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Upgrading from Air Cooler to AIO Liquid Cooler for overclocking needs

Upgrading from Air Cooler to AIO Liquid Cooler for overclocking needs

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sydneyyyyyy
Senior Member
396
07-17-2017, 10:32 AM
#11
Sure, I can assist you with that. I'm always willing to donate, but I'd cover the shipping costs—I'm not that broke.
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sydneyyyyyy
07-17-2017, 10:32 AM #11

Sure, I can assist you with that. I'm always willing to donate, but I'd cover the shipping costs—I'm not that broke.

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Bartekdwarf
Posting Freak
791
07-18-2017, 11:58 AM
#12
can you help me clean up my man cave?
there are many collectors' items scattered around.
i3 330m, stock intel cooler from unknown when, some DDR2, q9300, q8400, some mhs, some psus... even some water cooling gear.
though you don't have the voodoo 3dfx, 7200 dial-up modem, etc.
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Bartekdwarf
07-18-2017, 11:58 AM #12

can you help me clean up my man cave?
there are many collectors' items scattered around.
i3 330m, stock intel cooler from unknown when, some DDR2, q9300, q8400, some mhs, some psus... even some water cooling gear.
though you don't have the voodoo 3dfx, 7200 dial-up modem, etc.

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hotcone33
Member
204
07-19-2017, 06:41 PM
#13
With a Voodoo 5500 or 6000, I'm ready to explore possibilities.
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hotcone33
07-19-2017, 06:41 PM #13

With a Voodoo 5500 or 6000, I'm ready to explore possibilities.

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NoGSky13
Junior Member
38
08-04-2017, 07:38 PM
#14
I was in the army when it came out, and my girlfriend gave me a great gift—this card won't be anywhere soon.
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NoGSky13
08-04-2017, 07:38 PM #14

I was in the army when it came out, and my girlfriend gave me a great gift—this card won't be anywhere soon.

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kassi123
Member
137
08-04-2017, 08:53 PM
#15
I think there might be a Voodoo2 2000 left, it still functioned after the PC was retired, but I don’t have the drivers anymore. Since it was retired a while back, I can’t really say it will work for a long time or at all.
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kassi123
08-04-2017, 08:53 PM #15

I think there might be a Voodoo2 2000 left, it still functioned after the PC was retired, but I don’t have the drivers anymore. Since it was retired a while back, I can’t really say it will work for a long time or at all.

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pikkilo
Member
74
08-24-2017, 02:01 PM
#16
It isn't limited to logged-in sessions. The device continues to communicate even in guest mode, a point frequently raised in discussions on the NZXT subreddit and CAM forum. In guest mode, more than 10,000 firewall events occur. Many users have encountered this issue. I personally use guest mode and have CAM restricted, but if it weren't disabled, things would be much better. This is completely unnecessary for their software to function as described. I've stopped using CAM and am trying alternative programs now, though I'm unsure which ones will work with the Kraken coolers. It seems there might be a solution eventually.
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pikkilo
08-24-2017, 02:01 PM #16

It isn't limited to logged-in sessions. The device continues to communicate even in guest mode, a point frequently raised in discussions on the NZXT subreddit and CAM forum. In guest mode, more than 10,000 firewall events occur. Many users have encountered this issue. I personally use guest mode and have CAM restricted, but if it weren't disabled, things would be much better. This is completely unnecessary for their software to function as described. I've stopped using CAM and am trying alternative programs now, though I'm unsure which ones will work with the Kraken coolers. It seems there might be a solution eventually.

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blocks2538
Junior Member
38
09-10-2017, 12:11 AM
#17
Well, as liquid temperatures rise, speeds increase. When the system is idle or running at low loads, fan speeds remain modest—540rpm pumps and slow fan speeds. Let's adjust this perspective.

The software controlling the AIO, whether for pump or fan speed, functions well across different temperature readings. The GUI has some quirks, but since I don’t rely on the software for hue+ or the FPS overlay, or any other dashboard features, it doesn’t matter much if it behaves differently.

I recognize the Nzxt position. AMD releases a CPU design that’s still untested. The next year might see efforts to patch BIOS issues with unstable RAM. AMD can manage this; competition like Intel can’t afford such risks. Nzxt faces rivals such as Corsair, Phanteks, Noctua, and Fractal Design—each of which can’t afford to make mistakes, or it would be disastrous.

Because the average user rarely comments when their system performs well, Nzxt is expected to receive updates that provide usage percentages, temperatures, and other system metrics. This helps fix problems in upcoming updates or with a more efficient pump design, tighter or looser fins, etc.

Have you heard of the Raijintek Triton? Raijintek produces high-quality coolers, and their 92mm Aidos model competes closely with the hyper212. The Triton marked Raijintek’s entry into the AIO market—it was stylish, featured colored liquid, had a powerful pump, performed well, leaked excessively, and pumps often failed. No effort was wasted.

So yes, I understand Nzxt gathering data from users constantly to stay ahead of the curve.
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blocks2538
09-10-2017, 12:11 AM #17

Well, as liquid temperatures rise, speeds increase. When the system is idle or running at low loads, fan speeds remain modest—540rpm pumps and slow fan speeds. Let's adjust this perspective.

The software controlling the AIO, whether for pump or fan speed, functions well across different temperature readings. The GUI has some quirks, but since I don’t rely on the software for hue+ or the FPS overlay, or any other dashboard features, it doesn’t matter much if it behaves differently.

I recognize the Nzxt position. AMD releases a CPU design that’s still untested. The next year might see efforts to patch BIOS issues with unstable RAM. AMD can manage this; competition like Intel can’t afford such risks. Nzxt faces rivals such as Corsair, Phanteks, Noctua, and Fractal Design—each of which can’t afford to make mistakes, or it would be disastrous.

Because the average user rarely comments when their system performs well, Nzxt is expected to receive updates that provide usage percentages, temperatures, and other system metrics. This helps fix problems in upcoming updates or with a more efficient pump design, tighter or looser fins, etc.

Have you heard of the Raijintek Triton? Raijintek produces high-quality coolers, and their 92mm Aidos model competes closely with the hyper212. The Triton marked Raijintek’s entry into the AIO market—it was stylish, featured colored liquid, had a powerful pump, performed well, leaked excessively, and pumps often failed. No effort was wasted.

So yes, I understand Nzxt gathering data from users constantly to stay ahead of the curve.

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NextSonic
Member
85
09-10-2017, 04:45 AM
#18
The issue of leaks with Triton seems similar to the problems seen with the Predator line from EK. Many people are generally unwise and lack effort (half the population has double-digit IQ). When they receive more complex items (like detachable tubes), they often manage to remove them. It’s just like with cars: German vehicles usually come with advanced technology such as preselective gearboxes, turbo chargers, compressors, sophisticated suspension, and integrated electronics. If not used correctly (user is RTFM and follows instructions), they can fail. But when used properly, they are reliable, safe, fuel-efficient, etc. On the other hand, there are things like Toyota cars that are the simplest to operate—completely indifferent to how a user treats them. They work perfectly and behave predictably. The same applies to other areas; computer cooling is one such example. It’s clear that a well-built custom loop can deliver top performance with minimal noise and no reliability concerns. I don’t know how many loops I’ve constructed (including rebuilds), but none have leaked. Still, the average person would benefit more from a good air cooler.
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NextSonic
09-10-2017, 04:45 AM #18

The issue of leaks with Triton seems similar to the problems seen with the Predator line from EK. Many people are generally unwise and lack effort (half the population has double-digit IQ). When they receive more complex items (like detachable tubes), they often manage to remove them. It’s just like with cars: German vehicles usually come with advanced technology such as preselective gearboxes, turbo chargers, compressors, sophisticated suspension, and integrated electronics. If not used correctly (user is RTFM and follows instructions), they can fail. But when used properly, they are reliable, safe, fuel-efficient, etc. On the other hand, there are things like Toyota cars that are the simplest to operate—completely indifferent to how a user treats them. They work perfectly and behave predictably. The same applies to other areas; computer cooling is one such example. It’s clear that a well-built custom loop can deliver top performance with minimal noise and no reliability concerns. I don’t know how many loops I’ve constructed (including rebuilds), but none have leaked. Still, the average person would benefit more from a good air cooler.

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Cursed_gaming
Junior Member
4
09-10-2017, 09:21 AM
#19
Lol. And we have a winner. Although you did leave out Patience. In building a pc, patience is a huge virtue, overlooked by so many. They get in a rush to get the pc up and running, anxious to get gaming on their brand new parts. Just taking the time to make sure all tubing ends are correctly de-burred and smooth solves 90% of leaking fittings etc. Too many people think of a pc as a toy to be thrown together and used asap, and not the work of art and labor of love that it should be.
It can take me about ½hr to throw together a basic pc and what you'd get is no better than your average store bought pc, umm yeah, close that lid please. Or I could take a solid week to build the same pc, and have show-worthy appeal. Bring on the RGB! Very few will wait a week...
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Cursed_gaming
09-10-2017, 09:21 AM #19

Lol. And we have a winner. Although you did leave out Patience. In building a pc, patience is a huge virtue, overlooked by so many. They get in a rush to get the pc up and running, anxious to get gaming on their brand new parts. Just taking the time to make sure all tubing ends are correctly de-burred and smooth solves 90% of leaking fittings etc. Too many people think of a pc as a toy to be thrown together and used asap, and not the work of art and labor of love that it should be.
It can take me about ½hr to throw together a basic pc and what you'd get is no better than your average store bought pc, umm yeah, close that lid please. Or I could take a solid week to build the same pc, and have show-worthy appeal. Bring on the RGB! Very few will wait a week...

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TiTansio11
Member
189
09-10-2017, 10:09 AM
#20
for many people, the computer is a tool or appliance.
they just want it to do it's job, like a toaster - nothing wrong with this approach.
But when they do want some cool things in it, they are not always ready to pay the toll of time for research and proper build.
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TiTansio11
09-10-2017, 10:09 AM #20

for many people, the computer is a tool or appliance.
they just want it to do it's job, like a toaster - nothing wrong with this approach.
But when they do want some cool things in it, they are not always ready to pay the toll of time for research and proper build.

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