Upgrade the i5-3570K to an i3-8350K or a compatible alternative.
Upgrade the i5-3570K to an i3-8350K or a compatible alternative.
Hello! I currently use a 3570k processor running at 4.49ghz, which stays stable even in air cooling and between 60-70°C during gaming. I’m considering an upgrade path that allows gradual improvements. I’ve been exploring Z390 chipset options, the 8350k, and 2666MHz DDR4 memory, but even the 8350k can’t take full advantage of the higher speeds. I’m thinking about upgrading the CPU later. Are there other possibilities I should consider? As someone who prefers Intel, I’ve noticed that switching to AMD often required a quick upgrade—usually within a year—because of reliability issues. I’m skeptical about Ryzen 5 being more stable, though I’m curious if it could work for me. The higher memory speed might help, but I want to be sure it’s worth the investment.
I never required it—I just gave it up, sold it for a loss, and kept moving forward.
It won't be from AMD, so I'm not looking for any recommendations in that direction. I started with three AMD systems ranging from the K6 MM2 to A9. (The A9 was a laptop, and the i5 model was sold out; my friend had the i5, but mine on A9 barely worked except for Notepad.) It has to be from generation 8 or 9, because there aren't any older models available second-hand here.
B460 + i3-10100/i5-10400 offers excellent value considering the limited lower-end Ryzen options at their MSRP. Even with 2666mhz RAM, its performance matches that of Ryzen 3 3100/5 3600 in gaming, and it doesn’t significantly differ in professional tasks since neither is ideal for serious work. Avoid the 8350k and opt for the 10100 instead. Although overclocking isn’t possible like with the 8350k, this chip reaches a 4.1ghz boost across all cores, surpassing the stock settings of the 8350k. It also supports hyperthreading. The i3-10100 is a solid choice for around $115, as it’s a real product rather than just a concept.
The 10400 is indeed secured. I’m leaning toward enabling overclocking. It seems unnecessary at the moment because this upgrade will only be needed until the pandemic ends and I relocate. I’m quite satisfied with the performance of my 3570k, but achieving around 100fps in games like PUBG with a GTX980 would require my CPU to stay at 95-100% usage constantly—no room for error.
Yeah, but to be real, 8350k doesn't have great silicon from personal experience. I got one for my son with an ASROCK Z370 Extreme 4, which was expensive for what it was, just so I could overclock. My sample required 1.35v to hit 4.7ghz, 1.4v to hit 4.8ghz, 1.42v to get 4.9ghz, and 1.44v to get 5ghz. So ultimately I ended up getting an i5-9400 cheap to put into the Z390 and putting the i3-8350k into an H310 for my daughter. It runs at 4ghz all day and it's perfectly fine. The i3-8350k just isn't really worth spending the extra money to overclock for the gains. In order to get meaningful gains (4.7-5ghz) you are looking at a lot of voltage and a lot of cooling $$. Just not worth the ROI. If I could do it all over I would have just got him the 8400 and a B360 motherboard. And then I would have got my daughter a Ryzen system a year ago instead of using the i3 with a cheap H310. For the most part, you will get better overall performance from a locked i3-10100 or i5-10400 (even with only 2666mhz RAM) for less money (cheaper cooler, cheaper motherboard). These chips run around 4.0-4.1ghz all-core turbo. You can use faster memory than intel spec on locked intel chips, but you need a Z board. There's an argument for pairing them together, but once you start spending more money on the motherboard, you tend to lose the value sentiment a bit. Right now, you can get an i3-10100 for $115 and a $65-85 H410/B460 motherboard that will be perfectly fine. In contrast, you will be spending $150+ on an i3-8350k, at least $40 on a decent cooler, and around $100 for a Z motherboard that will be sufficient to overclock. That's already $290. For around that same money, you could instead get an i5-10400F ($170-) + a $120 B460 motherboard. You are going from a 4.0-4.8ghz 4 core, 4 threaded CPU to a 4.0ghz 6 core, 12 threaded CPU. In most new games, the higher core/thread count CPU is going to give you a much better experience than one that has slightly more frequency. Same goes for the i3-10100, except it's cheaper. I just purchased these for another system for leftover parts to use in the living room, and I am awaiting them in the mail. $115 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-10100-De...B086MMRW87 $65 https://www.amazon.com/H410M-HDV-M-2-Sup...B088ZVZ8Q4 My expectation is that with the i3, it should be able to sustain 4.1ghz most of the time. https://www.techspot.com/review/2033-int...-i3-10100/ It's just inadvisable to get a 4/4 chip today. Even the i3-10100 is pushing it, but at least it's super cheap and currently has no Ryzen alternative (by virtue of the 3100 being a myth). For $180, the i3-10100 and H410 will beat the stock 8350k at pretty much everything, and beat a highly overclocked 8350k in almost everything save for poorly optimized or esports games. And in those scenarios, it won't lose by much.
It doesn't make sense to downgrade to another 4C/4T CPU that won't handle everything the 3570K can. Wait until you can afford an upgrade to a 11600K or 11700K all at once.