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What other methods exist to verify a CPU issue without swapping it out?

What other methods exist to verify a CPU issue without swapping it out?

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Danjobro
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08-29-2016, 09:22 PM
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My computer has been shutting down unpredictably for several months after upgrading the CPU. Initially, I experienced a stable green screen, but now it stays black for a few seconds before restarting. I've replaced the SSD, motherboard, and power supply unit. There are no spare parts available, and I'm hesitant to keep purchasing components if they won't resolve the issue. These crashes occur without warning, sometimes multiple times a day or month. The only consistent crash happens during the 24-hour Burnintest test. I've run various stress tests, but only this one reproduces the problem, crashing within 3-4 minutes. Memtest has been used extensively with RAM, yet no errors were detected. Yesterday, running it with a single RAM stick also caused a crash. I repeated the test to check for hardware faults, but still found nothing. I'm currently using Windows 10, but the same issue appears with Linux Mint. I'm uncertain whether Linux can provide more details about these crashes, and I haven't found much information online. The BIOS settings remain mostly unchanged, with no overclocking and XMP not enabled manually. I've taken the machine to several shops, but no one identified the cause. Is there a method to diagnose this fully without replacing everything? I have some HWInfo logs from when the PC crashed, which I'm unsure if they contain useful data. I can share them with you if you'd like.
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Danjobro
08-29-2016, 09:22 PM #1

My computer has been shutting down unpredictably for several months after upgrading the CPU. Initially, I experienced a stable green screen, but now it stays black for a few seconds before restarting. I've replaced the SSD, motherboard, and power supply unit. There are no spare parts available, and I'm hesitant to keep purchasing components if they won't resolve the issue. These crashes occur without warning, sometimes multiple times a day or month. The only consistent crash happens during the 24-hour Burnintest test. I've run various stress tests, but only this one reproduces the problem, crashing within 3-4 minutes. Memtest has been used extensively with RAM, yet no errors were detected. Yesterday, running it with a single RAM stick also caused a crash. I repeated the test to check for hardware faults, but still found nothing. I'm currently using Windows 10, but the same issue appears with Linux Mint. I'm uncertain whether Linux can provide more details about these crashes, and I haven't found much information online. The BIOS settings remain mostly unchanged, with no overclocking and XMP not enabled manually. I've taken the machine to several shops, but no one identified the cause. Is there a method to diagnose this fully without replacing everything? I have some HWInfo logs from when the PC crashed, which I'm unsure if they contain useful data. I can share them with you if you'd like.

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IamPiggy
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08-30-2016, 04:17 AM
#2
Temperatures and voltages ?
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IamPiggy
08-30-2016, 04:17 AM #2

Temperatures and voltages ?

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moffy
Member
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08-30-2016, 06:24 AM
#3
Temperatures are acceptable, they rarely exceed 80-85 Celsius except during program execution like Cinebench. Regarding voltages, could you clarify which ones you're referring to? I can share more details if you provide the HWinfo screenshots.
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moffy
08-30-2016, 06:24 AM #3

Temperatures are acceptable, they rarely exceed 80-85 Celsius except during program execution like Cinebench. Regarding voltages, could you clarify which ones you're referring to? I can share more details if you provide the HWinfo screenshots.

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iDoNotEvenLift
Posting Freak
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09-16-2016, 03:30 AM
#4
You didn't mention anything about a video card! I assume you don’t have another one.
However, a repair shop should carry several. They should also possess an AM4 CPU that allows testing your system, although perhaps they only have certain models.
If a crash happens in just 3-4 minutes using the test mentioned, they could likely install the card and run the test within about 10 minutes.
Having an AM4 CPU makes it straightforward, and swapping and testing shouldn’t take much time.
(If they’re demanding an unreasonable price, it’s a different matter)
I’m stating this because I believe you don’t have any sources to obtain components from.
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iDoNotEvenLift
09-16-2016, 03:30 AM #4

You didn't mention anything about a video card! I assume you don’t have another one.
However, a repair shop should carry several. They should also possess an AM4 CPU that allows testing your system, although perhaps they only have certain models.
If a crash happens in just 3-4 minutes using the test mentioned, they could likely install the card and run the test within about 10 minutes.
Having an AM4 CPU makes it straightforward, and swapping and testing shouldn’t take much time.
(If they’re demanding an unreasonable price, it’s a different matter)
I’m stating this because I believe you don’t have any sources to obtain components from.

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Rex4314
Junior Member
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09-16-2016, 07:57 AM
#5
Did you retain the previous CPU after the upgrade? If yes, ensure it fits back into the motherboard.
If the system didn’t fail with the old CPU, but it fails again when using it, likely a pin was damaged in the socket.
Was the Ryzen 5 5500 a new part placed in a sealed AMD case, or is it second-hand and possibly questionable?
If second-hand, was the CPU in an authentic AMD plastic clamshell or protected by bubble wrap/non-ESD packaging? A poorly handled CPU might have suffered from static discharge.
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Rex4314
09-16-2016, 07:57 AM #5

Did you retain the previous CPU after the upgrade? If yes, ensure it fits back into the motherboard.
If the system didn’t fail with the old CPU, but it fails again when using it, likely a pin was damaged in the socket.
Was the Ryzen 5 5500 a new part placed in a sealed AMD case, or is it second-hand and possibly questionable?
If second-hand, was the CPU in an authentic AMD plastic clamshell or protected by bubble wrap/non-ESD packaging? A poorly handled CPU might have suffered from static discharge.

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sarahdem59
Member
173
09-16-2016, 09:07 AM
#6
I don't have any spare parts other than the ones I've already replaced, honestly. And to be honest, I'm not sure what they're actually doing. I recommended swapping components, but I have no idea if that was done. I kept mentioning the program I used to recreate the crash. I've already tested the system with one RAM stick and it crashed. Today I'll try it with the other one, and if it also crashes, I think it's probably not the RAM.
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sarahdem59
09-16-2016, 09:07 AM #6

I don't have any spare parts other than the ones I've already replaced, honestly. And to be honest, I'm not sure what they're actually doing. I recommended swapping components, but I have no idea if that was done. I kept mentioning the program I used to recreate the crash. I've already tested the system with one RAM stick and it crashed. Today I'll try it with the other one, and if it also crashes, I think it's probably not the RAM.

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rapha_hell
Member
86
09-22-2016, 10:11 AM
#7
The CPU usually doesn't fail. It's often the motherboard that's the issue. You might need to check it somehow. Maybe a friend, a neighbor, or my last resort, a PC repair shop.
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rapha_hell
09-22-2016, 10:11 AM #7

The CPU usually doesn't fail. It's often the motherboard that's the issue. You might need to check it somehow. Maybe a friend, a neighbor, or my last resort, a PC repair shop.

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BobbyAlexlex
Junior Member
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09-24-2016, 12:45 PM
#8
It began after upgrading the CPU, so it's possible the issue was present from the start. Replacing the motherboard doesn't seem to resolve the problem, especially since both RAM sticks failed in the same slot near the cooler. I'm still testing them on another slot, but given the changes made, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what could be causing it.
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BobbyAlexlex
09-24-2016, 12:45 PM #8

It began after upgrading the CPU, so it's possible the issue was present from the start. Replacing the motherboard doesn't seem to resolve the problem, especially since both RAM sticks failed in the same slot near the cooler. I'm still testing them on another slot, but given the changes made, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what could be causing it.

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pparizotti
Junior Member
8
09-24-2016, 01:11 PM
#9
Are you familiar with your user guide to ensure the correct RAM slots for various setups?
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pparizotti
09-24-2016, 01:11 PM #9

Are you familiar with your user guide to ensure the correct RAM slots for various setups?

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fukboi__
Member
68
10-10-2016, 01:38 AM
#10
Yes, they consistently occupied their designated positions.
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fukboi__
10-10-2016, 01:38 AM #10

Yes, they consistently occupied their designated positions.

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