F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Trapped in a repetitive cycle. Every component has been updated.

Trapped in a repetitive cycle. Every component has been updated.

Trapped in a repetitive cycle. Every component has been updated.

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Roseybunny7
Junior Member
14
10-26-2020, 02:18 PM
#1
Hi all, I'm really hoping someone may have the answer for me, as I'm pulling my hair out here. A while ago I was using my PC and it crashed. Then when I tried to restart it, it the fans would start to spin up, but only at a very low RPM (not as fast as usual), the rgb would come one, but I do not get any video output. It's not booting. I tried an alternate PSU and that didn't do it, same problem. I then tied other Ram, but it was ddr3 that was not compatible with my board. I didn't know this at the time. This led me to believe it was either the CPU or MOBO. So I then replaced the CPU to see if it was that, but still same issue. Then I replaced the Mobo and was confident this would be it. Nope same issue. Now I was really pulling my hair out, did some more research and found out that I the DDR3 I tried would not have been compatible with my board. So bought new DDR4. Replaced it, and couldn't believe my eyes when I still had the same issue. I essentially have a new PC with these 3 components, and somehow the issue has carried over to it. I'm really stuck with what to do, I've been fixing and building computers for the last 10 years so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing, but this has stumped me. Please send help. Ryzen 3700x & 5600x 2x Aorus pro wifi x570 mitx 2 x Corsair vengeance RGB pro 16gb 3600 750w gold PSU. Can't remember what make. I do have a 5700xt but this is not the issue as it's not in when I've been trying the new parts. I have also tried with it in as well at all stages of new parts.
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Roseybunny7
10-26-2020, 02:18 PM #1

Hi all, I'm really hoping someone may have the answer for me, as I'm pulling my hair out here. A while ago I was using my PC and it crashed. Then when I tried to restart it, it the fans would start to spin up, but only at a very low RPM (not as fast as usual), the rgb would come one, but I do not get any video output. It's not booting. I tried an alternate PSU and that didn't do it, same problem. I then tied other Ram, but it was ddr3 that was not compatible with my board. I didn't know this at the time. This led me to believe it was either the CPU or MOBO. So I then replaced the CPU to see if it was that, but still same issue. Then I replaced the Mobo and was confident this would be it. Nope same issue. Now I was really pulling my hair out, did some more research and found out that I the DDR3 I tried would not have been compatible with my board. So bought new DDR4. Replaced it, and couldn't believe my eyes when I still had the same issue. I essentially have a new PC with these 3 components, and somehow the issue has carried over to it. I'm really stuck with what to do, I've been fixing and building computers for the last 10 years so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing, but this has stumped me. Please send help. Ryzen 3700x & 5600x 2x Aorus pro wifi x570 mitx 2 x Corsair vengeance RGB pro 16gb 3600 750w gold PSU. Can't remember what make. I do have a 5700xt but this is not the issue as it's not in when I've been trying the new parts. I have also tried with it in as well at all stages of new parts.

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DangoBravo
Posting Freak
821
10-26-2020, 07:45 PM
#2
The title seems questionable, possibly misleading or related to a technical issue. In the details, a power supply unit, memory, and CPU aren’t enough to build a new machine. Notably, the motherboard—containing many components—is missing from the list. This makes the motherboard the most likely hardware problem after the PSU. My initial guess points toward software, especially the BIOS. The system would need roughly a 650-watt PSU to function properly. I’m unsure if you have that capacity. Possible steps: verify your PSU meets the recommended wattage and reset CMOS. If that fails, consider a BIOS flash from a fresh source. If unsuccessful, the motherboard might require an off-board BIOS update via USB. This feature is common in Ryzen systems but not all boards support it. Updated October 1, 2022 by Bombastinator
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DangoBravo
10-26-2020, 07:45 PM #2

The title seems questionable, possibly misleading or related to a technical issue. In the details, a power supply unit, memory, and CPU aren’t enough to build a new machine. Notably, the motherboard—containing many components—is missing from the list. This makes the motherboard the most likely hardware problem after the PSU. My initial guess points toward software, especially the BIOS. The system would need roughly a 650-watt PSU to function properly. I’m unsure if you have that capacity. Possible steps: verify your PSU meets the recommended wattage and reset CMOS. If that fails, consider a BIOS flash from a fresh source. If unsuccessful, the motherboard might require an off-board BIOS update via USB. This feature is common in Ryzen systems but not all boards support it. Updated October 1, 2022 by Bombastinator

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MatthewRyan67
Junior Member
46
10-31-2020, 08:03 AM
#3
So, I have just tried a known working PSU and still nothing. I have also tested my PSU on another system and it works. I have tried to flash my bios over the weekend, but I'm not getting any feedback from the board. There should be a les that flashes if bios is being flashed successfully, but doesn't come one. When powered on fans start to spin but absolutely zero video output. Video cable is known good as well as monitor. I have replaced CPU, MOBO and RAM. Not at the same time, but in that order. Is it possible that because all parts weren't replaced at the same time, the issue has carried over to one of the parts? Seems unheard of to me. Or is it possible that something was DOA. I have absolutely no idea how to fix this, without actually taking it to someone with spare parts to try everything out. If anyone has any ideas they would be greatly appreciated. CPU - R7 3700X & R5 5600X MOBO- AORUS PRO WIFI X570 MITX RAM- CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3600 PSU - EVGA 750 GOLD PLUS MODULAR
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MatthewRyan67
10-31-2020, 08:03 AM #3

So, I have just tried a known working PSU and still nothing. I have also tested my PSU on another system and it works. I have tried to flash my bios over the weekend, but I'm not getting any feedback from the board. There should be a les that flashes if bios is being flashed successfully, but doesn't come one. When powered on fans start to spin but absolutely zero video output. Video cable is known good as well as monitor. I have replaced CPU, MOBO and RAM. Not at the same time, but in that order. Is it possible that because all parts weren't replaced at the same time, the issue has carried over to one of the parts? Seems unheard of to me. Or is it possible that something was DOA. I have absolutely no idea how to fix this, without actually taking it to someone with spare parts to try everything out. If anyone has any ideas they would be greatly appreciated. CPU - R7 3700X & R5 5600X MOBO- AORUS PRO WIFI X570 MITX RAM- CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3600 PSU - EVGA 750 GOLD PLUS MODULAR

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Amtrak10
Senior Member
639
10-31-2020, 09:11 AM
#4
Alternatively, you can use a Linux liveCD setup where all drives are removed so the system can’t detect them, then attempt to boot from a bootable USB. If the BIOS is involved, it may not help, but it could still be worth investigating. The power supply unit is often irrelevant in this scenario. There might be issues with your thumb drive if you tried to flash it, though that’s unlikely. Updated October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator
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Amtrak10
10-31-2020, 09:11 AM #4

Alternatively, you can use a Linux liveCD setup where all drives are removed so the system can’t detect them, then attempt to boot from a bootable USB. If the BIOS is involved, it may not help, but it could still be worth investigating. The power supply unit is often irrelevant in this scenario. There might be issues with your thumb drive if you tried to flash it, though that’s unlikely. Updated October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator

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XXXDemonX01
Junior Member
49
10-31-2020, 04:10 PM
#5
Did your processor come pre-installed? Which connection point did you use for the USB device? And which name was used for the BIOS configuration file?
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XXXDemonX01
10-31-2020, 04:10 PM #5

Did your processor come pre-installed? Which connection point did you use for the USB device? And which name was used for the BIOS configuration file?

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twan477
Junior Member
17
10-31-2020, 05:52 PM
#6
It appears the person is observing your flash process. I lack sufficient knowledge to offer any insights. The gnome you see has a thick beard and a notably sharp hat.
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twan477
10-31-2020, 05:52 PM #6

It appears the person is observing your flash process. I lack sufficient knowledge to offer any insights. The gnome you see has a thick beard and a notably sharp hat.

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Petty_
Junior Member
19
11-01-2020, 02:00 AM
#7
Sure, here you go.
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Petty_
11-01-2020, 02:00 AM #7

Sure, here you go.

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GMB_01
Member
231
11-01-2020, 07:43 AM
#8
Interesting points about thumb drive setup. Large drives typically use exFAT but can be converted to other formats. It’s conceivable the device only supports FAT, though that seems rare now. Devices that handle exFAT often also read FAT, but they may limit compatibility for simplicity. ExFAT support usually requires a particular setup. Updated October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator
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GMB_01
11-01-2020, 07:43 AM #8

Interesting points about thumb drive setup. Large drives typically use exFAT but can be converted to other formats. It’s conceivable the device only supports FAT, though that seems rare now. Devices that handle exFAT often also read FAT, but they may limit compatibility for simplicity. ExFAT support usually requires a particular setup. Updated October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator

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ReD_T1000
Member
168
11-01-2020, 09:15 AM
#9
It's very probable. I wasn't aware I omitted the initial sequence of instructions.
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ReD_T1000
11-01-2020, 09:15 AM #9

It's very probable. I wasn't aware I omitted the initial sequence of instructions.

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robbie172
Member
63
11-02-2020, 10:36 PM
#10
Ugh, FAT has a very limited maximum address space. It's a 32-bit format. Likely most modern thumb drives aren't available anymore in that format and are old. Windows can still create FAT-formatted files if you ask for it. Be prepared the drive will shrink significantly if you pay for it or not. Edited October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator
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robbie172
11-02-2020, 10:36 PM #10

Ugh, FAT has a very limited maximum address space. It's a 32-bit format. Likely most modern thumb drives aren't available anymore in that format and are old. Windows can still create FAT-formatted files if you ask for it. Be prepared the drive will shrink significantly if you pay for it or not. Edited October 3, 2022 by Bombastinator

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