting that any web activity reveals your IP address, which can be traced back to your ISP and mapped on a location map—this is why Tor was developed. The data shared here doesn’t include personal details. Understanding that you adjust settings like screen brightness because of location isn’t considered personal information. Sorry. Sharing this info with a service doesn’t protect your privacy. For example, if you have a public Facebook profile and disclose sensitive details like credit card numbers or SSNs, you can’t hold Facebook accountable for misuse. This is your viewpoint on telemetry data. The only consensus is that an opt-out option should exist, and users must know what information is being transmitted at different levels—like agreeing to send extra telemetry even if no personal data is sent. Even without personal details, users should retain control over what enters and leaves their system.
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Joustboy
06-10-2016, 01:42 AM #24

Numerous companies use Windows 10 Pro. In my environment, I run Windows 10 Enterprise with telemetry tracking active. I regret to say that this isn't about surveillance. This misinformation is being spread by anxious YouTuber content creators and articles on sites lacking expertise, filling gaps with guesswork rather than genuine research. Because search engines and app stores work together, they connect with both Bing and Microsoft servers. For instance, looking up "Candy Crush" shows an App Store result even if you don’t own the app, assuming you don’t. If you’re unsure, try an alternative app not available in the store. Your perception isn’t always accurate. Do you have evidence of this? Have you actually seen telemetry data? Or is it just speculation? That’s not my concern if you don’t trust Microsoft’s privacy policy. Such a rule could be challenged in court if they mislead. A unique ID is tied to the ad platform, which can be turned off. This feature was added in Windows 8. It’s worth noting that any web activity reveals your IP address, which can be traced back to your ISP and mapped on a location map—this is why Tor was developed. The data shared here doesn’t include personal details. Understanding that you adjust settings like screen brightness because of location isn’t considered personal information. Sorry. Sharing this info with a service doesn’t protect your privacy. For example, if you have a public Facebook profile and disclose sensitive details like credit card numbers or SSNs, you can’t hold Facebook accountable for misuse. This is your viewpoint on telemetry data. The only consensus is that an opt-out option should exist, and users must know what information is being transmitted at different levels—like agreeing to send extra telemetry even if no personal data is sent. Even without personal details, users should retain control over what enters and leaves their system.

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TheOkis
Junior Member
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06-17-2016, 03:20 AM
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You need to turn it off. This can be achieved in the Enterprise edition. Actually, Microsoft began evaluating Windows 10 readiness for businesses after the update that enabled disabling it. A company I work with strictly prohibits any version of Windows 10 from running on their machines, due to ongoing concerns. Not what you think. The only factor preventing a clear case of surveillance is that they aren't conducting it covertly (especially regarding telemetry). It would fit the definition of spying if it were done secretly. Are you pretending to have overlooked our previous discussion where I demonstrated that everything you're asserting is incorrect? I clearly illustrated that even local searches, with Bing and app store data disabled, still managed to reach Bing and no results appeared in the store. I tried again—still got nothing from stores or the web because those features were turned off. And yes, I attempted it once more. No results at all. Remember our earlier conversation? Well, I have evidence. I’m not a conspiracy believer; I only presented facts. From their documentation on telemetry setup and their privacy blog, they stated that only data without direct identification can be collected under extreme privacy settings. Unique IDs are considered indirect identifiers. I can’t recall an exact quote, but one reason they use unique identifiers is to track repeated issues by the same person versus multiple users with the same problem—a valid point. Windows employs several unique IDs; at least one serves ads, but not all, and not all can be disabled. I’d appreciate research before fully supporting Microsoft’s position. I’m certain we’ve discussed this before. Also, your argument? Your ISP is very privacy-focused—it doesn’t log data, doesn’t share IP addresses, even though they’ve faced legal trouble for it. They’ve been cited by authorities and once hosted WikiLeaks. Why bring this up? When did I say the web was anonymized by default? I simply argued that calling Microsoft’s data practices “anonymous” is deceptive. They could trace the origin of any information sent, even if they chose not to. The only plausible explanation for “anonymity” is that someone at Microsoft hasn’t yet identified you. There’s a clear distinction between what Microsoft does and how platforms like Facebook operate. Microsoft handles data in the background without user awareness (most users don’t), offering settings that are optional but don’t match expectations. If a feature has an off switch, people should expect it to be off. You’re suggesting that because you could send personal info to Microsoft, it’s acceptable for them to passively collect it in the background. That’s not a fact—it’s a misunderstanding. 1) This isn’t just opinion; it’s verified. 2) My comment wasn’t solely about telemetry, but part of a broader concern. I believe Microsoft has been acting unfairly toward consumers, and this situation could lead to stronger protections for users.
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TheOkis
06-17-2016, 03:20 AM #25

You need to turn it off. This can be achieved in the Enterprise edition. Actually, Microsoft began evaluating Windows 10 readiness for businesses after the update that enabled disabling it. A company I work with strictly prohibits any version of Windows 10 from running on their machines, due to ongoing concerns. Not what you think. The only factor preventing a clear case of surveillance is that they aren't conducting it covertly (especially regarding telemetry). It would fit the definition of spying if it were done secretly. Are you pretending to have overlooked our previous discussion where I demonstrated that everything you're asserting is incorrect? I clearly illustrated that even local searches, with Bing and app store data disabled, still managed to reach Bing and no results appeared in the store. I tried again—still got nothing from stores or the web because those features were turned off. And yes, I attempted it once more. No results at all. Remember our earlier conversation? Well, I have evidence. I’m not a conspiracy believer; I only presented facts. From their documentation on telemetry setup and their privacy blog, they stated that only data without direct identification can be collected under extreme privacy settings. Unique IDs are considered indirect identifiers. I can’t recall an exact quote, but one reason they use unique identifiers is to track repeated issues by the same person versus multiple users with the same problem—a valid point. Windows employs several unique IDs; at least one serves ads, but not all, and not all can be disabled. I’d appreciate research before fully supporting Microsoft’s position. I’m certain we’ve discussed this before. Also, your argument? Your ISP is very privacy-focused—it doesn’t log data, doesn’t share IP addresses, even though they’ve faced legal trouble for it. They’ve been cited by authorities and once hosted WikiLeaks. Why bring this up? When did I say the web was anonymized by default? I simply argued that calling Microsoft’s data practices “anonymous” is deceptive. They could trace the origin of any information sent, even if they chose not to. The only plausible explanation for “anonymity” is that someone at Microsoft hasn’t yet identified you. There’s a clear distinction between what Microsoft does and how platforms like Facebook operate. Microsoft handles data in the background without user awareness (most users don’t), offering settings that are optional but don’t match expectations. If a feature has an off switch, people should expect it to be off. You’re suggesting that because you could send personal info to Microsoft, it’s acceptable for them to passively collect it in the background. That’s not a fact—it’s a misunderstanding. 1) This isn’t just opinion; it’s verified. 2) My comment wasn’t solely about telemetry, but part of a broader concern. I believe Microsoft has been acting unfairly toward consumers, and this situation could lead to stronger protections for users.

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