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Tips for minor overclocking

Tips for minor overclocking

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Hoewls
Member
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10-10-2017, 08:06 PM
#1
I'm working with an older FX 8350 and a 970A-UD3P board, using a Corsair H70 Cooler. To be frank, I haven't ever overclocked before, but I plan to upgrade my GPU from the RX 560 to a RX 580. Since I don't play much modern games, I'm worried about a bottleneck with the new graphics card. As someone new to overclocking, I'd like to aim for around 4.5, though maybe a bit lower for stability. I'm not planning to push it too hard. I've spent a lot watching videos and reading about overclocking, but I'm still unsure if I'm doing it correctly. I think I can adjust the CPU multiplier in the BIOS—probably around 22-24, depending on how stable it becomes. I wonder if increasing the VCore is necessary. There are some forum discussions suggesting 1.44, but I'm not sure how to interpret that. I'm also not sure if changing the BIOS settings is needed. Cool and quiet, just C6 (not completely sure what that means). If I manage to get it to 4.4, I'd be happy. Thanks for any advice!
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Hoewls
10-10-2017, 08:06 PM #1

I'm working with an older FX 8350 and a 970A-UD3P board, using a Corsair H70 Cooler. To be frank, I haven't ever overclocked before, but I plan to upgrade my GPU from the RX 560 to a RX 580. Since I don't play much modern games, I'm worried about a bottleneck with the new graphics card. As someone new to overclocking, I'd like to aim for around 4.5, though maybe a bit lower for stability. I'm not planning to push it too hard. I've spent a lot watching videos and reading about overclocking, but I'm still unsure if I'm doing it correctly. I think I can adjust the CPU multiplier in the BIOS—probably around 22-24, depending on how stable it becomes. I wonder if increasing the VCore is necessary. There are some forum discussions suggesting 1.44, but I'm not sure how to interpret that. I'm also not sure if changing the BIOS settings is needed. Cool and quiet, just C6 (not completely sure what that means). If I manage to get it to 4.4, I'd be happy. Thanks for any advice!

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hugobd2004
Member
54
10-16-2017, 01:24 AM
#2
Ok. So, it's good that you are getting better thermals now, but I'm going to be honest with you. You need a better cooler. That cooler is designed to be a replacement for a stock cooler, giving an entry level user an "in" to using AIO cooling, and for aesthetic reasons. It's not a capable cooler at all. Most entry level 120mm air coolers can do as well as that cooler. So, that is something to think about.
For overclocking you CAN get by with a 120mm air cooler on FX platforms, but a decent single tower 140mm cooler is a much better idea, at minimum. Or at least a 240mm AIO. But there's no reason to not see what you can achieve with what you have for now.
Also, I wanted to show you this. This is my motherboard recommendation list for...
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hugobd2004
10-16-2017, 01:24 AM #2

Ok. So, it's good that you are getting better thermals now, but I'm going to be honest with you. You need a better cooler. That cooler is designed to be a replacement for a stock cooler, giving an entry level user an "in" to using AIO cooling, and for aesthetic reasons. It's not a capable cooler at all. Most entry level 120mm air coolers can do as well as that cooler. So, that is something to think about.
For overclocking you CAN get by with a 120mm air cooler on FX platforms, but a decent single tower 140mm cooler is a much better idea, at minimum. Or at least a 240mm AIO. But there's no reason to not see what you can achieve with what you have for now.
Also, I wanted to show you this. This is my motherboard recommendation list for...

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KingJjpr
Member
214
10-16-2017, 02:46 AM
#3
Simply observe the temps (CPU & VRM), aim to reach the limits. Don't force it with Prime; use AMD Overdrive in a built-in way, and normal operation is sufficient.
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KingJjpr
10-16-2017, 02:46 AM #3

Simply observe the temps (CPU & VRM), aim to reach the limits. Don't force it with Prime; use AMD Overdrive in a built-in way, and normal operation is sufficient.

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RHINOncg2000
Member
162
10-16-2017, 03:53 AM
#4
Before adjusting your FX-8350, perform a stress test to set a baseline at normal speed using AIDA64. Capture images of your desktop at the 10-minute point and share them here. Also install HWINFO64 and place both on your desktop together. Execute the stress test in Aida64 via the tools menu for ten minutes, monitoring temperatures and rail voltages throughout. This should provide sufficient headroom for a moderate overclock. Once I have this data, I can suggest appropriate BIOS settings. Avoid third-party tools for overclocking. Keep it cool, quiet, and use 'c' states to preserve performance.
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RHINOncg2000
10-16-2017, 03:53 AM #4

Before adjusting your FX-8350, perform a stress test to set a baseline at normal speed using AIDA64. Capture images of your desktop at the 10-minute point and share them here. Also install HWINFO64 and place both on your desktop together. Execute the stress test in Aida64 via the tools menu for ten minutes, monitoring temperatures and rail voltages throughout. This should provide sufficient headroom for a moderate overclock. Once I have this data, I can suggest appropriate BIOS settings. Avoid third-party tools for overclocking. Keep it cool, quiet, and use 'c' states to preserve performance.

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Eduardo_GameOn
Posting Freak
921
10-23-2017, 11:34 PM
#5
Do not use AMD overdrive when setting your overclock. Always set it in the BIOS. Any alternative method usually leads to complications. This YouTube tutorial from Jayz2cents, although I don’t particularly like the person, uses an ASUS board, but most of the settings and configurations will be quite similar on the Gigabyte model you own. If you encounter problems or need more details, there are numerous platform-specific overclocking guides available to assist you in achieving the basic setup, such as this one. However, there are many more options if you do some research. https://www. Regarding thermal compliance and stability testing—the most time-consuming aspect of overclocking—I believe my guide can assist with that. CPU overclocking guide and tutorial for beginners Explaining the fundamentals If you arrived here, it’s likely you’re seeking help with basic overclocking. Or perhaps you’re an experienced overclocker curious about new perspectives I might have missed. Rest assured, this is only meant to... forums. My recommendation is to keep the C states active. Keep Cool N Quiet enabled. In the Windows advanced power settings, after selecting "Change plan settings" to reach the advanced options for your current power plan, switch it to the "Performance" plan, then adjust the "Processor power management" setting to a minimum of 8% and leave the maximum at 100%. Remember to save these changes before exiting. For a 4.5Ghz processor, set the multiplier to 22.5 and aim for around 1.35-1.36 volts for stability at that setting. However, this should be done gradually. Simply stating "4.5 and X voltage" often doesn’t work well. Begin from a sensible starting point and adjust slowly. If you have experience, quick overclocking might yield better results due to your expertise, but even then, the process has a logical reason behind it.
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Eduardo_GameOn
10-23-2017, 11:34 PM #5

Do not use AMD overdrive when setting your overclock. Always set it in the BIOS. Any alternative method usually leads to complications. This YouTube tutorial from Jayz2cents, although I don’t particularly like the person, uses an ASUS board, but most of the settings and configurations will be quite similar on the Gigabyte model you own. If you encounter problems or need more details, there are numerous platform-specific overclocking guides available to assist you in achieving the basic setup, such as this one. However, there are many more options if you do some research. https://www. Regarding thermal compliance and stability testing—the most time-consuming aspect of overclocking—I believe my guide can assist with that. CPU overclocking guide and tutorial for beginners Explaining the fundamentals If you arrived here, it’s likely you’re seeking help with basic overclocking. Or perhaps you’re an experienced overclocker curious about new perspectives I might have missed. Rest assured, this is only meant to... forums. My recommendation is to keep the C states active. Keep Cool N Quiet enabled. In the Windows advanced power settings, after selecting "Change plan settings" to reach the advanced options for your current power plan, switch it to the "Performance" plan, then adjust the "Processor power management" setting to a minimum of 8% and leave the maximum at 100%. Remember to save these changes before exiting. For a 4.5Ghz processor, set the multiplier to 22.5 and aim for around 1.35-1.36 volts for stability at that setting. However, this should be done gradually. Simply stating "4.5 and X voltage" often doesn’t work well. Begin from a sensible starting point and adjust slowly. If you have experience, quick overclocking might yield better results due to your expertise, but even then, the process has a logical reason behind it.

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Beengt
Junior Member
12
10-24-2017, 07:53 AM
#6
Sorry Mike, but this seems like the most unwise suggestion I've encountered throughout my career. I truly believe it's extremely careless to recommend such a risky modification.
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Beengt
10-24-2017, 07:53 AM #6

Sorry Mike, but this seems like the most unwise suggestion I've encountered throughout my career. I truly believe it's extremely careless to recommend such a risky modification.

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noah1277
Junior Member
45
10-24-2017, 11:49 AM
#7
Why? My performance was stable at 4.8GHz and 1.5v on the same MB, though a slightly better cooler (CM Nepton 140XL) helped. Temperature data will reveal everything he needs. The OC is quite clear on these setups. The most precise measurement comes from AMD Overdrive. I might prefer doing it gradually and checking when the AOD temperature nears zero.
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noah1277
10-24-2017, 11:49 AM #7

Why? My performance was stable at 4.8GHz and 1.5v on the same MB, though a slightly better cooler (CM Nepton 140XL) helped. Temperature data will reveal everything he needs. The OC is quite clear on these setups. The most precise measurement comes from AMD Overdrive. I might prefer doing it gradually and checking when the AOD temperature nears zero.

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11-03-2017, 05:29 PM
#8
So, yours worked and that implies everything will work too, since they are all identical and there are no variations in CPU traits, silicon selection, binning, memory setups, motherboard ages, and related parts. Power supplies, cooling, case airflow, system condition, and Windows version all play no role here. Right?

We simply assume stability when there’s no overheating. That’s a bad piece of advice at best.

As any experienced member knows or you can find on trusted tech platforms, if you plan to overclock—whether it's the CPU, RAM, or graphics card—it’s essential to be prepared to invest effort in verifying thermal performance and stability. Otherwise, there’s no point in spending time setting it up.
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whitecastle200
11-03-2017, 05:29 PM #8

So, yours worked and that implies everything will work too, since they are all identical and there are no variations in CPU traits, silicon selection, binning, memory setups, motherboard ages, and related parts. Power supplies, cooling, case airflow, system condition, and Windows version all play no role here. Right?

We simply assume stability when there’s no overheating. That’s a bad piece of advice at best.

As any experienced member knows or you can find on trusted tech platforms, if you plan to overclock—whether it's the CPU, RAM, or graphics card—it’s essential to be prepared to invest effort in verifying thermal performance and stability. Otherwise, there’s no point in spending time setting it up.

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Flyyyyyyy
Junior Member
21
11-03-2017, 07:31 PM
#9
Even considering "silicone lottery," 4.4GHz isn't pushing it at all—it's a minor tweak for the second-gen FX. It might be possible to achieve this with less than 1.4v. The VRM is sufficient enough. After all, only a 200MHz increase over boost frequency is a safe adjustment, even on an OEM cooler.
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Flyyyyyyy
11-03-2017, 07:31 PM #9

Even considering "silicone lottery," 4.4GHz isn't pushing it at all—it's a minor tweak for the second-gen FX. It might be possible to achieve this with less than 1.4v. The VRM is sufficient enough. After all, only a 200MHz increase over boost frequency is a safe adjustment, even on an OEM cooler.

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storm11512
Member
62
11-11-2017, 02:31 AM
#10
That's the outcome after 10 minutes. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
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storm11512
11-11-2017, 02:31 AM #10

That's the outcome after 10 minutes. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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