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Transferring SK hynix SC 308 clone to Samsung 980

Transferring SK hynix SC 308 clone to Samsung 980

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_ThePlay
Member
103
06-09-2016, 05:20 AM
#1
Dell Latitude 5580 laptop running Windows 10 with SK hynix SC 308 SATA 256 GB drive. Only one SSD slot available. Intention to clone to Samsung 980 Pro, 500 GB. I understand it will be upgraded to Gen 3 and won’t function as Gen 4, that’s acceptable. I possess the correct M.2 NVMe to USB enclosure – hopefully. More I read, the more uncertain I become. Some guidelines insist I must insert the new SSD into the device as the target, while the old one stays as source and gets cloned onto an external drive via USB. Otherwise, the new SSD won’t boot once inserted. Other directions suggest the opposite: the old SSD stays in the laptop as the original source and the new SSD is connected externally through USB. Is this a specific quirk of the cloning software or a general rule? I’d like to use cloning software that allows me to connect the new SSD as an external target over USB. Meanwhile, I’m curious about whether the laptop built in November 2017 supports NVMe drivers and any other newer requirements.
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_ThePlay
06-09-2016, 05:20 AM #1

Dell Latitude 5580 laptop running Windows 10 with SK hynix SC 308 SATA 256 GB drive. Only one SSD slot available. Intention to clone to Samsung 980 Pro, 500 GB. I understand it will be upgraded to Gen 3 and won’t function as Gen 4, that’s acceptable. I possess the correct M.2 NVMe to USB enclosure – hopefully. More I read, the more uncertain I become. Some guidelines insist I must insert the new SSD into the device as the target, while the old one stays as source and gets cloned onto an external drive via USB. Otherwise, the new SSD won’t boot once inserted. Other directions suggest the opposite: the old SSD stays in the laptop as the original source and the new SSD is connected externally through USB. Is this a specific quirk of the cloning software or a general rule? I’d like to use cloning software that allows me to connect the new SSD as an external target over USB. Meanwhile, I’m curious about whether the laptop built in November 2017 supports NVMe drivers and any other newer requirements.

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Bring_It
Senior Member
423
06-09-2016, 11:57 AM
#2
an alternative approach could involve using a bigger SATA III SSD and duplicating the current storage device to it internally.
you won’t experience any performance boost by employing the M.2 drive connected through USB.
it might even lead to slower startup times and reduced disk speed.
focus on Samsung Magician cloning guides instead, avoid relying on user-made DIY projects or YouTube tutorials for different software.
without the original disk still recognized as the boot device, you won’t be able to load Windows or use the cloning tool.
the process should work like this:
attach a blank USB drive, then use Samsung Magician to clone the entire existing OS drive onto it.
this will transfer all system and boot partitions to the new drive.
after that, power off and remove the old drive.
next, adjust the boot priority in BIOS and instruct the system to start from the USB device.
from this point, Windows should launch from the new disk.
you might need to modify Windows Power Plan settings to ensure continuous power to the USB ports.
otherwise, the system could shut down the disk during power-saving operations.
this detail may not be crucial because data transfer rates depend on the USB port rather than the PCIe lanes.
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Bring_It
06-09-2016, 11:57 AM #2

an alternative approach could involve using a bigger SATA III SSD and duplicating the current storage device to it internally.
you won’t experience any performance boost by employing the M.2 drive connected through USB.
it might even lead to slower startup times and reduced disk speed.
focus on Samsung Magician cloning guides instead, avoid relying on user-made DIY projects or YouTube tutorials for different software.
without the original disk still recognized as the boot device, you won’t be able to load Windows or use the cloning tool.
the process should work like this:
attach a blank USB drive, then use Samsung Magician to clone the entire existing OS drive onto it.
this will transfer all system and boot partitions to the new drive.
after that, power off and remove the old drive.
next, adjust the boot priority in BIOS and instruct the system to start from the USB device.
from this point, Windows should launch from the new disk.
you might need to modify Windows Power Plan settings to ensure continuous power to the USB ports.
otherwise, the system could shut down the disk during power-saving operations.
this detail may not be crucial because data transfer rates depend on the USB port rather than the PCIe lanes.

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Fr3akyZero
Member
118
06-09-2016, 06:17 PM
#3
There are several ways to approach this.
Does the system support connecting both drives simultaneously?
If not, do you have a USB connected drive with enough capacity to store the data from the current C drive?
Any type would work.
What is the storage usage on the existing drive?
And why is the 980 Pro chosen?
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Fr3akyZero
06-09-2016, 06:17 PM #3

There are several ways to approach this.
Does the system support connecting both drives simultaneously?
If not, do you have a USB connected drive with enough capacity to store the data from the current C drive?
Any type would work.
What is the storage usage on the existing drive?
And why is the 980 Pro chosen?

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CesaruGM
Junior Member
42
06-10-2016, 03:08 PM
#4
NO, only one SSD slot is available.
I don’t have access to another sufficiently large USB drive.
You seem to be suggesting writing an image, using an external boot rescue (like Acronis, etc.), and then installing the image onto the new Samsung. That would be preferable.
The existing 256 Hynix used about 80 GB.
It’s time to replace it before the current SSD failed. It’s been five years.
Although CrystalDisk shows 86%, I’d rather be safe.
I recently got another SSD that went bad, and there was a great Amazon Prime Day deal I couldn’t pass up.
I thought my original question was straightforward regarding the conflicting information I found.
Cloning drives used to be much easier.
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CesaruGM
06-10-2016, 03:08 PM #4

NO, only one SSD slot is available.
I don’t have access to another sufficiently large USB drive.
You seem to be suggesting writing an image, using an external boot rescue (like Acronis, etc.), and then installing the image onto the new Samsung. That would be preferable.
The existing 256 Hynix used about 80 GB.
It’s time to replace it before the current SSD failed. It’s been five years.
Although CrystalDisk shows 86%, I’d rather be safe.
I recently got another SSD that went bad, and there was a great Amazon Prime Day deal I couldn’t pass up.
I thought my original question was straightforward regarding the conflicting information I found.
Cloning drives used to be much easier.

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MCcrafter125
Junior Member
4
06-10-2016, 06:46 PM
#5
You need a method to link both drives together. One internal connection and a USB interface for the other would suffice. An HDD image could also work, though it’s not ideal without additional tools. I use Macrium for this task—it performs exceptionally well. You can achieve this using an external adapter for your new drive or an existing Hynix with a Macrium Rescue USB boot option. Either approach is viable. After the cloning process completes, ensure the system only contains the new drive and attempt to boot from it. Avoid cloning first and then inspecting the clone target, as that’s not recommended. Also, adjust the partition size on the 500GB target easily with Macrium. Which option would you prefer?
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MCcrafter125
06-10-2016, 06:46 PM #5

You need a method to link both drives together. One internal connection and a USB interface for the other would suffice. An HDD image could also work, though it’s not ideal without additional tools. I use Macrium for this task—it performs exceptionally well. You can achieve this using an external adapter for your new drive or an existing Hynix with a Macrium Rescue USB boot option. Either approach is viable. After the cloning process completes, ensure the system only contains the new drive and attempt to boot from it. Avoid cloning first and then inspecting the clone target, as that’s not recommended. Also, adjust the partition size on the 500GB target easily with Macrium. Which option would you prefer?

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OreoPro124420
Member
199
06-16-2016, 04:55 AM
#6
Sorry for any confusion about my aim. I actually want to clone the existing drive onto the Samsung 980 so it becomes my internal storage. I really would like to use Samsung Magician, but according to what people say, when connected via USB through a NVMe > USB converter, it won’t be recognized as a Samsung product and won’t work properly, treating it like a regular SSD.
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OreoPro124420
06-16-2016, 04:55 AM #6

Sorry for any confusion about my aim. I actually want to clone the existing drive onto the Samsung 980 so it becomes my internal storage. I really would like to use Samsung Magician, but according to what people say, when connected via USB through a NVMe > USB converter, it won’t be recognized as a Samsung product and won’t work properly, treating it like a regular SSD.

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chaospony
Member
149
06-21-2016, 11:07 AM
#7
Samsung Data Migration (not Magician) tends to avoid cloning to a drive inside an external enclosure.
Macrium will handle it fine.
However, regarding my previous comment... in such situations, using an image on another device functions just as well as a direct clone onto the new drive.
Make a copy elsewhere, boot from a Macrium RescueUSB, swap the physical drives, and restore the image to the new internal drive.
It does work.
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chaospony
06-21-2016, 11:07 AM #7

Samsung Data Migration (not Magician) tends to avoid cloning to a drive inside an external enclosure.
Macrium will handle it fine.
However, regarding my previous comment... in such situations, using an image on another device functions just as well as a direct clone onto the new drive.
Make a copy elsewhere, boot from a Macrium RescueUSB, swap the physical drives, and restore the image to the new internal drive.
It does work.

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Nakamasaki
Member
239
06-23-2016, 05:14 AM
#8
simply insert the drive into the M.2 slot, then.
the purpose of the USB enclosure is unclear, but it seems the planned drive won't use the existing SATA III port. therefore, the system's boot details need to be changed accordingly.
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Nakamasaki
06-23-2016, 05:14 AM #8

simply insert the drive into the M.2 slot, then.
the purpose of the USB enclosure is unclear, but it seems the planned drive won't use the existing SATA III port. therefore, the system's boot details need to be changed accordingly.

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ghostlydigger
Senior Member
500
06-23-2016, 09:57 AM
#9
I have a portable NVMe > USB enclosure which enables connecting the 980 via USB. I was considering using Macrium to clone the previous (Hynix) system while keeping it inside the laptop, then transferring it to the new (980) via USB. I’m hoping this approach will work, but with the conditions you mentioned.
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ghostlydigger
06-23-2016, 09:57 AM #9

I have a portable NVMe > USB enclosure which enables connecting the 980 via USB. I was considering using Macrium to clone the previous (Hynix) system while keeping it inside the laptop, then transferring it to the new (980) via USB. I’m hoping this approach will work, but with the conditions you mentioned.

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PvtStoner
Senior Member
599
06-24-2016, 08:43 AM
#10
Is the present Hynix device a 2.5" or an M.2 SATA connection?
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PvtStoner
06-24-2016, 08:43 AM #10

Is the present Hynix device a 2.5" or an M.2 SATA connection?

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