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Voltage and Clock Speeds

Voltage and Clock Speeds

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Forever_happy
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04-27-2023, 11:26 PM
#1
Is there a standard formula to determine the minimum voltage needed for a processor to operate at a stable clock speed without exceeding it unnecessarily? This would help avoid wasting energy and preventing overheating.
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Forever_happy
04-27-2023, 11:26 PM #1

Is there a standard formula to determine the minimum voltage needed for a processor to operate at a stable clock speed without exceeding it unnecessarily? This would help avoid wasting energy and preventing overheating.

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TeDraKill
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04-28-2023, 12:54 AM
#2
Yes, trial and error. Generally speaking, it MUST be an incremental process for exactly the reasons you've outlined. Small increase in clock frequency, small increase in voltage, test. Stable? Then another small increase in clock frequency and test. Not stable? Then small increase in voltage and re-test. There is NO formula for simply jumping to a specific clock speed, slapping a predetermined voltage on it and knowing it will be stable. You have to do the work.
Quick and dirty overview of overclocking/stability validation procedure.
Set CPU multiplier and voltage at desired settings in BIOS. Do not use presets or automatic utilities. These will overcompensate on core and other voltages. It is much better to configure most core...
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TeDraKill
04-28-2023, 12:54 AM #2

Yes, trial and error. Generally speaking, it MUST be an incremental process for exactly the reasons you've outlined. Small increase in clock frequency, small increase in voltage, test. Stable? Then another small increase in clock frequency and test. Not stable? Then small increase in voltage and re-test. There is NO formula for simply jumping to a specific clock speed, slapping a predetermined voltage on it and knowing it will be stable. You have to do the work.
Quick and dirty overview of overclocking/stability validation procedure.
Set CPU multiplier and voltage at desired settings in BIOS. Do not use presets or automatic utilities. These will overcompensate on core and other voltages. It is much better to configure most core...

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OMGitzbrent
Member
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05-16-2023, 11:53 AM
#3
Typically, the process involves gradual adjustments. A modest rise in clock speed, followed by a slight increase in voltage, then testing. If stable, proceed with another minor adjustment and test again. If not stable, try adjusting voltage first and re-evaluate. There is no standard formula to directly set a specific clock speed or apply fixed voltage without testing. You must perform the necessary work.

A brief summary of the overclocking and stability check process:
Begin by setting the CPU multiplier and voltage in BIOS according to your desired values. Avoid presets; manual tuning is preferable. Once stability is confirmed, save the BIOS settings and exit.

Launch Windows and configure the system with Prime95 version 26.6. Install HWinfo or CoreTemp for monitoring. Execute a Small FFT test in Prime95 for 15 minutes while keeping an eye on core and temperature readings to ensure they stay within limits (typically around 80°C for Intel and Ryzen CPUs).

For thermal compliance, use a monitor that tracks distance to TJmax and ensures it doesn’t drop below acceptable thresholds. If your CPU meets these requirements, proceed to stability validation.

Download Realbench, select the Stress test option, and run it with a memory size matching roughly half your installed RAM (e.g., 8GB for 16GB). Allow the test to complete for up to 8 hours without using the system otherwise. Observe real-world performance under load.

If stability is confirmed, consider extending the test with Prime95 Blend mode or Small FFT for additional assurance. Do not run HWinfo or CoreTemp during this phase unless you already verified thermal compliance.

Should any instability arise during testing, adjust BIOS settings—either lowering the multiplier or increasing voltage—and restart the process. If errors occur in any test, modify BIOS parameters accordingly and recheck stability.

For those new to overclocking, a more detailed guide is available here:
*CPU overclocking guide for beginners*
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OMGitzbrent
05-16-2023, 11:53 AM #3

Typically, the process involves gradual adjustments. A modest rise in clock speed, followed by a slight increase in voltage, then testing. If stable, proceed with another minor adjustment and test again. If not stable, try adjusting voltage first and re-evaluate. There is no standard formula to directly set a specific clock speed or apply fixed voltage without testing. You must perform the necessary work.

A brief summary of the overclocking and stability check process:
Begin by setting the CPU multiplier and voltage in BIOS according to your desired values. Avoid presets; manual tuning is preferable. Once stability is confirmed, save the BIOS settings and exit.

Launch Windows and configure the system with Prime95 version 26.6. Install HWinfo or CoreTemp for monitoring. Execute a Small FFT test in Prime95 for 15 minutes while keeping an eye on core and temperature readings to ensure they stay within limits (typically around 80°C for Intel and Ryzen CPUs).

For thermal compliance, use a monitor that tracks distance to TJmax and ensures it doesn’t drop below acceptable thresholds. If your CPU meets these requirements, proceed to stability validation.

Download Realbench, select the Stress test option, and run it with a memory size matching roughly half your installed RAM (e.g., 8GB for 16GB). Allow the test to complete for up to 8 hours without using the system otherwise. Observe real-world performance under load.

If stability is confirmed, consider extending the test with Prime95 Blend mode or Small FFT for additional assurance. Do not run HWinfo or CoreTemp during this phase unless you already verified thermal compliance.

Should any instability arise during testing, adjust BIOS settings—either lowering the multiplier or increasing voltage—and restart the process. If errors occur in any test, modify BIOS parameters accordingly and recheck stability.

For those new to overclocking, a more detailed guide is available here:
*CPU overclocking guide for beginners*

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johnsrealm
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05-16-2023, 02:51 PM
#4
Yes, that means turning off turbo boost, correct?
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johnsrealm
05-16-2023, 02:51 PM #4

Yes, that means turning off turbo boost, correct?

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Crystal_Potato
Junior Member
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05-17-2023, 09:11 PM
#5
Depends on the platform. For modern Intel platforms, you need to leave the boost features enabled because that's actually how you get the per core overclock to work on most of them. For older AMD platforms, you'd disable it and do everything via CPU multiplier. For AMD Ryzen platforms, I'm not sure which option is preferable as I haven't yet done any overclocking myself on Ryzen. If it is a Ryzen platform though, there is certainly TONS of information available on that.
What are your hardware specifications for all your core hardware like motherboard, cpu, power supply, memory, etc.?
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Crystal_Potato
05-17-2023, 09:11 PM #5

Depends on the platform. For modern Intel platforms, you need to leave the boost features enabled because that's actually how you get the per core overclock to work on most of them. For older AMD platforms, you'd disable it and do everything via CPU multiplier. For AMD Ryzen platforms, I'm not sure which option is preferable as I haven't yet done any overclocking myself on Ryzen. If it is a Ryzen platform though, there is certainly TONS of information available on that.
What are your hardware specifications for all your core hardware like motherboard, cpu, power supply, memory, etc.?

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Cherrie24
Member
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05-18-2023, 05:17 AM
#6
the specs are available as well. also, i might have achieved some incredible performance from my cpu, but it's far from stable. i was lucky to manage to run the benchmark without the pc crashing. additionally, how do you determine if increasing the voltage is too much? unless the only option is damaging the cpu.
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Cherrie24
05-18-2023, 05:17 AM #6

the specs are available as well. also, i might have achieved some incredible performance from my cpu, but it's far from stable. i was lucky to manage to run the benchmark without the pc crashing. additionally, how do you determine if increasing the voltage is too much? unless the only option is damaging the cpu.

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BlackElemental
Junior Member
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05-18-2023, 08:15 AM
#7
The only method to "fry your CPU" is attempting a jump to a specific setting without proper preparation. You determine if you've raised the voltage excessively through thermal testing. If the temperature ever goes above 80°C, it indicates either too high a voltage or an issue with cooling—such as insufficient case airflow, an inadequate CPU cooler, or a poorly secured cooler. The instructions are clearly detailed in the post I previously shared and in my basic overclocking guide I linked to.
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BlackElemental
05-18-2023, 08:15 AM #7

The only method to "fry your CPU" is attempting a jump to a specific setting without proper preparation. You determine if you've raised the voltage excessively through thermal testing. If the temperature ever goes above 80°C, it indicates either too high a voltage or an issue with cooling—such as insufficient case airflow, an inadequate CPU cooler, or a poorly secured cooler. The instructions are clearly detailed in the post I previously shared and in my basic overclocking guide I linked to.

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NaviPixel
Member
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05-20-2023, 11:46 AM
#8
Thanks for the assistance! I had some thoughts from other references suggesting I could damage my CPU with a sufficiently high voltage rise, not through excessive heat. Probably should have understood that higher voltage and heat are linked...
Also, I didn’t mention that the Cooler Master 600W power supply is available.
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NaviPixel
05-20-2023, 11:46 AM #8

Thanks for the assistance! I had some thoughts from other references suggesting I could damage my CPU with a sufficiently high voltage rise, not through excessive heat. Probably should have understood that higher voltage and heat are linked...
Also, I didn’t mention that the Cooler Master 600W power supply is available.

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Croonix
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05-20-2023, 07:48 PM
#9
The precise model of your power supply is clearly defined. Yes, there is typically a "death voltage," and while it's possible to damage a CPU by applying excessive voltage, achieving that threshold requires careful adherence to the correct procedures and thorough checks at each step. You'll reach the limit where the CPU becomes unstable or you can't stay within the thermal limits, well before hitting the voltage that would cause immediate harm to the VRMs or CPU.
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Croonix
05-20-2023, 07:48 PM #9

The precise model of your power supply is clearly defined. Yes, there is typically a "death voltage," and while it's possible to damage a CPU by applying excessive voltage, achieving that threshold requires careful adherence to the correct procedures and thorough checks at each step. You'll reach the limit where the CPU becomes unstable or you can't stay within the thermal limits, well before hitting the voltage that would cause immediate harm to the VRMs or CPU.

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icemath63
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05-24-2023, 04:01 PM
#10
My PC uses a PowerSpec G351 with a "600 80 plus" power supply. Is that sufficient? I'm unsure if this is the only version available or if other types exist.
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icemath63
05-24-2023, 04:01 PM #10

My PC uses a PowerSpec G351 with a "600 80 plus" power supply. Is that sufficient? I'm unsure if this is the only version available or if other types exist.

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