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Will increasing the clock speed from 3000MHZ to 3200MHz fix my FPS problems in games?

Will increasing the clock speed from 3000MHZ to 3200MHz fix my FPS problems in games?

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ILikeBandsM8
Junior Member
5
08-12-2018, 10:20 PM
#1
I recently switched from a GTX 1060 to a GTX 1080 TI purchased from Amazon. I really enjoy this configuration, but sometimes I notice I’m not achieving the expected performance in certain titles (such as RUST and BF1) and many others. I’ve recently learned about XMP profiles and adjusting the speed to actual MHz. Now I’m curious about overclocking everything, lmao. I’ve already overclocked my 1080TI and realized there’s no benefit in trying to boost my CPU performance further. I’m now focusing on my RAM.

Do you think my system is limited by a CPU bottleneck?
Should I try overclocking my RAM and if so, how should I approach it?

I’ve seen many users with similar builds achieving around 20-30 FPS more in games, while I’m getting the same or less.
I’m not sure if my usage is safe given the varied demands of different games.

My current stats look like this:
CPU: GTX 1080TI, Ryzen 7 2700X, x470
RAM: 16GB at 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance
GPU: 600W PSU

I also found these benchmark results online:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45584204

I’m still a bit new to PC building and trying to learn more. My main focus is on playing Rust, where I consistently get 50-70 FPS even when adjusting settings. I see others with the same configuration outperforming me. Maybe Rust isn’t optimized well for Ryzen?
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ILikeBandsM8
08-12-2018, 10:20 PM #1

I recently switched from a GTX 1060 to a GTX 1080 TI purchased from Amazon. I really enjoy this configuration, but sometimes I notice I’m not achieving the expected performance in certain titles (such as RUST and BF1) and many others. I’ve recently learned about XMP profiles and adjusting the speed to actual MHz. Now I’m curious about overclocking everything, lmao. I’ve already overclocked my 1080TI and realized there’s no benefit in trying to boost my CPU performance further. I’m now focusing on my RAM.

Do you think my system is limited by a CPU bottleneck?
Should I try overclocking my RAM and if so, how should I approach it?

I’ve seen many users with similar builds achieving around 20-30 FPS more in games, while I’m getting the same or less.
I’m not sure if my usage is safe given the varied demands of different games.

My current stats look like this:
CPU: GTX 1080TI, Ryzen 7 2700X, x470
RAM: 16GB at 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance
GPU: 600W PSU

I also found these benchmark results online:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45584204

I’m still a bit new to PC building and trying to learn more. My main focus is on playing Rust, where I consistently get 50-70 FPS even when adjusting settings. I see others with the same configuration outperforming me. Maybe Rust isn’t optimized well for Ryzen?

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dotter51
Member
60
08-14-2018, 09:50 PM
#2
Your CPU is the primary component handling calculations, so a higher CPU clock ensures better performance. It's not just about cores and threads.
Overclocking RAM might help slightly, but only marginally—adjust timing carefully after overclocking to achieve optimal FCLK speed. Zen+ should work with two 3200mhz sticks.
Update your motherboard BIOS and check for stability improvements during overclocking.
Ryzen prefers quicker RAM speeds and tighter timings, as it affects how cores communicate via FCLK. Faster RAM paired with faster FCLK (ideally matching) will reduce intercore latency. Most Ryzen 2000 models can handle 3200mhz CL16-18-18-18-36, but performance beyond that is limited.
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dotter51
08-14-2018, 09:50 PM #2

Your CPU is the primary component handling calculations, so a higher CPU clock ensures better performance. It's not just about cores and threads.
Overclocking RAM might help slightly, but only marginally—adjust timing carefully after overclocking to achieve optimal FCLK speed. Zen+ should work with two 3200mhz sticks.
Update your motherboard BIOS and check for stability improvements during overclocking.
Ryzen prefers quicker RAM speeds and tighter timings, as it affects how cores communicate via FCLK. Faster RAM paired with faster FCLK (ideally matching) will reduce intercore latency. Most Ryzen 2000 models can handle 3200mhz CL16-18-18-18-36, but performance beyond that is limited.

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08-15-2018, 07:04 AM
#3
Your CPU is the primary component handling calculations, so a higher CPU clock will generally lead to better performance. It's not just about the number of cores and threads.

Overclocking your RAM might help slightly, but only marginally. You'll need to adjust the timing settings after overclocking to achieve optimal FCLK speed. Zen+ should perform well with two 3200mhz sticks.

Updating your motherboard's BIOS could improve stability during overclocking.

Ryzen benefits from quicker RAM speeds and reduced RAM timings, as it affects how efficiently cores communicate between CCXs and CCDs using FCLK. A faster RAM paired with a faster FCLK (ideally in a 1:1 ratio) will reduce intercore latency. Most Ryzen 2000 models can handle 3200mhz CL16-18-18-18-36, but they typically cap around 3433mhz. If you aim for 3600MHz sticks with matching FCLK, consider upgrading to a Ryzen 3000 or 5000 series. This offers better CPU IPC compared to your current setup.
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JesperSlagroom
08-15-2018, 07:04 AM #3

Your CPU is the primary component handling calculations, so a higher CPU clock will generally lead to better performance. It's not just about the number of cores and threads.

Overclocking your RAM might help slightly, but only marginally. You'll need to adjust the timing settings after overclocking to achieve optimal FCLK speed. Zen+ should perform well with two 3200mhz sticks.

Updating your motherboard's BIOS could improve stability during overclocking.

Ryzen benefits from quicker RAM speeds and reduced RAM timings, as it affects how efficiently cores communicate between CCXs and CCDs using FCLK. A faster RAM paired with a faster FCLK (ideally in a 1:1 ratio) will reduce intercore latency. Most Ryzen 2000 models can handle 3200mhz CL16-18-18-18-36, but they typically cap around 3433mhz. If you aim for 3600MHz sticks with matching FCLK, consider upgrading to a Ryzen 3000 or 5000 series. This offers better CPU IPC compared to your current setup.

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27Danick
Member
154
08-20-2018, 10:39 PM
#4
What influences the most is memory latency. The best location for the 2700x is a 3200mhz Cas14 memory. This explains why FlareX memory performed exceptionally well when the 2700x debuted. Combined with an SSD game drive and a solid GPU, the 2700x serves as a strong gaming CPU at 1080p resolutions, making it suitable for photo and video editing on a decent desktop.
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27Danick
08-20-2018, 10:39 PM #4

What influences the most is memory latency. The best location for the 2700x is a 3200mhz Cas14 memory. This explains why FlareX memory performed exceptionally well when the 2700x debuted. Combined with an SSD game drive and a solid GPU, the 2700x serves as a strong gaming CPU at 1080p resolutions, making it suitable for photo and video editing on a decent desktop.

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88lucky
Member
67
08-21-2018, 01:28 AM
#5
The top choice for overclocking is a CPU upgrade and increasing memory capacity to 32GB. More RAM enhances performance, making the experience smoother even without speed improvements.
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88lucky
08-21-2018, 01:28 AM #5

The top choice for overclocking is a CPU upgrade and increasing memory capacity to 32GB. More RAM enhances performance, making the experience smoother even without speed improvements.

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Paravichini
Junior Member
34
08-21-2018, 03:17 AM
#6
Just obtain a Ryzen 5000 series CPU; it works with the motherboard after the BIOS update:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...upport-cpu
Switching from any 3000 series CPU to a 5000 is amazing for gaming—it takes you from battling 10-year-old Intel models to surpassing 10th generation. You might consider overclocking the RAM or purchasing RAM with better timings later; it’s likely unnecessary.
A comparison with my Intel 1st generation (15-year architecture) and a 12-year-old CPU X3470 shows a similar performance, matching your overclocked 2700X. This is continuous overclocking:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/38823175
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Paravichini
08-21-2018, 03:17 AM #6

Just obtain a Ryzen 5000 series CPU; it works with the motherboard after the BIOS update:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...upport-cpu
Switching from any 3000 series CPU to a 5000 is amazing for gaming—it takes you from battling 10-year-old Intel models to surpassing 10th generation. You might consider overclocking the RAM or purchasing RAM with better timings later; it’s likely unnecessary.
A comparison with my Intel 1st generation (15-year architecture) and a 12-year-old CPU X3470 shows a similar performance, matching your overclocked 2700X. This is continuous overclocking:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/38823175

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boingyouredead
Junior Member
45
08-22-2018, 10:57 AM
#7
Yes, 3600 and 5600x represent the true IPC contest in comparison to Intel's version, 2600 can't even beat 8700, making the third-gen Ryzen the most affordable upgrade option.
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boingyouredead
08-22-2018, 10:57 AM #7

Yes, 3600 and 5600x represent the true IPC contest in comparison to Intel's version, 2600 can't even beat 8700, making the third-gen Ryzen the most affordable upgrade option.

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AliFun
Junior Member
7
08-22-2018, 12:55 PM
#8
For Intel, no such number; for AMD, yes but a slight boost from 3000 to 3200 Hz.
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AliFun
08-22-2018, 12:55 PM #8

For Intel, no such number; for AMD, yes but a slight boost from 3000 to 3200 Hz.