When is a Platform to Old?
When is a Platform to Old?
I’d consider a 10900k, which offers a stronger CPU compared to the 11900k (performance dropped in that generation). Adding more RAM would help. Can you confirm handling an i9? You’ll likely need a powerful air cooler or AIO.
examined 11th and 10th generation mainly because of support for Socket M2_1 which only works with 11th Gen Intel Core processors. my ASRock B560M-C actually supports up to the i9-11900KF surprisingly. I think the 16GB is definitely a bottleneck for 4K HDR10+. I estimate a minimum of 32GB, maybe up to 64GB for extra space.
I believe patching the system is a temporary fix rather than rebuilding an AMD Ryzen 3D with 32GB DDR5 and a 7800 series GPU. With only $50 to $100 a month available, it’s a big constraint. I’d really like to buy a 4070 Ti Super for better streaming encoders, but the Nvidia tax makes it hard.
If I want to run games like Final Fantasy 15, Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Lunar the Silver Star Remastered, Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Remastered, and the Kingdom Hearts series in 4K at 60Hz HDR10+, would a band-aid fix or a full upgrade be the better choice, even though the new platform is definitely more expensive? I’m curious to see which comes out next.
The 11th generation boosted IPC while the 10th offered more core benefits. As discussed earlier, additional cores seem useful here. Cooling performance remains acceptable. My build includes a 11700k and 7920X—both work well with a solid air cooler. I overlooked this aspect. The 11th generation provides extra lanes, unlocking an M.2 slot absent in the 10th. For your current setup, running low on RAM is easy to fix. Adding 2x8GB or more should resolve that without major expense. Regarding CPUs, unless pricing is tight, check if the 11700(k/f) offers better value with extra PCIe lanes for M.2. The clock speed impact stays minimal at similar core counts. Otherwise, a 10900(k/f) or comparable model might be worth exploring.
The main goal for the 11th generation would be to install a 2TB Gen3 x4 SSD as a gaming storage solution. My boot drive is the only one I have, which is 512GB, but without a second SSD, a 10th generation model could still make sense. I found a decent 32GB package if I replace my two 8GB drives entirely. Would you consider a standard no-heat-sink RAM option like the Silicon Power DDR4 16GB kit (two 8GB units) at 3200MHz (PC4-25600, CL22, 288-pin)? It would fit nicely with my OEM OLOy 16GB DDR4-3200 CL16 unit. I might add some DIY RGB heat sinks for a personal touch, but a generic 2x8GB kit is definitely a smart way to reach 32GB affordably. For the CPU, I’m thinking Intel Core i9-10900KF or the Core i9-11900KF. If my motherboard is damaged, I’d consider building a custom vertical GPU mount. So here are the three main choices I see: cheapest at $871.96, mid-range at $985.94, and the most expensive option with a powerful motherboard. The AMD 9800X3D ARCTIC models range from around $??? up, paired with a liquid cooler or freezer for extra cooling needs.
If you plan to invest that much, head to AM5 and avoid the 9800x3d. For most of your vtuber work and GPU performance needs, there’ll be minimal gain. You can cut costs significantly with the 9700x while still seeing a clear boost over what you have now. If you’re close to a microcenter, the 9700x, motherboard, and RAM combo is around $430. Your AIO is about $100, and your GPU choice (though color doesn’t always matter) could let you get a 7900xt for that price. You might also save a few hundred by opting for a used 7800xt, which would cost roughly $1100—similar to your other builds. You can upgrade to the 9800x3d whenever you’re ready.
it has a empty m.2 yes. because the 10th gen i5 i currently wont let it run. if u think then i7 variant might be a wiser investment, ill definitely consider that chip. well i that was the poupous of my original question actually. with as much as my current platform needs is it better to just do a am5 build at this point. sounds like it might be my best option so far. gpu is one the biggest hits in cost by far. but found i really should run a 16gb vram gpu. because other programs run in the background like wallpaper engine. so ill work up a build for some parts to do a upgrade build on am5 platform on pc part picker that will work with my current case and 650w psu. preferably one that matches my white case with black interior and hints of pink. because wifi saturates the apartment complex where i live have noticed that wifi 7 will be a must. discovered that via trial and error. so am5 motherboard will have both wifi 7 and 2.5 lan or better. burt ill do a parts list today n post it in here to get opinions.
Here’s a revised version of your notes:
I’m planning to add future upgrades after the current setup. The parts list includes both the overall components and individual items, arranged in different formats for clarity. Building the AM5 platform could take a long time, even with my existing case and power supply. The PSU may work but isn’t fully compatible—it mentions this. Since my system is a System Integrator, I’m uncertain if my SSD and Windows will transfer properly. Therefore, I’d like a 1TB SSD for quick startup and a copy of Windows. Although cheaper OS options exist, I’m using this list as a reference.
The two larger SSDs are intended for future expansion. The single 1TB SSD already doubles what I currently have. The third storage unit is meant for editing streams later. Based on the advice I’ve received, upgrading to a new platform seems like the best path forward rather than patching my existing build.
Thanks for your help in confirming if this list makes sense.
Complete Streaming Setup Amazon Wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/20SI4LHE1AY17
Eventual Full PC Part Picker List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tb9ccx
Minimum PC Part Picker List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64L9Wc
List of Reused Parts: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case, Gigabyte P650G (US) 650W, 80+ Gold Certified ATX PSU, AmazonBasics KU-0833 Wired Keyboard, AmazonBasics MSU0939 Optical Mouse, Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Speakers, SilverStone Wireless Remote, Computer Power/Reset Switch (USB 2.0), ES02-USB, Onkyo TX-NR6100, LG QNED80 Smart TV, Magic Remote, AI-powered 75QNED80URA TV, Alexa-enabled.
Upgrade Ideas:
- GRAUGEAR USB3.2 Gen2 10Gbps extension cables
- USB-C to USB Type-E cable with key screw
- EZDIY Vertical GPU mount with PCIe 4.0 riser and ARGB support
- Black YIHPI344 PCIe slot compatible riser cable
- 115mm/4.52in flexible extension with 90° connector
New Parts to Consider:
- AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-core processor
- Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB CPU cooler
- ASRock X870 Pro RS WiFi ATX motherboard
- Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB DDR5-5200 CL40 RAM
- Crucial T705 1TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 SSD
- PowerColor Hellhound Sakura OC RX 7800 XT 16GB video card
- Windows 11 Home retail version
Future Expansion Options:
- Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB DDR5-5200 CL40 RAM
- Crucial P3 Plus 2TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 SSD
- Crucial P3 4TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 SSD
Let me know if you’d like more details on any item!
A lot of useful tips are shared here, especially about FPS and related topics. Keep in mind the quick responsiveness of newer systems—faster RAM, SSDs, and possibly quicker bus speeds. It might not always save your time, but it can preserve your patience if a computer reacts instantly instead of slowly. No one ever purchased a more capable setup (if everything is balanced) and later wished they had chosen something faster.
It makes sense. You don’t really need an x870 motherboard unless you need Thunderbolt 4—it offers essentially the same features as a B650e, though there might not be any available with Wi-Fi 7. Ethernet isn’t excluded. The board you picked is only marginally more expensive than a B650 model. The memory specs look good, but you should consider DDR5 6000 CL30. CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30 CMH64GX5M2B6000C30W is a solid choice; I’d suggest starting with 32GB if possible, then assess whether you need the full 64GB. The cooler should work fine, though I assumed you were referring to the Arctic Liquid Freezer.