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What is the most cost-effective high-performance CPU expected soon?

What is the most cost-effective high-performance CPU expected soon?

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Sheikrik
Senior Member
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11-25-2022, 09:33 AM
#1
I typically construct my own personal workstation. I spend a lot using Adobe applications such as Photoshop, Premiere, Lightroom, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, etc... Sometimes I handle extremely large Photoshop files with numerous layers and run many programs simultaneously.
I aim to stay ahead by overbuilding and maintaining the system for an extended period—usually around 4 to 5 years. In 2012, I installed an i7-3930K with 16GB RAM, which I used for about a decade. At that time, there were faster multi-threaded processors, but for a long time this model offered better single-thread performance compared to many alternatives. Photoshop appears to work more efficiently on high single-thread speed than on very large multithreaded tasks.
In 2022, I upgraded to a Ryzen 5900X, an ASRock X570 Taishi Razer, an RTX 3070, 64GB RAM, 1TB M.2, plus an additional 216TB M.2 for swap and temporary files.
I plan to build a new computer by the end of this year or early next year. I’m currently evaluating the Ryzen 9950X and ASRock X670E Taichi with other components to decide what’s needed.
I haven’t been following rumors about upcoming CPU releases. I’m curious if any new technology will significantly boost performance without being prohibitively expensive.
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Sheikrik
11-25-2022, 09:33 AM #1

I typically construct my own personal workstation. I spend a lot using Adobe applications such as Photoshop, Premiere, Lightroom, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, etc... Sometimes I handle extremely large Photoshop files with numerous layers and run many programs simultaneously.
I aim to stay ahead by overbuilding and maintaining the system for an extended period—usually around 4 to 5 years. In 2012, I installed an i7-3930K with 16GB RAM, which I used for about a decade. At that time, there were faster multi-threaded processors, but for a long time this model offered better single-thread performance compared to many alternatives. Photoshop appears to work more efficiently on high single-thread speed than on very large multithreaded tasks.
In 2022, I upgraded to a Ryzen 5900X, an ASRock X570 Taishi Razer, an RTX 3070, 64GB RAM, 1TB M.2, plus an additional 216TB M.2 for swap and temporary files.
I plan to build a new computer by the end of this year or early next year. I’m currently evaluating the Ryzen 9950X and ASRock X670E Taichi with other components to decide what’s needed.
I haven’t been following rumors about upcoming CPU releases. I’m curious if any new technology will significantly boost performance without being prohibitively expensive.

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CookieGamer13
Junior Member
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11-25-2022, 04:13 PM
#2
I would steer clear of ASRock motherboards because of BIOS problems and compatibility issues with their 9000 series chips, opting instead for MSI or Gigabyte options. If maximizing productivity is your main goal, the X3D model is worth considering—especially if you're targeting a 9950X. Pair it with an X870 or B850 chipset board that features a robust RM design.

When selecting RAM, match it to your motherboard and CPU choices. Seek dual-channel DDR5 kits at 6000MHz to 6600MHz with AMD E.X.P.O technology to ensure optimal performance and avoid compatibility problems.

You might consider an X670 or B650 chipset board, but you'll need to flash the BIOS before installing a 9000 series processor.

One point for clarity: you mentioned a budget-friendly processor, but the 9950X is not inexpensive compared to alternatives that match its capabilities. If cost matters, do you have a specific budget in mind?

The 9950X3D isn’t a low-cost option either; it’s significantly pricier than most competitors.
[Link](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pk...x3...0000719wof) highlights its high performance but places it well above current market options. If you value time and reliability, you’ll likely enjoy a smoother experience and keep your system running strong for years.
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CookieGamer13
11-25-2022, 04:13 PM #2

I would steer clear of ASRock motherboards because of BIOS problems and compatibility issues with their 9000 series chips, opting instead for MSI or Gigabyte options. If maximizing productivity is your main goal, the X3D model is worth considering—especially if you're targeting a 9950X. Pair it with an X870 or B850 chipset board that features a robust RM design.

When selecting RAM, match it to your motherboard and CPU choices. Seek dual-channel DDR5 kits at 6000MHz to 6600MHz with AMD E.X.P.O technology to ensure optimal performance and avoid compatibility problems.

You might consider an X670 or B650 chipset board, but you'll need to flash the BIOS before installing a 9000 series processor.

One point for clarity: you mentioned a budget-friendly processor, but the 9950X is not inexpensive compared to alternatives that match its capabilities. If cost matters, do you have a specific budget in mind?

The 9950X3D isn’t a low-cost option either; it’s significantly pricier than most competitors.
[Link](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pk...x3...0000719wof) highlights its high performance but places it well above current market options. If you value time and reliability, you’ll likely enjoy a smoother experience and keep your system running strong for years.

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Solstroiteli
Junior Member
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11-25-2022, 11:16 PM
#3
I own ASRock mobos in roughly half of the computers in my office. There are a few Asus and possibly a Gigabyte models. I wasn’t familiar with ASRock about five years ago, and the first one I tried met all my requirements and performed well, which has made me consider using them more often. So far, I haven’t encountered any issues, though I haven’t tested the 9000 series models.
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Solstroiteli
11-25-2022, 11:16 PM #3

I own ASRock mobos in roughly half of the computers in my office. There are a few Asus and possibly a Gigabyte models. I wasn’t familiar with ASRock about five years ago, and the first one I tried met all my requirements and performed well, which has made me consider using them more often. So far, I haven’t encountered any issues, though I haven’t tested the 9000 series models.

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BiaRafa
Junior Member
47
12-07-2022, 07:23 PM
#4
I asked ChatGPT about the cost difference between an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X and an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D. If I bought the Ryzen 9 9950X and replaced it with a dedicated GPU using the saved money, would the separate CPU and GPU outperform the integrated CPU?
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BiaRafa
12-07-2022, 07:23 PM #4

I asked ChatGPT about the cost difference between an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X and an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D. If I bought the Ryzen 9 9950X and replaced it with a dedicated GPU using the saved money, would the separate CPU and GPU outperform the integrated CPU?

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12-16-2022, 07:33 AM
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ZEN 6 will upgrade from 8core to 12core ccx, possibly offering more cores for the same price. Intel plans to launch CPUs using their 18A node by year-end, while high-end desktops might see a release at the start of next year. It's uncertain whether these changes will significantly impact your needs, especially outside heavy multicore tasks. For detailed insights on Photoshop and other software, check out the site's recent updates beyond this article.
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thedoggamer987
12-16-2022, 07:33 AM #5

ZEN 6 will upgrade from 8core to 12core ccx, possibly offering more cores for the same price. Intel plans to launch CPUs using their 18A node by year-end, while high-end desktops might see a release at the start of next year. It's uncertain whether these changes will significantly impact your needs, especially outside heavy multicore tasks. For detailed insights on Photoshop and other software, check out the site's recent updates beyond this article.

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SizlyBacon_
Junior Member
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12-18-2022, 08:47 PM
#6
X3D is not video, it's 3-Dimensional cache memory placed above the CPU. For gaming, this allows more of the game engine's code to reside inside the CPU, which reduces memory accesses. This benefits some applications, though results vary, as shown by the pugetbench data.
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SizlyBacon_
12-18-2022, 08:47 PM #6

X3D is not video, it's 3-Dimensional cache memory placed above the CPU. For gaming, this allows more of the game engine's code to reside inside the CPU, which reduces memory accesses. This benefits some applications, though results vary, as shown by the pugetbench data.

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DerpyLOL
Member
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12-18-2022, 10:00 PM
#7
Are there any existing chipset options that offer quad channel RAM without needing Threadripper or Epic CPUs?
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DerpyLOL
12-18-2022, 10:00 PM #7

Are there any existing chipset options that offer quad channel RAM without needing Threadripper or Epic CPUs?

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01-09-2023, 08:18 PM
#8
If you avoid playing games entirely, there would likely be no compelling need to upgrade from 9950X to 9950X3D.
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xXStrikeBackXx
01-09-2023, 08:18 PM #8

If you avoid playing games entirely, there would likely be no compelling need to upgrade from 9950X to 9950X3D.

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lenathomas1125
Junior Member
16
01-11-2023, 04:51 AM
#9
Here is your build list rewritten with varied phrasing while keeping the same structure and details:

My current PC build on Newegg includes the following components:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 16-Core 4.3 GHz - Socket AM5 170W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100001277WOF ($539.99)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI DDR5 AM5 AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboards, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G Network Solution. ($479.99)
Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model F5-6000J2636H32GX2-TZ5NR ($349.99)
Graphics Cards: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC 12G Graphics Card, 2x WINDFORCE Fans, 12GB 192-bit GDDR6X, GV-N4070WF2OC-12GD Video Card ($699.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case ($132.99)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W ATX 3.1 Standard Power Supply; 80 Plus Gold Efficiency; Smart Zero Fan; Native 450W PCIe 5.1 Connector; PS-TPT-0850FNFAGU-3 ($131.95)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Blue SN580 M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS250G3B0E ($48.59)
Storage: SAMSUNG 990 PRO 2TB SSD, PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280, Seq. Read Speeds Up-to 7,450MB/s for High End Computing, Gaming, and Heavy Duty Workstations (MZ-V9P2T0B/AM) Non-Heatsink ($169.99)
Overall cost comes to approximately $2,540.49
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lenathomas1125
01-11-2023, 04:51 AM #9

Here is your build list rewritten with varied phrasing while keeping the same structure and details:

My current PC build on Newegg includes the following components:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 16-Core 4.3 GHz - Socket AM5 170W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100001277WOF ($539.99)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI DDR5 AM5 AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboards, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G Network Solution. ($479.99)
Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model F5-6000J2636H32GX2-TZ5NR ($349.99)
Graphics Cards: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC 12G Graphics Card, 2x WINDFORCE Fans, 12GB 192-bit GDDR6X, GV-N4070WF2OC-12GD Video Card ($699.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case ($132.99)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W ATX 3.1 Standard Power Supply; 80 Plus Gold Efficiency; Smart Zero Fan; Native 450W PCIe 5.1 Connector; PS-TPT-0850FNFAGU-3 ($131.95)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Blue SN580 M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS250G3B0E ($48.59)
Storage: SAMSUNG 990 PRO 2TB SSD, PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280, Seq. Read Speeds Up-to 7,450MB/s for High End Computing, Gaming, and Heavy Duty Workstations (MZ-V9P2T0B/AM) Non-Heatsink ($169.99)
Overall cost comes to approximately $2,540.49

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peanut1507
Junior Member
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01-11-2023, 05:34 AM
#10
You can review the Puget System's article. If you try those programs, you might notice some improvements. However, the increased clock speed on both CCXs of the 9950X compared to the X3D CCX and a regular CCX on the 9950X3D could be faster. It depends on the situation.
I likely wouldn’t afford such a costly motherboard myself. It seems there will probably be a SAS or RAID controller installed for the drive bays. As long as you have the right PCIe lanes, you should be fine there. X670E is essentially a dual X670 chipset using the same connection as the CPU. So while you get plenty of expansion options, your bandwidth won’t increase much. Threadripper could be worth thinking about for your needs.
You’ll also need a CPU cooler.
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peanut1507
01-11-2023, 05:34 AM #10

You can review the Puget System's article. If you try those programs, you might notice some improvements. However, the increased clock speed on both CCXs of the 9950X compared to the X3D CCX and a regular CCX on the 9950X3D could be faster. It depends on the situation.
I likely wouldn’t afford such a costly motherboard myself. It seems there will probably be a SAS or RAID controller installed for the drive bays. As long as you have the right PCIe lanes, you should be fine there. X670E is essentially a dual X670 chipset using the same connection as the CPU. So while you get plenty of expansion options, your bandwidth won’t increase much. Threadripper could be worth thinking about for your needs.
You’ll also need a CPU cooler.

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