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Unable to reach public IPv4 addresses on the local network (complex issue)

Unable to reach public IPv4 addresses on the local network (complex issue)

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Rad_ish
Junior Member
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04-10-2023, 07:40 PM
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Hey everyone, the topic might seem easy, but it really surprised me and I need some help. My setup includes a local server that I can reach using its IP address. I've also created a domain with DNS to connect to my server over the internet. It functions well when I'm not connected to my local network. The unusual part is that I can partially access my server through my domain in my local network. Only small data transfers work, but large ones cause my router to crash. For instance, using Nextcloud, backing up contacts and videos (about 30MB) causes my router to fail at 10-20%. I also noticed I can't ping my public IP addresses. Recently, I spoke with my internet provider (UnityMedia Germany) who said it's not possible to reach my public IPv4 address because the router can't handle it and thinks it's an attack. They insisted this isn't feasible at all. This seems pretty strange to me. My question is: Can you really ping your own IPv4 address from your local network? Are there any internet providers that allow this? Or is their equipment just unreliable? Thanks in advance for your responses, Matze.
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Rad_ish
04-10-2023, 07:40 PM #1

Hey everyone, the topic might seem easy, but it really surprised me and I need some help. My setup includes a local server that I can reach using its IP address. I've also created a domain with DNS to connect to my server over the internet. It functions well when I'm not connected to my local network. The unusual part is that I can partially access my server through my domain in my local network. Only small data transfers work, but large ones cause my router to crash. For instance, using Nextcloud, backing up contacts and videos (about 30MB) causes my router to fail at 10-20%. I also noticed I can't ping my public IP addresses. Recently, I spoke with my internet provider (UnityMedia Germany) who said it's not possible to reach my public IPv4 address because the router can't handle it and thinks it's an attack. They insisted this isn't feasible at all. This seems pretty strange to me. My question is: Can you really ping your own IPv4 address from your local network? Are there any internet providers that allow this? Or is their equipment just unreliable? Thanks in advance for your responses, Matze.

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David11345678
Junior Member
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04-11-2023, 08:46 PM
#2
I think what you're aiming for is known as NAT Loopback.
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David11345678
04-11-2023, 08:46 PM #2

I think what you're aiming for is known as NAT Loopback.

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Melvzster
Junior Member
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04-11-2023, 10:39 PM
#3
Your router is just shit, simple as that. There is no reason why you couldn't ping your public IP from within your local network other than whatever your router has been configured to do. You could replace it with a better one. pfSense is a really great router OS, if you're willing to build your own and learn a little on how IP-networking works.
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Melvzster
04-11-2023, 10:39 PM #3

Your router is just shit, simple as that. There is no reason why you couldn't ping your public IP from within your local network other than whatever your router has been configured to do. You could replace it with a better one. pfSense is a really great router OS, if you're willing to build your own and learn a little on how IP-networking works.

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BBALLBriley
Junior Member
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04-11-2023, 10:49 PM
#4
Yes, it seems like the issue might be related to hardware.
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BBALLBriley
04-11-2023, 10:49 PM #4

Yes, it seems like the issue might be related to hardware.

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sonic3003
Member
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04-12-2023, 04:30 PM
#5
It's referred to as hairpinning or NAT loopback, as @Levent mentioned—it doesn't relate to the router malfunctioning. It's typically disabled by default since it tends to create more issues than benefits in about 99% of situations. Many companies view it as a security concern as well.
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sonic3003
04-12-2023, 04:30 PM #5

It's referred to as hairpinning or NAT loopback, as @Levent mentioned—it doesn't relate to the router malfunctioning. It's typically disabled by default since it tends to create more issues than benefits in about 99% of situations. Many companies view it as a security concern as well.

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DragonKing0988
Junior Member
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04-12-2023, 10:52 PM
#6
I thought something similar. Yeah, thank you all for your fast responses. Now I'm searching for a new router.
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DragonKing0988
04-12-2023, 10:52 PM #6

I thought something similar. Yeah, thank you all for your fast responses. Now I'm searching for a new router.

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KingQbert
Member
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04-14-2023, 01:42 PM
#7
I think a router is inadequate if its settings can't be adjusted, though it's fine—I'll reword my thoughts.
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KingQbert
04-14-2023, 01:42 PM #7

I think a router is inadequate if its settings can't be adjusted, though it's fine—I'll reword my thoughts.

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majorpain96
Junior Member
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04-15-2023, 01:59 PM
#8
No device currently offers NAT loopback support; it remains a complex issue with limited practical solutions.
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majorpain96
04-15-2023, 01:59 PM #8

No device currently offers NAT loopback support; it remains a complex issue with limited practical solutions.

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NervousDemon
Member
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04-15-2023, 09:58 PM
#9
Looking for a budget router that works this way can be tricky. The main concern is why exposing such a security issue affects so many people who don’t actually need it.
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NervousDemon
04-15-2023, 09:58 PM #9

Looking for a budget router that works this way can be tricky. The main concern is why exposing such a security issue affects so many people who don’t actually need it.

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max_10011
Junior Member
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04-16-2023, 02:42 AM
#10
Many options are available on routers, but they’re often concealed under "advanced" or "expert" menus.
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max_10011
04-16-2023, 02:42 AM #10

Many options are available on routers, but they’re often concealed under "advanced" or "expert" menus.

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