Which laptop should be selected between MSI GF 65 and MSI GF75?
Which laptop should be selected between MSI GF 65 and MSI GF75?
MSI GF 65 Thin 10UE-272XPL, Intel® Core™ i5-10500H, RAM 8 GB, SSD 512 GB, 15.6 ", RTX 3060 6 GB VRAM, Price 1.1k Euros
MSI GF75 Thin 10UEK, Intel® Core™ i7-10750H,RAM 8 GB, SSD 512 GB, 17.3 ", RTX 3060 MAX-Q 6GB VRAM 1.3k Euros
Hello everyone!
Which option do you recommend for gaming?
My main concern is the graphics card on the second laptop (max-q), which in this case is less powerful compared to others. Also, I’m worried about the CPU differences—i5 versus i7 with boost capability—but after checking more details, their performance seems quite similar.
No, the range for the 3060 is 65-115w. Nvidia no longer uses the Max Q/P naming system, which makes picking the best laptop with a stronger GPU even harder! Don't think about it!? Why Intel, do you mind me asking? I'd be okay if it were an Alderlake-based machine (that would give top performance), but right now AMD CPUs run much cooler. For instance, my I7 9750h laptop...
Hey there,
Both GPUs are the 75w models, so we can ignore that factor. That simplifies things back to the CPU and display dimensions. The CPUs are quite similar. While the I7 can reach up to 5ghz, it's unlikely to hit that unless you're doing very light work. Gaming will likely cap around 4.5ghz across all cores. It's probably the better value in terms of price compared to other options.
I'd choose the G75. A slightly higher CPU boost speed could help achieve a 144hz output, though performance should remain close. Both models offer 1080p displays, with one at 15.6 and the other at 17".
Edit: Just a reminder about gaming laptops in general—they tend to overheat, which can cause thermal throttling. One positive point is that MSI uses quality thermal paste (possibly ThermoGrizzly).
Thanks for the advice, screen size isn't an issue for me since I'll use it with an external monitor as my primary gaming display.
Edit1: Also, do all 3060 laptops have a maximum of 75w? From what I understand, that low limit doesn't fully utilize the card's capabilities. Would you still recommend any of these for gaming, or should I keep searching? My main priorities were an Intel + Nvidia setup with a budget not exceeding 1.5k euros.
Edit2: I plan to purchase a laptop from this site: https://www.1a.lv/c/datortehnika-pr...se...price__asc
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No, the specifications for the 3060 range between 65-115w. Nvidia has stopped using the Max Q/P naming system, which complicates selecting a suitable laptop with a more powerful GPU. Don't think about it!?
Why Intel, please don't interrupt me. I'd be fine if it were an Alder Lake machine (that would be ideal). But currently, AMD CPUs perform better. For instance, my I7 9750h, which is listed as 45w TDP, actually runs around 65-70w during full core boost. Those units are quite powerful. In contrast, AMD CPUs tend to stay near their rated TDP. Their CPU temperatures also seem slightly lower overall.
Let me take a look.
What about these options:
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5 15ACH6H 82JU00A5PB PL, AMD Ryzen™ 5-5600H, for games, 16 GB, 512 GB, 15.6" - 1a.lv
or this for a few extra pounds:
Laptop Lenovo Legion 5-15 82JU00A1PB, AMD Ryzen™ 7-5800H, for games, 16 GB, 512 GB, 15.6" - 1a.lv
Both come with 16GB of RAM.
Edit: The Ryzen 7 5800h is likely one of the top laptop CPUs available until Alder Lake becomes mainstream.
This is just a personal taste, honestly—I've always used Intel CPUs from 3rd generation Celeron up to now. 😄
And only one AMD CPU ever, which was a bad experience and made me doubt them.
Mostly I'm not familiar with the details of their latest releases, so I stick to what I know.
Appreciate you spending time checking them out!
What's the performance gap between G75 and the Lenovo Legion 5-15 (ignoring RAM)? (rough estimate)
Hey,
Sorry for late reply. Hmmm. So, all things being equal (GPU/RAM/SSD etc) and only difference between CPU's - The Ryzen model will be slightly faster. Anywhere from 5-10% game dependent. This is a good illustration though:
INTEL i7 10750H vs RYZEN 7 5800H || RTX 3070 @ 8GB || GAMING LAPTOP || - YouTube
- keeping in mind Ryzen runs cooler too!
I hear ya on the bad experience issue. Have had similar before myself. However, the situation at the moment, is that you have 2 top tier CPu suppliers (arguably for if you factor in Apple/Arm). They don't typically have high failure rates.
Ryzen 5xxx series is a solid choice, if we are excluding Alderlake.
No worries, happy to share some tips.
You might want a quality laptop cooling pad to pair with your device. It helps maintain lower temperatures by lifting the back of the laptop, letting cooler air circulate inside, which keeps the CPU and GPU running cooler.
Yes, your machine is solid. Good luck and enjoy gaming!