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"Turbo boost" on old CPUs ?

"Turbo boost" on old CPUs ?

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gymclo6
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02-05-2016, 11:25 AM
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I'm searching for tools that can adjust power usage based on workload, especially for older CPUs that usually run at one speed. You want limits that act like PL1 for low power and PL2 for normal power. Does such a solution exist?
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gymclo6
02-05-2016, 11:25 AM #1

I'm searching for tools that can adjust power usage based on workload, especially for older CPUs that usually run at one speed. You want limits that act like PL1 for low power and PL2 for normal power. Does such a solution exist?

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Santonite
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02-11-2016, 07:38 PM
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It seems there was no clear question to address. Could you clarify what you're asking about?
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Santonite
02-11-2016, 07:38 PM #2

It seems there was no clear question to address. Could you clarify what you're asking about?

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gdog557
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02-11-2016, 09:20 PM
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Which processor are we discussing? They slow down to a fixed minimum clock rate for optimal efficiency when top performance isn't required. This keeps it running as efficiently as possible at its default speed. To restrict the maximum turbo in Windows, you can adjust the CPU performance limit in power settings by setting a percentage cap.
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gdog557
02-11-2016, 09:20 PM #3

Which processor are we discussing? They slow down to a fixed minimum clock rate for optimal efficiency when top performance isn't required. This keeps it running as efficiently as possible at its default speed. To restrict the maximum turbo in Windows, you can adjust the CPU performance limit in power settings by setting a percentage cap.

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Xelo24
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03-01-2016, 06:51 PM
#4
They can also configure the CPU's minimum power to 0%, which is beneficial when it's idle.
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Xelo24
03-01-2016, 06:51 PM #4

They can also configure the CPU's minimum power to 0%, which is beneficial when it's idle.

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War_Car
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03-02-2016, 01:13 AM
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@thekingofmonks ThrottleStop helps control the energy usage of many Intel Core I processors when the BIOS allows it. Most 4th generation and older CPUs are restricted. Which one do you own? Intel chips switch to low-power modes such as C7 to conserve energy. Reducing speed actually harms performance, not improves it.
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War_Car
03-02-2016, 01:13 AM #5

@thekingofmonks ThrottleStop helps control the energy usage of many Intel Core I processors when the BIOS allows it. Most 4th generation and older CPUs are restricted. Which one do you own? Intel chips switch to low-power modes such as C7 to conserve energy. Reducing speed actually harms performance, not improves it.

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Saintrow9345
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03-02-2016, 08:53 AM
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Referring to past processors prior to speedstep development, such as the Netburst or Northwood lines.
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Saintrow9345
03-02-2016, 08:53 AM #6

Referring to past processors prior to speedstep development, such as the Netburst or Northwood lines.

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AcidixBlitzHD
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03-07-2016, 10:56 AM
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Speedstep and long power usage both put a strain on the CPU, potentially affecting its performance over time.
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AcidixBlitzHD
03-07-2016, 10:56 AM #7

Speedstep and long power usage both put a strain on the CPU, potentially affecting its performance over time.

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TommyTheLommy
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03-07-2016, 11:06 AM
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If earlier CPU models had SpeedStep technology, then according to my understanding, software can't fix this problem. That's a hardware restriction below the operating system. Devices like Intel XTU can limit CPU speeds within Windows, making it feasible for advanced root-level software to adjust them. But if the CPU lacks the capability to share that control with the OS, then the only option seems to be adjusting the motherboard BIOS settings—typically requiring a reboot afterward—to change the clock speed, whether up or down. As far as I'm aware, for these older chips you generally need to restart the system after modifying BIOS parameters to alter the speeds.
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TommyTheLommy
03-07-2016, 11:06 AM #8

If earlier CPU models had SpeedStep technology, then according to my understanding, software can't fix this problem. That's a hardware restriction below the operating system. Devices like Intel XTU can limit CPU speeds within Windows, making it feasible for advanced root-level software to adjust them. But if the CPU lacks the capability to share that control with the OS, then the only option seems to be adjusting the motherboard BIOS settings—typically requiring a reboot afterward—to change the clock speed, whether up or down. As far as I'm aware, for these older chips you generally need to restart the system after modifying BIOS parameters to alter the speeds.

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ReborntoKill
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03-07-2016, 02:46 PM
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You'd need a fixed clock and voltage source.
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ReborntoKill
03-07-2016, 02:46 PM #9

You'd need a fixed clock and voltage source.

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puffyshadow8
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03-08-2016, 08:41 PM
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I hadn't thought about how old your interest in CPUs really was. SpeedStep was meant to reduce CPU speed when it wasn’t heavily used. Today’s Core i CPUs rely on low-power states for most energy savings. Using SpeedStep to slow things down lost relevance after the C7 low-power mode appeared in the first generation of Core i chips. Here’s a look at the same chip running at 5000 MHz versus 800 MHz. The variation in power use when idle, fast or slow didn’t matter much. https://imgur.com/IhCzWUp It’s unlikely you’ll find programs that support those older processors. You might try RW Everything and attempt to adjust multiplier settings into MSR 0x199. I’m not sure if that register existed back then. Early Intel chips didn’t track power usage data (PL1 and PL2). Power limits began with the first Core i generation, and PL1/PL2 limits started in the second. Intel still uses this approach in the 14th generation. For better efficiency, opt for a modern CPU—new designs are vastly more effective than those from two decades ago.
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puffyshadow8
03-08-2016, 08:41 PM #10

I hadn't thought about how old your interest in CPUs really was. SpeedStep was meant to reduce CPU speed when it wasn’t heavily used. Today’s Core i CPUs rely on low-power states for most energy savings. Using SpeedStep to slow things down lost relevance after the C7 low-power mode appeared in the first generation of Core i chips. Here’s a look at the same chip running at 5000 MHz versus 800 MHz. The variation in power use when idle, fast or slow didn’t matter much. https://imgur.com/IhCzWUp It’s unlikely you’ll find programs that support those older processors. You might try RW Everything and attempt to adjust multiplier settings into MSR 0x199. I’m not sure if that register existed back then. Early Intel chips didn’t track power usage data (PL1 and PL2). Power limits began with the first Core i generation, and PL1/PL2 limits started in the second. Intel still uses this approach in the 14th generation. For better efficiency, opt for a modern CPU—new designs are vastly more effective than those from two decades ago.