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03-11-2016, 09:37 AM
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It could be quite frustrating for laptop makers to focus on service doors for RAM, drives, and removable batteries again. I find it hard to justify buying a laptop only to have to risk damaging it in order to inspect or replace components later. I don’t use laptops very often. When I do, I usually switch to a desktop setup, even bringing video cables along so I can connect to the TV at work. My laptop is used about once or twice a year, mainly for checking in at the office and handling pending tasks before returning it. I try to keep it in good shape by connecting it regularly, allowing it to charge, updating software, and running it occasionally.

I’ve experimented with keeping the battery plugged in or using other methods, but it’s always disappointing when the battery fails. It feels like a hassle to open the laptop just to find the battery is dead, especially since OEM batteries can be worth more than half the machine by then. I worry about whether I’m getting a cheap knockoff or if the genuine product hasn’t been sitting unused.

I’m starting to question whether it’s worth investing in this kind of service for future laptops. My laptop does need a new battery soon, and I buy replacements every 8 to 10 years, as long as they meet my basic needs. My phone, an S21, has a program called "Dex" that shows some potential for a use case, but it hasn’t gained much traction yet. I hope next year’s device will have better support and industry backing.
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bakedpotatoboy
03-11-2016, 09:37 AM #1

It could be quite frustrating for laptop makers to focus on service doors for RAM, drives, and removable batteries again. I find it hard to justify buying a laptop only to have to risk damaging it in order to inspect or replace components later. I don’t use laptops very often. When I do, I usually switch to a desktop setup, even bringing video cables along so I can connect to the TV at work. My laptop is used about once or twice a year, mainly for checking in at the office and handling pending tasks before returning it. I try to keep it in good shape by connecting it regularly, allowing it to charge, updating software, and running it occasionally.

I’ve experimented with keeping the battery plugged in or using other methods, but it’s always disappointing when the battery fails. It feels like a hassle to open the laptop just to find the battery is dead, especially since OEM batteries can be worth more than half the machine by then. I worry about whether I’m getting a cheap knockoff or if the genuine product hasn’t been sitting unused.

I’m starting to question whether it’s worth investing in this kind of service for future laptops. My laptop does need a new battery soon, and I buy replacements every 8 to 10 years, as long as they meet my basic needs. My phone, an S21, has a program called "Dex" that shows some potential for a use case, but it hasn’t gained much traction yet. I hope next year’s device will have better support and industry backing.

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nightfall8000
Member
141
03-12-2016, 04:12 AM
#2
Accessibility remains possible on some devices, such as my Dell Precision mobile workstation, though at an expense. Consumer gadgets aren’t built for this, and the extra price would likely deter most buyers. I value your idea, though. MrsGeek’s laptop would benefit greatly from a bigger SSD, but taking it apart is risky.
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nightfall8000
03-12-2016, 04:12 AM #2

Accessibility remains possible on some devices, such as my Dell Precision mobile workstation, though at an expense. Consumer gadgets aren’t built for this, and the extra price would likely deter most buyers. I value your idea, though. MrsGeek’s laptop would benefit greatly from a bigger SSD, but taking it apart is risky.

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ErzaLaRousse
Junior Member
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03-13-2016, 11:01 PM
#3
It's accurate that many premium business workstations still retain those features, but I struggle to justify the expense unless I'm using it as my primary machine. Considering other troubleshooting, part replacement, and upgrade needs, I still favor a traditional tower PC. Even NUC models sit in a gray zone—they're essentially screenless laptops—and I'd rather avoid dealing with them. It would be great if they could design them with a removable bottom using 4-6 screws for easy access. Now that said, one of the laptops I examined required dismantling—removing the screen and keyboard—and even then, the expansion slots were on the keyboard side, which really frustrated me.

I've had experience with Dell products before. I bought this model because it offered serviceable RAM slots (unlike soldered ones) and space for a 2.5" and M.2 SSD. I obtained it from MicroCenter under a good price, around $400, and then swapped out the HDD and added RAM. The identical model with factory components was about $200 more, and I spent roughly $60 on the upgrade. Of course, the plastic has become increasingly brittle over time.
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ErzaLaRousse
03-13-2016, 11:01 PM #3

It's accurate that many premium business workstations still retain those features, but I struggle to justify the expense unless I'm using it as my primary machine. Considering other troubleshooting, part replacement, and upgrade needs, I still favor a traditional tower PC. Even NUC models sit in a gray zone—they're essentially screenless laptops—and I'd rather avoid dealing with them. It would be great if they could design them with a removable bottom using 4-6 screws for easy access. Now that said, one of the laptops I examined required dismantling—removing the screen and keyboard—and even then, the expansion slots were on the keyboard side, which really frustrated me.

I've had experience with Dell products before. I bought this model because it offered serviceable RAM slots (unlike soldered ones) and space for a 2.5" and M.2 SSD. I obtained it from MicroCenter under a good price, around $400, and then swapped out the HDD and added RAM. The identical model with factory components was about $200 more, and I spent roughly $60 on the upgrade. Of course, the plastic has become increasingly brittle over time.

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DraGonX541
Member
189
03-14-2016, 07:12 PM
#4
Several Acer and Asus gaming laptops feature a completely detachable base. Many screws and levers can be easily removed. I usually look at Notebookcheck.net (the English version) since they frequently conduct disassemblies as part of their reviews. This seems to be the top choice for laptop evaluations. There isn’t anyone else that is both trustworthy and as detailed as they are.
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DraGonX541
03-14-2016, 07:12 PM #4

Several Acer and Asus gaming laptops feature a completely detachable base. Many screws and levers can be easily removed. I usually look at Notebookcheck.net (the English version) since they frequently conduct disassemblies as part of their reviews. This seems to be the top choice for laptop evaluations. There isn’t anyone else that is both trustworthy and as detailed as they are.

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ArisV
Member
129
03-16-2016, 07:51 PM
#5
Thank you for your feedback. Given my infrequent updates and limited requirements, I mainly prefer a large display for clarity and a substantial storage capacity with a high number of keys since we often work with numerous numerical sequences. Over the past five years, my recent acquisitions have been Dell Inspiron or similar models. These generally perform well for my needs, while the other options were affordable refurbished choices I was confident would function properly. Battery concerns aside.

I recently bought a refurbished Acer Aspire driven by price considerations. The display was excellent, but that was the main point. I opted to buy it with the desired RAM and an SSD at the time. I don’t anticipate needing to use this laptop again, so I can’t assess its usability. It was intended for my mother, and she hasn’t opened it since purchase.

My previous machine before the Dell was a Toshiba Satellite. This was somewhat unusual because I entered the store seeking an i3 processor housed in a solid metal chassis, which was quite durable. The store claimed they had a few available but couldn’t locate them. In a way, it was fortunate that one was essentially non-functional. Eventually, they upgraded to a top-of-the-line i5 model with a unique cellular wireless feature—something that never materialized. The case was solid, offering full access to all functions, good audio output, and a comfortable keyboard. As a second-generation i5, it was somewhat sluggish for my purposes. I eventually handed it over to a friend who still uses it mainly for email checks.

If I had to choose a brand I’d rather not own, it would be HP. There are several reasons for that preference. I’d prefer spending more on another brand if it were within a budget just to avoid that path.
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ArisV
03-16-2016, 07:51 PM #5

Thank you for your feedback. Given my infrequent updates and limited requirements, I mainly prefer a large display for clarity and a substantial storage capacity with a high number of keys since we often work with numerous numerical sequences. Over the past five years, my recent acquisitions have been Dell Inspiron or similar models. These generally perform well for my needs, while the other options were affordable refurbished choices I was confident would function properly. Battery concerns aside.

I recently bought a refurbished Acer Aspire driven by price considerations. The display was excellent, but that was the main point. I opted to buy it with the desired RAM and an SSD at the time. I don’t anticipate needing to use this laptop again, so I can’t assess its usability. It was intended for my mother, and she hasn’t opened it since purchase.

My previous machine before the Dell was a Toshiba Satellite. This was somewhat unusual because I entered the store seeking an i3 processor housed in a solid metal chassis, which was quite durable. The store claimed they had a few available but couldn’t locate them. In a way, it was fortunate that one was essentially non-functional. Eventually, they upgraded to a top-of-the-line i5 model with a unique cellular wireless feature—something that never materialized. The case was solid, offering full access to all functions, good audio output, and a comfortable keyboard. As a second-generation i5, it was somewhat sluggish for my purposes. I eventually handed it over to a friend who still uses it mainly for email checks.

If I had to choose a brand I’d rather not own, it would be HP. There are several reasons for that preference. I’d prefer spending more on another brand if it were within a budget just to avoid that path.

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DJStampy0305
Member
125
03-16-2016, 09:03 PM
#6
For those looking for an affordable laptop suitable for everyday tasks, a refurbished Dell Latitude is a solid choice. It’s slim, lightweight, and built to last with plenty of upgrade options. I bought it for 400CAD, which included an 8th Gen i5 processor, 16GB RAM in dual channels, a 256GB NVMe SSD, and Windows 10 Pro. The battery is brand new, and the touch screen works perfectly—something I actually use. The bottom panel is easy to remove, exposing the NVMe slot, RAM slots, and cooling system. It’s straightforward to service and upgrade.

I also upgraded it with Corsair Vengeance RAM (my Asus gaming laptop failed, so I went for new RAM), a 1TB NVMe SSD, and switched to Windows 11 Pro. The device runs smoothly, the keyboard is responsive, and the screen offers excellent IPS technology even by current standards. Battery life lasts about 7 to 8 hours in office mode, and it supports USB-C charging.

It’s a good value for around 400 CAD, though it can feel like a gamble. If you’re unsure, return it and get another one. Amazon’s return policy is decent, even if the service isn’t perfect.
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DJStampy0305
03-16-2016, 09:03 PM #6

For those looking for an affordable laptop suitable for everyday tasks, a refurbished Dell Latitude is a solid choice. It’s slim, lightweight, and built to last with plenty of upgrade options. I bought it for 400CAD, which included an 8th Gen i5 processor, 16GB RAM in dual channels, a 256GB NVMe SSD, and Windows 10 Pro. The battery is brand new, and the touch screen works perfectly—something I actually use. The bottom panel is easy to remove, exposing the NVMe slot, RAM slots, and cooling system. It’s straightforward to service and upgrade.

I also upgraded it with Corsair Vengeance RAM (my Asus gaming laptop failed, so I went for new RAM), a 1TB NVMe SSD, and switched to Windows 11 Pro. The device runs smoothly, the keyboard is responsive, and the screen offers excellent IPS technology even by current standards. Battery life lasts about 7 to 8 hours in office mode, and it supports USB-C charging.

It’s a good value for around 400 CAD, though it can feel like a gamble. If you’re unsure, return it and get another one. Amazon’s return policy is decent, even if the service isn’t perfect.

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mini007xD
Junior Member
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03-18-2016, 03:29 AM
#7
I truly think laptop makers either charge outrageously high prices for upgrades or refuse to offer them altogether. They prefer to replace you with a fresh device.
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mini007xD
03-18-2016, 03:29 AM #7

I truly think laptop makers either charge outrageously high prices for upgrades or refuse to offer them altogether. They prefer to replace you with a fresh device.

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palesul
Member
79
03-18-2016, 05:26 AM
#8
Yup, I have had very good experiences with Dell refurbs over the past few years. It is a shoe in gift for one of the humans in my life to need one every year or so and it sure isn't going to be a "nice" one again.
The Inspiron I am talking about is an i5 8250U, I doubled the RAM from 8 to 16GB, and replaced the 1TB HDD to a 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5". I have not utilized the M.2 slot. It works fine, does everything I want of it except having to dig in after this darned battery. If I do, which I am not sure of, I might go ahead and stick a cheap P3 Plus M.2 in there. I picked up a slew of those when they were sub $30 on Amazon.
@PEnns
there is no question that they would rather me turn this to e waste than bother going inside. I would go totally off subject if I were to discuss the plague that is going to be in Oct '25....
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palesul
03-18-2016, 05:26 AM #8

Yup, I have had very good experiences with Dell refurbs over the past few years. It is a shoe in gift for one of the humans in my life to need one every year or so and it sure isn't going to be a "nice" one again.
The Inspiron I am talking about is an i5 8250U, I doubled the RAM from 8 to 16GB, and replaced the 1TB HDD to a 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5". I have not utilized the M.2 slot. It works fine, does everything I want of it except having to dig in after this darned battery. If I do, which I am not sure of, I might go ahead and stick a cheap P3 Plus M.2 in there. I picked up a slew of those when they were sub $30 on Amazon.
@PEnns
there is no question that they would rather me turn this to e waste than bother going inside. I would go totally off subject if I were to discuss the plague that is going to be in Oct '25....

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JKP555
Junior Member
39
03-18-2016, 06:09 AM
#9
This device runs an i5 8350U with a slightly improved clock speed. As a business computer, it delivers excellent performance with magnesium construction. If someone breaks into the house, it could still be useful as a tool and remain functional. It also handles FF XIV on low settings adequately for social events, crafting, and gathering. Regarding the battery, removing it is straightforward—just two screws and one connector. My model came with a new battery, but I replaced it to ensure proper cable routing. Refurbs are fine, though sometimes they need a bit of care upon arrival.
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JKP555
03-18-2016, 06:09 AM #9

This device runs an i5 8350U with a slightly improved clock speed. As a business computer, it delivers excellent performance with magnesium construction. If someone breaks into the house, it could still be useful as a tool and remain functional. It also handles FF XIV on low settings adequately for social events, crafting, and gathering. Regarding the battery, removing it is straightforward—just two screws and one connector. My model came with a new battery, but I replaced it to ensure proper cable routing. Refurbs are fine, though sometimes they need a bit of care upon arrival.