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Top choice for LF as an alternative to Alienware A51-R2 is MOBO.

Top choice for LF as an alternative to Alienware A51-R2 is MOBO.

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taconiebre
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09-05-2016, 06:13 AM
#11
It's impressive how significantly more affordable these new $110-$150 mobos are in contrast to a decade-old $300-400 x99 board. It seems it would make better use of your budget to buy one of the CPU+mobo bundles I recommended rather than searching for an extremely old x99 board priced over $300. I'm currently considering the Ryzen 5 5600G paired with the B550 Tomahawk combo as the top performance option at a reasonable price. The Intel i5 11400 appears to fall short when directly compared, and the AMD models offer better value. For a budget build, the Ryzen seems like the smarter choice.
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taconiebre
09-05-2016, 06:13 AM #11

It's impressive how significantly more affordable these new $110-$150 mobos are in contrast to a decade-old $300-400 x99 board. It seems it would make better use of your budget to buy one of the CPU+mobo bundles I recommended rather than searching for an extremely old x99 board priced over $300. I'm currently considering the Ryzen 5 5600G paired with the B550 Tomahawk combo as the top performance option at a reasonable price. The Intel i5 11400 appears to fall short when directly compared, and the AMD models offer better value. For a budget build, the Ryzen seems like the smarter choice.

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jjsoini
Posting Freak
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09-05-2016, 12:04 PM
#12
Ryzen remains the best choice, even though I haven't reached the 11400 yet. It's typically $100 lower than its current price, making it a great deal at $180. The two Ryzen units offer better performance, and motherboards are also more affordable at the same time.
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jjsoini
09-05-2016, 12:04 PM #12

Ryzen remains the best choice, even though I haven't reached the 11400 yet. It's typically $100 lower than its current price, making it a great deal at $180. The two Ryzen units offer better performance, and motherboards are also more affordable at the same time.

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Sanic_Toaster
Junior Member
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09-05-2016, 01:13 PM
#13
It seems the Ryzen 5600G comes with an integrated graphics chip, which sets it apart from the X model. Based on what you've noticed, do you think it's smart to hold off on purchasing the CPU and motherboard until Black Friday? From my perspective, some items drop significantly in price, but it's hard to tell which ones will offer big savings. I'm not sure if waiting until Black Friday would really help.
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Sanic_Toaster
09-05-2016, 01:13 PM #13

It seems the Ryzen 5600G comes with an integrated graphics chip, which sets it apart from the X model. Based on what you've noticed, do you think it's smart to hold off on purchasing the CPU and motherboard until Black Friday? From my perspective, some items drop significantly in price, but it's hard to tell which ones will offer big savings. I'm not sure if waiting until Black Friday would really help.

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SweqtyTryHqrd
Junior Member
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09-05-2016, 07:57 PM
#14
Take note that the 5600X generally offers superior performance across the board compared to the 5600G. While having an iGPU is one advantage, it comes with reduced efficiency. For Black Friday, if you’re close to a Micro Center, it’s best to hold off. Over the past couple of years, they’ve offered strong deals on motherboards and CPUs—possibly even earlier. In 2019, the R7 2700X was available for $120 (I purchased one), and in 2020 the 9700k was priced at $200 (I helped two friends buy them). You may need to adjust your expectations, but you can still find great components at a lower cost if you’re patient.
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SweqtyTryHqrd
09-05-2016, 07:57 PM #14

Take note that the 5600X generally offers superior performance across the board compared to the 5600G. While having an iGPU is one advantage, it comes with reduced efficiency. For Black Friday, if you’re close to a Micro Center, it’s best to hold off. Over the past couple of years, they’ve offered strong deals on motherboards and CPUs—possibly even earlier. In 2019, the R7 2700X was available for $120 (I purchased one), and in 2020 the 9700k was priced at $200 (I helped two friends buy them). You may need to adjust your expectations, but you can still find great components at a lower cost if you’re patient.

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xTripleMinerx
Posting Freak
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09-05-2016, 08:50 PM
#15
Gotcha. Unfortunately there's no Micro Centers nearby my location, as I usually get all my stuff from Newegg or Amazon now that Fry's has finally died, so I'm not sure if online deals would be worth the wait :< . My idea with the 5600G's iGPU was that I could take the stress off of my 980 when doing basic tasks instead of always using the GPU to do everything, but I am not sure if that's how it works. Also, when comparing the 5600G and the 5600X, it seemed that the difference wasn't substantial, but if it is and my iGPU idea is incorrect, it appears the ~$50 difference to upgrade to the 5600X might be the way to go.
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xTripleMinerx
09-05-2016, 08:50 PM #15

Gotcha. Unfortunately there's no Micro Centers nearby my location, as I usually get all my stuff from Newegg or Amazon now that Fry's has finally died, so I'm not sure if online deals would be worth the wait :< . My idea with the 5600G's iGPU was that I could take the stress off of my 980 when doing basic tasks instead of always using the GPU to do everything, but I am not sure if that's how it works. Also, when comparing the 5600G and the 5600X, it seemed that the difference wasn't substantial, but if it is and my iGPU idea is incorrect, it appears the ~$50 difference to upgrade to the 5600X might be the way to go.

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raz3d_
Junior Member
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09-12-2016, 06:37 AM
#16
You can achieve this using the iGPU, though the change isn't very apparent. I recommend choosing the 5600X if you have the budget.
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raz3d_
09-12-2016, 06:37 AM #16

You can achieve this using the iGPU, though the change isn't very apparent. I recommend choosing the 5600X if you have the budget.

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kerem_
Member
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09-12-2016, 06:53 AM
#17
The comparison data often shows most users favoring the 5600X. Your concerns about the performance gap between the 5600G’s Vega iGPU and your GTX 980 are valid. The GTX 980 generally outperforms, especially since the 5600G’s GPU is a laptop model.
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kerem_
09-12-2016, 06:53 AM #17

The comparison data often shows most users favoring the 5600X. Your concerns about the performance gap between the 5600G’s Vega iGPU and your GTX 980 are valid. The GTX 980 generally outperforms, especially since the 5600G’s GPU is a laptop model.

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STEVEJasonson
Member
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09-13-2016, 09:10 PM
#18
They belong to two distinct chip categories. It isn't a laptop GPU, yet it closely resembles AMD's laptop iGPUs, similar to the ones they've relied on for about two to three years. More akin to a GT 1030 than a GTX 980. It offers the ability to play a reasonable selection of games at low to medium settings in 1080p, though performance remains modest.
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STEVEJasonson
09-13-2016, 09:10 PM #18

They belong to two distinct chip categories. It isn't a laptop GPU, yet it closely resembles AMD's laptop iGPUs, similar to the ones they've relied on for about two to three years. More akin to a GT 1030 than a GTX 980. It offers the ability to play a reasonable selection of games at low to medium settings in 1080p, though performance remains modest.

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69696969699
Junior Member
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09-21-2016, 02:32 PM
#19
Noted. Comparing the GT 1030 and the GTX 980 through benchmarks shows the 980 performs notably better. Even though the iGPUs aren't directly side by side, it seems the 980 is substantially more capable than the 5600G's graphics card.
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69696969699
09-21-2016, 02:32 PM #19

Noted. Comparing the GT 1030 and the GTX 980 through benchmarks shows the 980 performs notably better. Even though the iGPUs aren't directly side by side, it seems the 980 is substantially more capable than the 5600G's graphics card.

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MaxBella3
Junior Member
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09-21-2016, 11:15 PM
#20
They match up directly, the FPS figures are identical. The 980 offers significantly greater power compared to the integrated graphics.
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MaxBella3
09-21-2016, 11:15 PM #20

They match up directly, the FPS figures are identical. The 980 offers significantly greater power compared to the integrated graphics.

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