F5F Stay Refreshed Software Operating Systems When configuring W11, be aware of the following considerations.

When configuring W11, be aware of the following considerations.

When configuring W11, be aware of the following considerations.

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jjsoini
Posting Freak
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01-11-2023, 05:50 AM
#1
So yeah... I realize this is a very general question, but hear me out:
Back in the days (I'm showing my age here) installing W without internet connection and/or MS account was the default. There was also very little tinkering involved. Gradually that became less, especially with W10 where internet connection and an MS account was almost enforced. From what I've read, that's even more the case with W11.
Today my kid's new laptop arrived with W11 Home pre-installed. I have NO experience with W11, and really don't have any current knowledge on Windows or hardware. I kinda stopped with all that with my last build... but that was... almost a decade ago!
So here I have this pristine laptop, sitting in a box next to me on the couch. We're eager to set it up for her.
- What are the pointers with a clean W11? (no, I will NOT install Norton
)
- Can I still avoid an MS account? Any reason why I should / shouldn't?
- Though it's a standard laptop, probably with it's own recovery partition or something like that, can I still make our own recovery image? Any reason why I should / shouldn't?
- Are there other things I should be aware of? Settings to adjust? Privacy stuff to take care of?
All this info will undoubtedly be around on the web, but since I don't know what to look for I will probably never find it.
All tips appreciated!
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jjsoini
01-11-2023, 05:50 AM #1

So yeah... I realize this is a very general question, but hear me out:
Back in the days (I'm showing my age here) installing W without internet connection and/or MS account was the default. There was also very little tinkering involved. Gradually that became less, especially with W10 where internet connection and an MS account was almost enforced. From what I've read, that's even more the case with W11.
Today my kid's new laptop arrived with W11 Home pre-installed. I have NO experience with W11, and really don't have any current knowledge on Windows or hardware. I kinda stopped with all that with my last build... but that was... almost a decade ago!
So here I have this pristine laptop, sitting in a box next to me on the couch. We're eager to set it up for her.
- What are the pointers with a clean W11? (no, I will NOT install Norton
)
- Can I still avoid an MS account? Any reason why I should / shouldn't?
- Though it's a standard laptop, probably with it's own recovery partition or something like that, can I still make our own recovery image? Any reason why I should / shouldn't?
- Are there other things I should be aware of? Settings to adjust? Privacy stuff to take care of?
All this info will undoubtedly be around on the web, but since I don't know what to look for I will probably never find it.
All tips appreciated!

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Qemp
Member
137
01-11-2023, 12:24 PM
#2
There are methods to bypass all unnecessary software and data collection. You can employ Tiny11 to craft your own minimal ISO file, which you can then install on a flash drive yourself, or opt for a ready-made stripped version from sources like ReviOS (Revision OS). They remove all telemetry and turn off automatic updates, requiring manual upgrades via a new ISO or by rebuilding the image with Tiny11. They usually eliminate excess bloatware while keeping essential services such as the Microsoft Store functional, allowing you to log in with an MS account if desired, but otherwise maintaining a local, offline setup. This is how I handle my installations. Personally, I prefer ReviOS because it’s fully customized. For gaming PCs, I install Xbox services through Game Pass and disable Windows Update manually—just avoid clicking anything that prompts for updates. Instead, I check periodically for updates to tools like Windows Defender and install them directly when needed. There’s a helpful article on setting up Tiny11, which you can find on its GitHub page. You can also explore creating a Windows 11 image that runs on just 2GB of RAM using Tiny11 Builder—a free tool that generates an image requiring minimal memory.
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Qemp
01-11-2023, 12:24 PM #2

There are methods to bypass all unnecessary software and data collection. You can employ Tiny11 to craft your own minimal ISO file, which you can then install on a flash drive yourself, or opt for a ready-made stripped version from sources like ReviOS (Revision OS). They remove all telemetry and turn off automatic updates, requiring manual upgrades via a new ISO or by rebuilding the image with Tiny11. They usually eliminate excess bloatware while keeping essential services such as the Microsoft Store functional, allowing you to log in with an MS account if desired, but otherwise maintaining a local, offline setup. This is how I handle my installations. Personally, I prefer ReviOS because it’s fully customized. For gaming PCs, I install Xbox services through Game Pass and disable Windows Update manually—just avoid clicking anything that prompts for updates. Instead, I check periodically for updates to tools like Windows Defender and install them directly when needed. There’s a helpful article on setting up Tiny11, which you can find on its GitHub page. You can also explore creating a Windows 11 image that runs on just 2GB of RAM using Tiny11 Builder—a free tool that generates an image requiring minimal memory.

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Infallity
Senior Member
379
01-16-2023, 04:15 AM
#3
It seems the discussion is focused on building a new rig rather than using the existing laptop with pre-installed Windows 11.
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Infallity
01-16-2023, 04:15 AM #3

It seems the discussion is focused on building a new rig rather than using the existing laptop with pre-installed Windows 11.

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OXmarcelOX
Junior Member
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01-16-2023, 06:14 AM
#4
It's suitable for anyone using any hardware. I never rely on the pre-installed operating system on my laptops; I always remove it and perform a clean installation to ensure it contains only the essentials I require, excluding unnecessary software and tracking features.
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OXmarcelOX
01-16-2023, 06:14 AM #4

It's suitable for anyone using any hardware. I never rely on the pre-installed operating system on my laptops; I always remove it and perform a clean installation to ensure it contains only the essentials I require, excluding unnecessary software and tracking features.

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Diba070
Member
75
01-16-2023, 10:36 AM
#5
I need to check if a replacement key is required or if the existing OEM key can be utilized for the pre-installed model.
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Diba070
01-16-2023, 10:36 AM #5

I need to check if a replacement key is required or if the existing OEM key can be utilized for the pre-installed model.

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Jarzzermann
Posting Freak
788
01-19-2023, 05:35 AM
#6
For the stated user, this would be problematic for me.
With Tiny11 - "and disable Windows updates"
Sorry, but I can't buy into that for the vast majority of users.
And some of the other things that Tiny11 strips out are things that people actually use.
There's nothing really disastrous in a regular WIn 10/11 install.
Turn off location tracking, and whatever advertising linking is in the initial account setup.
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Jarzzermann
01-19-2023, 05:35 AM #6

For the stated user, this would be problematic for me.
With Tiny11 - "and disable Windows updates"
Sorry, but I can't buy into that for the vast majority of users.
And some of the other things that Tiny11 strips out are things that people actually use.
There's nothing really disastrous in a regular WIn 10/11 install.
Turn off location tracking, and whatever advertising linking is in the initial account setup.

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MekB7
Junior Member
12
01-20-2023, 11:58 AM
#7
You have the option to create your own "recovery" image without using any recovery partition on the laptop at this moment. Alternatively, you might opt for a fresh Windows 11 installation. This would erase the drive and leave only Windows available, with no recovery partition included. None of the impressive software tools the manufacturer offers should have provided you with this feature. The latter is merely a suggestion, not a requirement.
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MekB7
01-20-2023, 11:58 AM #7

You have the option to create your own "recovery" image without using any recovery partition on the laptop at this moment. Alternatively, you might opt for a fresh Windows 11 installation. This would erase the drive and leave only Windows available, with no recovery partition included. None of the impressive software tools the manufacturer offers should have provided you with this feature. The latter is merely a suggestion, not a requirement.

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Templer1887
Member
158
01-20-2023, 12:45 PM
#8
The previous two laptops came with no bloatware at all. Surface Go 3 and a Lenovo model were included. Base Windows 10 and 11 are compatible.
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Templer1887
01-20-2023, 12:45 PM #8

The previous two laptops came with no bloatware at all. Surface Go 3 and a Lenovo model were included. Base Windows 10 and 11 are compatible.

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BatBerry
Member
61
01-20-2023, 02:12 PM
#9
I was lucky, actually—I got my Lenovo Ideapad 3 at Micro Center not too long ago. It came preloaded with all the cool features. The thing was sucking back 6GB of RAM when it was idle on the desktop, which wasn’t what I expected from its boxed setup.
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BatBerry
01-20-2023, 02:12 PM #9

I was lucky, actually—I got my Lenovo Ideapad 3 at Micro Center not too long ago. It came preloaded with all the cool features. The thing was sucking back 6GB of RAM when it was idle on the desktop, which wasn’t what I expected from its boxed setup.

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DriveIn
Senior Member
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01-20-2023, 09:04 PM
#10
Consider checking out Win 11 S Mode.
They occasionally appear this way.
It may be offered as a free Win 11 Home version through the MS Store.
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DriveIn
01-20-2023, 09:04 PM #10

Consider checking out Win 11 S Mode.
They occasionally appear this way.
It may be offered as a free Win 11 Home version through the MS Store.

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