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upgrade to a 4790k model

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WaZa178
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03-19-2020, 10:01 AM
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you're considering a gaming PC upgrade in Canada. you're weighing between a 5600x ($279) and a 12400f ($219), both offering strong value. your current setup has a 6800x graphics card and you plan to play at 1440p resolution.
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WaZa178
03-19-2020, 10:01 AM #1

you're considering a gaming PC upgrade in Canada. you're weighing between a 5600x ($279) and a 12400f ($219), both offering strong value. your current setup has a 6800x graphics card and you plan to play at 1440p resolution.

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ChrisM1601
Junior Member
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03-20-2020, 08:44 AM
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I’d choose the Alder Lake option. It offers quicker single-threaded speeds, especially for gaming purposes. My take.
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ChrisM1601
03-20-2020, 08:44 AM #2

I’d choose the Alder Lake option. It offers quicker single-threaded speeds, especially for gaming purposes. My take.

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coolboy62008
Junior Member
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03-20-2020, 09:18 AM
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Both models sit close together in accuracy, exchanging positions frequently. Go for the more affordable option—Alder Lake is a better bet since it’s still functional.
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coolboy62008
03-20-2020, 09:18 AM #3

Both models sit close together in accuracy, exchanging positions frequently. Go for the more affordable option—Alder Lake is a better bet since it’s still functional.

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Lewiswilson4
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03-20-2020, 11:56 PM
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It's cheaper to go with 5600 non x, you can boost its speed and cut costs by $20 for a better motherboard. In terms of performance, it's quite similar.
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Lewiswilson4
03-20-2020, 11:56 PM #4

It's cheaper to go with 5600 non x, you can boost its speed and cut costs by $20 for a better motherboard. In terms of performance, it's quite similar.

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warningitsben
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03-22-2020, 02:20 AM
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Intel's socket design is quite limited, with around 30 options currently. AMD uses AM4 and newer variants. While AM4 is likely to become obsolete, the future compatibility of newer sockets remains uncertain. It might be wise to monitor updates for the upcoming Zen4 socket.
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warningitsben
03-22-2020, 02:20 AM #5

Intel's socket design is quite limited, with around 30 options currently. AMD uses AM4 and newer variants. While AM4 is likely to become obsolete, the future compatibility of newer sockets remains uncertain. It might be wise to monitor updates for the upcoming Zen4 socket.

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03-28-2020, 04:02 PM
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It still has another generation on it, that much has been confirmed by Intel. AM4 has no more CPUs being released for it. Going Zen 4 is an option, yes, but we're still 3-6 months away which is more than a lot of people are willing to wait, plus then you'll likely have to deal with early teething issues on AM5. If you're coming from a 4790K I would not feel bad about going 12400(F) today, especially since you will be able to go up to something like the 13900(K) if you want to upgrade down the road without changing the board out. Yes it's not as good as AMD, but the first year of boards on an AMD socket usually doesn't get great support anyway. You've said you've been burned by Intel before, I've been burned by AMD just the same way. I adopted X370 very early on with an MSI X370 SLI Plus and a R7 1700. That board didn't get support for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series) until the Ryzen 5000 series had been released for a month or two, meaning that when I wanted to upgrade to something better, I had to get a new board anyway. AMD has the better track record with supporting motherboards, yes, but that doesn't mean that they don't have their problems trying to get those boards to support everything, and while they might eventually get support for all the CPUs, it's still down to the board vendor how well that's gonna go. You might get lucky with a vendor that puts in support for the new chips that only might be supported (X370 was never guaranteed to get Ryzen 3000 series support, it was just said that it could) pretty quickly, or you could get shafted and have to buy a new board anyway, and there really isn't a way to tell which is gonna happen. I'm not saying Intel is perfect, hell no, I still prefer AMD's system since you get more boards that work with more CPUs, it just that the boards are only guaranteed 1 generation after release and should realistically be treated as such, with everything after the 2 generations being hit or miss depending on how your board vendor feels that day and should be treated as extra.
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DapperEnderman
03-28-2020, 04:02 PM #6

It still has another generation on it, that much has been confirmed by Intel. AM4 has no more CPUs being released for it. Going Zen 4 is an option, yes, but we're still 3-6 months away which is more than a lot of people are willing to wait, plus then you'll likely have to deal with early teething issues on AM5. If you're coming from a 4790K I would not feel bad about going 12400(F) today, especially since you will be able to go up to something like the 13900(K) if you want to upgrade down the road without changing the board out. Yes it's not as good as AMD, but the first year of boards on an AMD socket usually doesn't get great support anyway. You've said you've been burned by Intel before, I've been burned by AMD just the same way. I adopted X370 very early on with an MSI X370 SLI Plus and a R7 1700. That board didn't get support for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series) until the Ryzen 5000 series had been released for a month or two, meaning that when I wanted to upgrade to something better, I had to get a new board anyway. AMD has the better track record with supporting motherboards, yes, but that doesn't mean that they don't have their problems trying to get those boards to support everything, and while they might eventually get support for all the CPUs, it's still down to the board vendor how well that's gonna go. You might get lucky with a vendor that puts in support for the new chips that only might be supported (X370 was never guaranteed to get Ryzen 3000 series support, it was just said that it could) pretty quickly, or you could get shafted and have to buy a new board anyway, and there really isn't a way to tell which is gonna happen. I'm not saying Intel is perfect, hell no, I still prefer AMD's system since you get more boards that work with more CPUs, it just that the boards are only guaranteed 1 generation after release and should realistically be treated as such, with everything after the 2 generations being hit or miss depending on how your board vendor feels that day and should be treated as extra.

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MasMenno
Member
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03-30-2020, 06:25 PM
#7
Zen 4 supports only DDR5, which is significantly more expensive than DDR4 today. Even if prices drop when Zen 4 launches, it will likely remain far higher than DDR4 rates, especially for non-disposable builds.
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MasMenno
03-30-2020, 06:25 PM #7

Zen 4 supports only DDR5, which is significantly more expensive than DDR4 today. Even if prices drop when Zen 4 launches, it will likely remain far higher than DDR4 rates, especially for non-disposable builds.

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Procrafter2
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03-30-2020, 10:27 PM
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Thanks everyone, I’m going with the MSI B660 Pro A and the 12400F right now. The next phase will be searching for RAM. Thanks again!
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Procrafter2
03-30-2020, 10:27 PM #8

Thanks everyone, I’m going with the MSI B660 Pro A and the 12400F right now. The next phase will be searching for RAM. Thanks again!