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Using Gnome and a dual monitor setup isn't ideal.

Using Gnome and a dual monitor setup isn't ideal.

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BlackhawkOz
Junior Member
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09-28-2023, 05:57 PM
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Gnome could suggest it's a Fedora problem. Or maybe the sound issue relates to pipewire. Or perhaps it's a gnome concern since pipewire is needed. That's a situation where Fedora, gnome, and pipewire must coordinate. It's not about hostility—it's just how things are.
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BlackhawkOz
09-28-2023, 05:57 PM #21

Gnome could suggest it's a Fedora problem. Or maybe the sound issue relates to pipewire. Or perhaps it's a gnome concern since pipewire is needed. That's a situation where Fedora, gnome, and pipewire must coordinate. It's not about hostility—it's just how things are.

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Timke
Member
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09-28-2023, 09:57 PM
#22
You mentioned several points that seem unclear or confusing. It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what audio problem you’re experiencing. Did you mean to ask about the behavior of Fedora and Gnome when certain settings change?
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Timke
09-28-2023, 09:57 PM #22

You mentioned several points that seem unclear or confusing. It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what audio problem you’re experiencing. Did you mean to ask about the behavior of Fedora and Gnome when certain settings change?

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SodaBubbles24
Member
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09-29-2023, 12:00 AM
#23
It wouldn't be an argument, only stating the facts. No, when I turn the 2nd monitor on, nothing happens. When I try to enable the 2nd monitor in the settings, that monitor goes out of standby, says there's no signal and goes back to standby and the settings say it's disabled. To get the 2nd monitor to work, I need to delete a file called monitor.xml (in ~./config, IIRC), log out of the session --- which basically means a reboot because there may still be stuff running after I log out which was a bug that prevented you from logging back in altogether after a while ago --- and log back in and if I'm lucky, I can enable the 2nd monitor. That monitor is then stuck with whatever windows I move over, no matter to which workspace I switch, which makes it amlost totally useless. Once the 2nd monitor is enabled, I don't have any audio but a 2nd audio device in the settings, and it doesn't matter which I pick, there's no audio. It's possible to get audio back by disabling the 2nd monitor and then switch it to Mirror instead of Join (Join doesn't work as the monitor is stuck on some workspace or whatever it is instead of joining the displaying of the workspaces like the 1st monitor does.). When I do that, the 2nd monitor goes out of standby, says there's no signal, goes back to standby and I have audio again if I'm lucky. Audio goes over display port to the 1st monitor which has speakers connected to it --- when it goes. Why is there no option --- and that option should be the default --- to make the audio output stick to the device it's supposed to go to. Who disconnects their speakers and connects them to a different monitor every time when an additional monitor is finally enabled? The 2nd monitor doesn't even have a connector for my speakers. Gnome hasn't been hostile. Fedora is hostile in that they use excessive censorship against users that say things they don't want to hear on their mailing list and their forum, and to the last bug report I made, I got an impertinent and hostile response which makes me really wonder who that person thinks who they are. I said things they don't want to hear ... Their behaviour is fascistical, and after the response to my bug report I can't even tell anymore if they're fascists, nazis or bullies or any combination thereof. That is something that I can't condone, certainly can't support and with which I'm finally fed up with. So I deprecated Fedora altogether and will switch to another distribution as soon as possible. Bug reports are a contribution, and they have come so far that you get kicked right into your face for it by basically being told that you're an idiot who doesn't know what you're talking about and that have to shut up about it. This was a new development, and unfortunately the only thing I can do is deprecate them and, if I should publish some software I have created, put into the license that it must not be used with anything Fedora. You can read their mission statement. It says, or used to say, something like that they want to lead the development of open source software. When you read that, it seems harmless enough. When you experience their attitude and their hostility, you can see it says that they're the kings of the world and nobody dare to interfere or have a different opinion. Sure, the world and the internet has become more and more hostile over the years, which is bad enough. But that doesn't make it alright, and it doesn't mean that you could treat people like that. Fortunately, this forum is an exception, and I appreciate that very much.
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SodaBubbles24
09-29-2023, 12:00 AM #23

It wouldn't be an argument, only stating the facts. No, when I turn the 2nd monitor on, nothing happens. When I try to enable the 2nd monitor in the settings, that monitor goes out of standby, says there's no signal and goes back to standby and the settings say it's disabled. To get the 2nd monitor to work, I need to delete a file called monitor.xml (in ~./config, IIRC), log out of the session --- which basically means a reboot because there may still be stuff running after I log out which was a bug that prevented you from logging back in altogether after a while ago --- and log back in and if I'm lucky, I can enable the 2nd monitor. That monitor is then stuck with whatever windows I move over, no matter to which workspace I switch, which makes it amlost totally useless. Once the 2nd monitor is enabled, I don't have any audio but a 2nd audio device in the settings, and it doesn't matter which I pick, there's no audio. It's possible to get audio back by disabling the 2nd monitor and then switch it to Mirror instead of Join (Join doesn't work as the monitor is stuck on some workspace or whatever it is instead of joining the displaying of the workspaces like the 1st monitor does.). When I do that, the 2nd monitor goes out of standby, says there's no signal, goes back to standby and I have audio again if I'm lucky. Audio goes over display port to the 1st monitor which has speakers connected to it --- when it goes. Why is there no option --- and that option should be the default --- to make the audio output stick to the device it's supposed to go to. Who disconnects their speakers and connects them to a different monitor every time when an additional monitor is finally enabled? The 2nd monitor doesn't even have a connector for my speakers. Gnome hasn't been hostile. Fedora is hostile in that they use excessive censorship against users that say things they don't want to hear on their mailing list and their forum, and to the last bug report I made, I got an impertinent and hostile response which makes me really wonder who that person thinks who they are. I said things they don't want to hear ... Their behaviour is fascistical, and after the response to my bug report I can't even tell anymore if they're fascists, nazis or bullies or any combination thereof. That is something that I can't condone, certainly can't support and with which I'm finally fed up with. So I deprecated Fedora altogether and will switch to another distribution as soon as possible. Bug reports are a contribution, and they have come so far that you get kicked right into your face for it by basically being told that you're an idiot who doesn't know what you're talking about and that have to shut up about it. This was a new development, and unfortunately the only thing I can do is deprecate them and, if I should publish some software I have created, put into the license that it must not be used with anything Fedora. You can read their mission statement. It says, or used to say, something like that they want to lead the development of open source software. When you read that, it seems harmless enough. When you experience their attitude and their hostility, you can see it says that they're the kings of the world and nobody dare to interfere or have a different opinion. Sure, the world and the internet has become more and more hostile over the years, which is bad enough. But that doesn't make it alright, and it doesn't mean that you could treat people like that. Fortunately, this forum is an exception, and I appreciate that very much.

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NooLele
Posting Freak
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09-30-2023, 12:48 AM
#24
Link?
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NooLele
09-30-2023, 12:48 AM #24

Link?

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ionescunelutu
Member
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09-30-2023, 09:09 AM
#25
This link points to a bug report on Red Hat Bugzilla for issue 2114677.
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ionescunelutu
09-30-2023, 09:09 AM #25

This link points to a bug report on Red Hat Bugzilla for issue 2114677.

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