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Upgrading DSL modem to unlisted devices

Upgrading DSL modem to unlisted devices

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GoldenRMA
Junior Member
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02-07-2016, 09:13 AM
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Here’s a revised version of your message:

Dear everyone,

To give some context, the only method to get a wired internet connection is via a DSL cable. Unfortunately, the ISP’s cable is quite outdated, offering a poor upload speed (around 2Mbps max) and a lot of dropped packets. A few years back we upgraded to two 4G routers, which provided better connectivity but were limited to 150GB per user—insufficient for four heavy users.

I’m curious if it’s possible to use a single 4G router for load balancing to get some reliable internet at times, while still keeping the VDSL connection for unlimited bandwidth. I’d prefer to avoid relying on my ISP’s modem, as it’s problematic and restricts user control. Proximus does offer a list of whitelisted modems, but I’d rather use more consumer-grade devices that aren’t on their list.

My first question: why wouldn’t other equipment work with my ISP? Since they use PPPoE, I assume modems using that protocol should be compatible. (For reference, here’s the list of whitelisted modems: https://www.edpnet.be/en/support/orderin...i-use.html)

My second concern is about connectivity. Most of these devices have a RJ45 port for WAN, but my DSL connection only has an RJ11 port. Can I swap one for the other? Or is there extra processing needed? If yes, would modems recognize this setup despite having fewer pins (6 instead of 8)?

Also, if anyone knows a device that can handle modem, router, and load balancing—brands like Ubiquiti or Netgear might be worth checking. If this combination isn’t available, I’ll explore alternatives.

Thanks for your time!
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GoldenRMA
02-07-2016, 09:13 AM #1

Here’s a revised version of your message:

Dear everyone,

To give some context, the only method to get a wired internet connection is via a DSL cable. Unfortunately, the ISP’s cable is quite outdated, offering a poor upload speed (around 2Mbps max) and a lot of dropped packets. A few years back we upgraded to two 4G routers, which provided better connectivity but were limited to 150GB per user—insufficient for four heavy users.

I’m curious if it’s possible to use a single 4G router for load balancing to get some reliable internet at times, while still keeping the VDSL connection for unlimited bandwidth. I’d prefer to avoid relying on my ISP’s modem, as it’s problematic and restricts user control. Proximus does offer a list of whitelisted modems, but I’d rather use more consumer-grade devices that aren’t on their list.

My first question: why wouldn’t other equipment work with my ISP? Since they use PPPoE, I assume modems using that protocol should be compatible. (For reference, here’s the list of whitelisted modems: https://www.edpnet.be/en/support/orderin...i-use.html)

My second concern is about connectivity. Most of these devices have a RJ45 port for WAN, but my DSL connection only has an RJ11 port. Can I swap one for the other? Or is there extra processing needed? If yes, would modems recognize this setup despite having fewer pins (6 instead of 8)?

Also, if anyone knows a device that can handle modem, router, and load balancing—brands like Ubiquiti or Netgear might be worth checking. If this combination isn’t available, I’ll explore alternatives.

Thanks for your time!

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CookieNinja
Junior Member
34
02-08-2016, 02:35 PM
#2
The modem isn't essential in this case; you should use your own router for load balancing. Avoid pairing a modem with a router setup—they don't work well together. Instead, assign a different wan port to each connection and decide which devices use which port. I tend to prefer simpler setups, but an edge router or MikroTik box can handle it too. Just connect a RJ11 to an RJ45 without needing an adapter. This shouldn't impact you much. You won't need to adjust modem configurations; just ensure traffic goes through your router. Based on what you've checked, it seems a cable provider or Wisp might be a better fit.
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CookieNinja
02-08-2016, 02:35 PM #2

The modem isn't essential in this case; you should use your own router for load balancing. Avoid pairing a modem with a router setup—they don't work well together. Instead, assign a different wan port to each connection and decide which devices use which port. I tend to prefer simpler setups, but an edge router or MikroTik box can handle it too. Just connect a RJ11 to an RJ45 without needing an adapter. This shouldn't impact you much. You won't need to adjust modem configurations; just ensure traffic goes through your router. Based on what you've checked, it seems a cable provider or Wisp might be a better fit.

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MinixElite
Junior Member
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02-12-2016, 11:04 AM
#3
However, if the connected router isn't capable of communicating (such as DSL), then it's ineffective.
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MinixElite
02-12-2016, 11:04 AM #3

However, if the connected router isn't capable of communicating (such as DSL), then it's ineffective.

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Ako2004
Junior Member
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02-12-2016, 03:40 PM
#4
Electric Wizardy and Lurick here for quick help! Recent research suggests my ISP needs modems that use vectoring—essentially a noise-canceling method on DSL lines to reduce interference. I’m looking for models that support vectoring and VDSL2(+) protocol. I’ll keep searching, but I worry about getting a device that’s been blocked. If you have any recommendations, feel free to share! Once I find them, I’ll connect them to a reliable main router, just like Electric Wizardry advised. Thanks in advance for your support!
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Ako2004
02-12-2016, 03:40 PM #4

Electric Wizardy and Lurick here for quick help! Recent research suggests my ISP needs modems that use vectoring—essentially a noise-canceling method on DSL lines to reduce interference. I’m looking for models that support vectoring and VDSL2(+) protocol. I’ll keep searching, but I worry about getting a device that’s been blocked. If you have any recommendations, feel free to share! Once I find them, I’ll connect them to a reliable main router, just like Electric Wizardry advised. Thanks in advance for your support!