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Wary of deceptive ad claims about RAM speeds

Wary of deceptive ad claims about RAM speeds

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Miyuumi
Senior Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
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Hey, I did this just to check what IC the RAM was using. I bought a set of Corsair LPX high-performance RAM last week during a sale—16*2 GB for under 50 euros, which seems fair. I installed it today and checked the version; it’s V3.44 if you need the details. The chips are Micron E type as expected, but there’s an issue: this particular batch has low quality. It claims a base speed of 2133 MHz, but won’t actually reach 3600 MHz. The advertised 3200 MHz C16 speed is an XMP setting, and forcing it down to C14 caused many errors during a TM5 test. Notably, it would crash with IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL when I opened Windows at a precise timing of 3733 MHz (the same setting used on another Hyundai CJR-XNC 8+8). Summary: Proceed with caution when speeds appear like 3200 MHz but are actually around 2133 MHz XMP’d to 3200.
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Miyuumi
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #1

Hey, I did this just to check what IC the RAM was using. I bought a set of Corsair LPX high-performance RAM last week during a sale—16*2 GB for under 50 euros, which seems fair. I installed it today and checked the version; it’s V3.44 if you need the details. The chips are Micron E type as expected, but there’s an issue: this particular batch has low quality. It claims a base speed of 2133 MHz, but won’t actually reach 3600 MHz. The advertised 3200 MHz C16 speed is an XMP setting, and forcing it down to C14 caused many errors during a TM5 test. Notably, it would crash with IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL when I opened Windows at a precise timing of 3733 MHz (the same setting used on another Hyundai CJR-XNC 8+8). Summary: Proceed with caution when speeds appear like 3200 MHz but are actually around 2133 MHz XMP’d to 3200.

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NoAlternate
Junior Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
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NoAlternate
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #2

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Jesuss_
Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#3
For a 3200Mhz CL16 model, any frequency above that might lead to problems or failure.
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Jesuss_
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #3

For a 3200Mhz CL16 model, any frequency above that might lead to problems or failure.

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NorthwestSun
Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#4
Usually 3200C16 isn't very good. That's about it.
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NorthwestSun
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #4

Usually 3200C16 isn't very good. That's about it.

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yarabi87
Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#5
It differs from the typical E die in several ways. Micron developed two variants—8Gb and 16Gb. The 8Gb Rev E model consistently achieves speeds above 4800. The 16Gb Rev E tends to perform poorly, averaging around 3200 CL16. The specific model you receive is identified by its first four digits, which indicate the die density; for example, version 3.34 points to the 8Gb Rev E. Overclocking potential varies widely, from 3200 CL16 to up to 4800 CL15 depending on the memory IC. It’s not misleading because it still meets advertised capabilities. However, its limited overclocking ability remains a point of concern, especially since most users don’t typically attempt RAM overclocking.
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yarabi87
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #5

It differs from the typical E die in several ways. Micron developed two variants—8Gb and 16Gb. The 8Gb Rev E model consistently achieves speeds above 4800. The 16Gb Rev E tends to perform poorly, averaging around 3200 CL16. The specific model you receive is identified by its first four digits, which indicate the die density; for example, version 3.34 points to the 8Gb Rev E. Overclocking potential varies widely, from 3200 CL16 to up to 4800 CL15 depending on the memory IC. It’s not misleading because it still meets advertised capabilities. However, its limited overclocking ability remains a point of concern, especially since most users don’t typically attempt RAM overclocking.

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_OverloadKid
Member
237
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#6
They omitted the fundamental tone.
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_OverloadKid
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #6

They omitted the fundamental tone.

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fabopoulos
Junior Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#7
The issue lies in the frequency value of 2133Mhz, which doesn't match typical JEDEC standards for RAM speeds around 3000Mhz or higher.
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fabopoulos
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #7

The issue lies in the frequency value of 2133Mhz, which doesn't match typical JEDEC standards for RAM speeds around 3000Mhz or higher.

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Simn039
Junior Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#8
This set includes the base speed shown on Corsair’s site, and it seems quite alike to your own. They tend to keep it under wraps, but since XMP will be enabled for most users, it doesn’t really matter much.
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Simn039
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #8

This set includes the base speed shown on Corsair’s site, and it seems quite alike to your own. They tend to keep it under wraps, but since XMP will be enabled for most users, it doesn’t really matter much.

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mc_jiggles
Junior Member
27
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#9
JEDEC represents the expected RAM speed. Anything higher than JEDEC indicates overclocking and isn't assured. Features like XMP, Expo, DOCP are all claimed by manufacturers as effective overclocking options. That’s essentially what they say. I believe this approach is confusing and potentially misleading, yet it’s common in marketing.
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mc_jiggles
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #9

JEDEC represents the expected RAM speed. Anything higher than JEDEC indicates overclocking and isn't assured. Features like XMP, Expo, DOCP are all claimed by manufacturers as effective overclocking options. That’s essentially what they say. I believe this approach is confusing and potentially misleading, yet it’s common in marketing.

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dat__b0i
Member
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09-15-2018, 07:58 AM
#10
Corsair offers numerous LPX versions, and it seems they even provide matching sticks capable of 4000°C19. Just a heads up, the packaging mentions DDR4 16GB at 3200MHz.
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dat__b0i
09-15-2018, 07:58 AM #10

Corsair offers numerous LPX versions, and it seems they even provide matching sticks capable of 4000°C19. Just a heads up, the packaging mentions DDR4 16GB at 3200MHz.

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