F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Using rams beyond the motherboard's limits can cause instability or damage.

Using rams beyond the motherboard's limits can cause instability or damage.

Using rams beyond the motherboard's limits can cause instability or damage.

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WariOrgames
Junior Member
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07-23-2016, 11:05 AM
#1
The motherboard might treat the extra RAM as less than the stated limit, potentially skipping the 4GB block and leaving only 8GB usable. It could also fail to boot if the configuration doesn't match.
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WariOrgames
07-23-2016, 11:05 AM #1

The motherboard might treat the extra RAM as less than the stated limit, potentially skipping the 4GB block and leaving only 8GB usable. It could also fail to boot if the configuration doesn't match.

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chrisua10
Junior Member
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07-23-2016, 03:01 PM
#2
Dang, forgot the “happens” after “What”
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chrisua10
07-23-2016, 03:01 PM #2

Dang, forgot the “happens” after “What”

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159
08-07-2016, 07:59 PM
#3
Usually they show the maximum capacity from the original dimmer specs. It tends to function well even with larger dimmers.
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pocketchicken1
08-07-2016, 07:59 PM #3

Usually they show the maximum capacity from the original dimmer specs. It tends to function well even with larger dimmers.

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mostan
Junior Member
29
08-11-2016, 12:26 AM
#4
It seems there are some mix-ups in the details. The model mentioned has 6 slots for triple channel, supports up to 24GB of DDR3 unbuffered RAM, and the message encourages you to have fun and be successful.
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mostan
08-11-2016, 12:26 AM #4

It seems there are some mix-ups in the details. The model mentioned has 6 slots for triple channel, supports up to 24GB of DDR3 unbuffered RAM, and the message encourages you to have fun and be successful.

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Berthaprost
Junior Member
2
08-11-2016, 02:01 AM
#5
Even a modest 48gb could fit on this system, though some users have managed with that amount. The reason many invest so much in such outdated hardware is because the processors here are from the very first generation of Ryzen and still struggle significantly. You should enable triple channel memory to get the best performance; you can set up a 4x4 configuration by ignoring the two outer slots. I’m doing the same, but using three sticks since I’m pushing the RAM to its limits (1x3 overclock on PSD X chips at 2200C5, 5-10-7-24 with 1.8V).

If you’re overclocking, make sure your BIOS is updated—ASUS low-end BIOS is unreliable. Using a decent 4$ programmer and flashing to P6T 58D Premium will boost OC potential. This was the approach I took when I first got my P6T Deluxe V2. Avoid sticking to conservative safe voltages; they’re often misleading. Intel’s 32nm specs allow pushing CPUs up to around 1.55V, which is why I tested at 2.46V on a Samsung Rev F stick for about eight hours without noticeable wear. Assume a max of ~2.1V if you want the IMC to last. Safe voltages for DRAM are fine up to 2.46V, but keep in mind that 1.9V–1.45V is recommended for stability. The 0.5V rule is largely worthless—experiments show it doesn’t help much. Overall, these chips are affordable, and if you hit a voltage issue, it’s usually temporary before the IMC starts to fail.
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Berthaprost
08-11-2016, 02:01 AM #5

Even a modest 48gb could fit on this system, though some users have managed with that amount. The reason many invest so much in such outdated hardware is because the processors here are from the very first generation of Ryzen and still struggle significantly. You should enable triple channel memory to get the best performance; you can set up a 4x4 configuration by ignoring the two outer slots. I’m doing the same, but using three sticks since I’m pushing the RAM to its limits (1x3 overclock on PSD X chips at 2200C5, 5-10-7-24 with 1.8V).

If you’re overclocking, make sure your BIOS is updated—ASUS low-end BIOS is unreliable. Using a decent 4$ programmer and flashing to P6T 58D Premium will boost OC potential. This was the approach I took when I first got my P6T Deluxe V2. Avoid sticking to conservative safe voltages; they’re often misleading. Intel’s 32nm specs allow pushing CPUs up to around 1.55V, which is why I tested at 2.46V on a Samsung Rev F stick for about eight hours without noticeable wear. Assume a max of ~2.1V if you want the IMC to last. Safe voltages for DRAM are fine up to 2.46V, but keep in mind that 1.9V–1.45V is recommended for stability. The 0.5V rule is largely worthless—experiments show it doesn’t help much. Overall, these chips are affordable, and if you hit a voltage issue, it’s usually temporary before the IMC starts to fail.

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Squareflake
Junior Member
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08-11-2016, 08:03 AM
#6
I handle a lot of RAM even with just a few Chrome tabs running. My memory stays near full capacity (24GB) and the CPU load is minimal—usually under 5% when no games are active, dropping to about 30%. The peak I've seen was over 100GB total. That means 48GB isn't wasted on X58.
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Squareflake
08-11-2016, 08:03 AM #6

I handle a lot of RAM even with just a few Chrome tabs running. My memory stays near full capacity (24GB) and the CPU load is minimal—usually under 5% when no games are active, dropping to about 30%. The peak I've seen was over 100GB total. That means 48GB isn't wasted on X58.

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Silvinha10
Senior Member
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08-11-2016, 08:42 AM
#7
Holy crap But x58 is mostly just budget gamers anyways so more than 24gb is useless for most, heck most ppl are still fine with 16gb for gaming If i dont upgrade straight to ryzen ill prob get 16gb in a 4x4 config, unfortunately other than hynix mfr most 4gbit ics kinda suck, and x58 is garbage at clocking rams high as to be expected with a first gen imc so im stuck with 4gbit samsungs or 4gbit micron d9qbj. So 4x4 allows for dual rank samsung 2gbit rev d which are much better for oc timings wise, they even scale over 2v
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Silvinha10
08-11-2016, 08:42 AM #7

Holy crap But x58 is mostly just budget gamers anyways so more than 24gb is useless for most, heck most ppl are still fine with 16gb for gaming If i dont upgrade straight to ryzen ill prob get 16gb in a 4x4 config, unfortunately other than hynix mfr most 4gbit ics kinda suck, and x58 is garbage at clocking rams high as to be expected with a first gen imc so im stuck with 4gbit samsungs or 4gbit micron d9qbj. So 4x4 allows for dual rank samsung 2gbit rev d which are much better for oc timings wise, they even scale over 2v

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Hols8888
Member
140
08-11-2016, 11:05 AM
#8
For me, 16 feels a bit too low. I planned to handle high-quality images and videos with super-resolution, aiming for 48 or even 96GB storage. But that would be really costly given the cost of DDR3 unbuffered RAM, so I might settle on 24GB instead.
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Hols8888
08-11-2016, 11:05 AM #8

For me, 16 feels a bit too low. I planned to handle high-quality images and videos with super-resolution, aiming for 48 or even 96GB storage. But that would be really costly given the cost of DDR3 unbuffered RAM, so I might settle on 24GB instead.

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SethexGS
Junior Member
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08-31-2016, 02:57 PM
#9
You could switch to a more recent system; x58 performs similarly to first-generation Ryzen when running 4.2+, but it consumes significant power. Consider 4x6 or 8x3 setups based on cost. If you plan to run a 6-core or dual-core configuration, x58 might not be ideal. For boosting over 2000MHz, adjust your core count to around 3600 and increase the PCLK to 1.5V or raise the voltage slightly. If you skip adding extra RAM, a 3700-3900 core at 1.4-1.45V PCLK and 1.5V PCLP should work well. For stability, aim for 221-230GHz at 120 PCIe assuming BIOS is updated to P6X58D Premium. A 230GHz setup needs roughly 1.34V for I/O cores and 1.76V for PCIe. Using 200-221GHz with 1.3V I/O cores and 1.5V PCIe will keep things smooth without slowing down due to slow I/O. For performance tweaks, set the clock speed to the lowest possible at 120GHz and ensure your CPU voltage stays around 1.4-1.45V. Higher clocks (like 3000+) push the CPU near its limits (~4.5-4.6GHz) and require much more voltage—around 5.1-5.2V for BIOS boot at 1.7V. High-end i7s such as 980/990X can handle ~5GHz all-core under 70°C, but stick to lower clocks and safe voltages unless you want extra stress. Avoid cheap frequency controllers like Hyundai MFR/BFRL that push speeds beyond 3000MHz; they often cause instability. Overall, focus on stable timing ICs and steer clear of extreme frequencies.
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SethexGS
08-31-2016, 02:57 PM #9

You could switch to a more recent system; x58 performs similarly to first-generation Ryzen when running 4.2+, but it consumes significant power. Consider 4x6 or 8x3 setups based on cost. If you plan to run a 6-core or dual-core configuration, x58 might not be ideal. For boosting over 2000MHz, adjust your core count to around 3600 and increase the PCLK to 1.5V or raise the voltage slightly. If you skip adding extra RAM, a 3700-3900 core at 1.4-1.45V PCLK and 1.5V PCLP should work well. For stability, aim for 221-230GHz at 120 PCIe assuming BIOS is updated to P6X58D Premium. A 230GHz setup needs roughly 1.34V for I/O cores and 1.76V for PCIe. Using 200-221GHz with 1.3V I/O cores and 1.5V PCIe will keep things smooth without slowing down due to slow I/O. For performance tweaks, set the clock speed to the lowest possible at 120GHz and ensure your CPU voltage stays around 1.4-1.45V. Higher clocks (like 3000+) push the CPU near its limits (~4.5-4.6GHz) and require much more voltage—around 5.1-5.2V for BIOS boot at 1.7V. High-end i7s such as 980/990X can handle ~5GHz all-core under 70°C, but stick to lower clocks and safe voltages unless you want extra stress. Avoid cheap frequency controllers like Hyundai MFR/BFRL that push speeds beyond 3000MHz; they often cause instability. Overall, focus on stable timing ICs and steer clear of extreme frequencies.

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PowerzV2
Member
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09-07-2016, 12:39 PM
#10
For me, 16 gigabytes is more than sufficient... I’m not sure why some systems seem so hungry for memory... Here’s my process—encoding 1440p video at 60 frames per second in maximum quality—it doesn’t really consume much RAM, right? There must be some advantages to it.
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PowerzV2
09-07-2016, 12:39 PM #10

For me, 16 gigabytes is more than sufficient... I’m not sure why some systems seem so hungry for memory... Here’s my process—encoding 1440p video at 60 frames per second in maximum quality—it doesn’t really consume much RAM, right? There must be some advantages to it.

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