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Various Ryzen combinations for various display sizes

Various Ryzen combinations for various display sizes

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Eusebio06
Senior Member
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02-03-2022, 04:20 AM
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I’m searching for the least demanding CPU to avoid slowing down current market GPUs with 2023 AAA games. While future-proofing isn’t essential, I know higher resolutions push more load on GPUs. A lighter CPU can let you invest in a stronger GPU. I usually go with AM4/AM5 boards since they’re common and AMD options are plentiful. I’m just beginning a business selling prebuilt PCs, so I want to confirm these combinations work at 1440p. I checked 3DMark scores, in-game tests, and Tom’s Hardware rankings to help decide. Any tips would be appreciated. I used RX 6650 XT, Ryzen 5 5500 Gold, and similar setups. My main worry is the RX 6750 XT paired with Ryzen 5 5500 for 1440p. Also, do any of these CPU choices feel too heavy or cause bottlenecks? Thanks!
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Eusebio06
02-03-2022, 04:20 AM #1

I’m searching for the least demanding CPU to avoid slowing down current market GPUs with 2023 AAA games. While future-proofing isn’t essential, I know higher resolutions push more load on GPUs. A lighter CPU can let you invest in a stronger GPU. I usually go with AM4/AM5 boards since they’re common and AMD options are plentiful. I’m just beginning a business selling prebuilt PCs, so I want to confirm these combinations work at 1440p. I checked 3DMark scores, in-game tests, and Tom’s Hardware rankings to help decide. Any tips would be appreciated. I used RX 6650 XT, Ryzen 5 5500 Gold, and similar setups. My main worry is the RX 6750 XT paired with Ryzen 5 5500 for 1440p. Also, do any of these CPU choices feel too heavy or cause bottlenecks? Thanks!

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Miisogi
Junior Member
21
02-03-2022, 04:45 AM
#2
Focus more on this and a little on that, but don't worry too much. Everything should be okay.
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Miisogi
02-03-2022, 04:45 AM #2

Focus more on this and a little on that, but don't worry too much. Everything should be okay.

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samus2195
Junior Member
2
02-03-2022, 11:39 AM
#3
Examine the pricing options to discover better alternatives.

Current: $258 for Ryzen 5 5600X with Gigabyte B450M DS3H, WiFi, 16GB DDR4-3600, and a Gelid Glacier Dual-Tower RGB cooler.

Upgrade: $338 for Ryzen 5 7600X paired with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600, and a Gelid Glacier Dual-Tower RGB cooler.

Extreme: $405 for Ryzen 5 7600X with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600, and a Cooler Master ML360L cooler.

The 1080p Super tier uses an RX 6950 XT and a Ryzen 5 5600X.

Consider a 360mm AIO for the Extreme level mainly for appearance or marketing. All AM5 chips in these setups share a 360mm AIO.

If you have any suggestions on fixing this, feel free to share. Thanks!
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samus2195
02-03-2022, 11:39 AM #3

Examine the pricing options to discover better alternatives.

Current: $258 for Ryzen 5 5600X with Gigabyte B450M DS3H, WiFi, 16GB DDR4-3600, and a Gelid Glacier Dual-Tower RGB cooler.

Upgrade: $338 for Ryzen 5 7600X paired with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600, and a Gelid Glacier Dual-Tower RGB cooler.

Extreme: $405 for Ryzen 5 7600X with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600, and a Cooler Master ML360L cooler.

The 1080p Super tier uses an RX 6950 XT and a Ryzen 5 5600X.

Consider a 360mm AIO for the Extreme level mainly for appearance or marketing. All AM5 chips in these setups share a 360mm AIO.

If you have any suggestions on fixing this, feel free to share. Thanks!

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johannesek
Junior Member
12
02-06-2022, 01:49 AM
#4
Switch to a 7600 model, remove the extra CPU cooler, and opt for the 7700 non-X design without an AIO. Use the chips from the CPU package—7600, 7700, or 7900—and you won’t need an AIO or additional cooling. The included cooler in the package will suffice.
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johannesek
02-06-2022, 01:49 AM #4

Switch to a 7600 model, remove the extra CPU cooler, and opt for the 7700 non-X design without an AIO. Use the chips from the CPU package—7600, 7700, or 7900—and you won’t need an AIO or additional cooling. The included cooler in the package will suffice.

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feriSVK
Member
71
02-06-2022, 10:35 AM
#5
7600 isn't in stock at Micro Center. The best alternative costs more: a Ryzen 5 7600 with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600 RAM, and a stock cooler. For the second upgrade, only a $35 extra, but I won't stick with just a 360mm AIO for looks. I aimed to raise the clock speed on the 7600X to match the 7700. The Ryzen 7 7700 with MSI PRO B650M-P, same RAM and cooler comes in at $440. I'm wondering when the performance boost from a 360mm AIO becomes worth the savings on a cheaper CPU. Besides, AM5 systems often include 360mm AIOs, and there are other cool options available: a case upgrade from Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB to a HYTE Y40, an IPS screen with a 3D printed mount for $46, ARGB fans from Antec Prizm at $60, and a 360mm AIO for $95.
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feriSVK
02-06-2022, 10:35 AM #5

7600 isn't in stock at Micro Center. The best alternative costs more: a Ryzen 5 7600 with MSI PRO B650M-P, 16GB DDR5-5600 RAM, and a stock cooler. For the second upgrade, only a $35 extra, but I won't stick with just a 360mm AIO for looks. I aimed to raise the clock speed on the 7600X to match the 7700. The Ryzen 7 7700 with MSI PRO B650M-P, same RAM and cooler comes in at $440. I'm wondering when the performance boost from a 360mm AIO becomes worth the savings on a cheaper CPU. Besides, AM5 systems often include 360mm AIOs, and there are other cool options available: a case upgrade from Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB to a HYTE Y40, an IPS screen with a 3D printed mount for $46, ARGB fans from Antec Prizm at $60, and a 360mm AIO for $95.

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Grox2049
Member
67
02-06-2022, 12:48 PM
#6
Upgrading to a lower core count chip won't allow you to reach higher clock speeds compared to a chip with the same generation. I've experimented with boosting my 5600 to 5700x in Cinebench, but the 6-core setup still falls short of the 8 cores of the 5700x. This isn't a solid upgrade since the Y40 has poor thermal performance, even worse than the Pop Air. If you're determined, the Fractal Pop Air includes three RGB fans, but it's uncertain if it will work. For better results, consider investing more in an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 to fit the Fractal Pop Air and potentially improve performance over the cooler Master 360 ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280.
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Grox2049
02-06-2022, 12:48 PM #6

Upgrading to a lower core count chip won't allow you to reach higher clock speeds compared to a chip with the same generation. I've experimented with boosting my 5600 to 5700x in Cinebench, but the 6-core setup still falls short of the 8 cores of the 5700x. This isn't a solid upgrade since the Y40 has poor thermal performance, even worse than the Pop Air. If you're determined, the Fractal Pop Air includes three RGB fans, but it's uncertain if it will work. For better results, consider investing more in an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 to fit the Fractal Pop Air and potentially improve performance over the cooler Master 360 ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280.

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Addycassy
Junior Member
37
02-06-2022, 02:40 PM
#7
This is really insightful, I've actually built twice out of a Pop Air and I'd recommend it along with Fractal Design as a company. I assumed the increased number of fans paired with the Y40 would just be better for passive cooling. The reasoning behind the Y40 is the fishbowl style, using two flush side panels, similar to the NZXT H9 Flow for a much cheaper price. The O11 Dynamic variants have that annoying bar in the middle of both glass panels. I'd prefer keeping it to 120mm fans because the 6x Antec Prizm Halo-style ARGB fans come in a $50 5 pack which includes a controller. I'd be rationing off fans between different customers. I'm going to upgrade the 1080p Super preset to RX 6950 XT, Ryzen 5 7600X, with a Dual Tower cooler in a Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB. As for the 1080p Extreme, I'm going to keep the current setup with the RX 7900 XT, Ryzen 5 7600X, hoping the AIO can prevent the CPU bottleneck. I plan on updating these build presets every month, so if after testing I don't see necessary performance boost, I may consider staying on AM4 with the 5600X3D bundles. The 1080p Extreme would look like this but with no RGB ram, no AIO screen, the Aliexpress internal screen, and the rad fans replaced with the Antec Prizm fans. It leaves me with a surplus of fans but I plan on repurposing them or selling them, so in actuality I wouldn't be losing money on fan swaps.
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Addycassy
02-06-2022, 02:40 PM #7

This is really insightful, I've actually built twice out of a Pop Air and I'd recommend it along with Fractal Design as a company. I assumed the increased number of fans paired with the Y40 would just be better for passive cooling. The reasoning behind the Y40 is the fishbowl style, using two flush side panels, similar to the NZXT H9 Flow for a much cheaper price. The O11 Dynamic variants have that annoying bar in the middle of both glass panels. I'd prefer keeping it to 120mm fans because the 6x Antec Prizm Halo-style ARGB fans come in a $50 5 pack which includes a controller. I'd be rationing off fans between different customers. I'm going to upgrade the 1080p Super preset to RX 6950 XT, Ryzen 5 7600X, with a Dual Tower cooler in a Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB. As for the 1080p Extreme, I'm going to keep the current setup with the RX 7900 XT, Ryzen 5 7600X, hoping the AIO can prevent the CPU bottleneck. I plan on updating these build presets every month, so if after testing I don't see necessary performance boost, I may consider staying on AM4 with the 5600X3D bundles. The 1080p Extreme would look like this but with no RGB ram, no AIO screen, the Aliexpress internal screen, and the rad fans replaced with the Antec Prizm fans. It leaves me with a surplus of fans but I plan on repurposing them or selling them, so in actuality I wouldn't be losing money on fan swaps.

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Aggrobar
Junior Member
2
02-14-2022, 02:46 AM
#8
Visit the website at logicalincrements.com
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Aggrobar
02-14-2022, 02:46 AM #8

Visit the website at logicalincrements.com

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milkshakegal
Junior Member
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02-14-2022, 05:58 AM
#9
Checked the site and noticed online Intel prices. For my budget, a Ryzen CPU in bundles at Micro Center looks more affordable. Did you have any preferences for what to recommend?
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milkshakegal
02-14-2022, 05:58 AM #9

Checked the site and noticed online Intel prices. For my budget, a Ryzen CPU in bundles at Micro Center looks more affordable. Did you have any preferences for what to recommend?

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Royal_Sniper
Member
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02-14-2022, 11:59 PM
#10
They didn<|pad|> a clear way of explaining how budget changes work. Even though Logical Increments aren’t flawless, they made it easy to understand for beginners looking to build a PC on a budget.
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Royal_Sniper
02-14-2022, 11:59 PM #10

They didn<|pad|> a clear way of explaining how budget changes work. Even though Logical Increments aren’t flawless, they made it easy to understand for beginners looking to build a PC on a budget.