F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Timings from two different kits function properly, though it's unclear if one is superior.

Timings from two different kits function properly, though it's unclear if one is superior.

Timings from two different kits function properly, though it's unclear if one is superior.

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GENTILPHOQUE
Member
64
07-12-2023, 11:15 AM
#1
Looking for guidance on setting RAM parameters. You have four 8GB modules—two at 3600MHz and two at 3200MHz. You're considering swapping frequencies to see if overclocking is possible. Your current timings are 16-20-20-40, but you're thinking about adjusting them. Options include mixing timings (1), or sticking with the original (2), or using a different set (3) or all four (4). Let me know which approach you'd like to explore further.
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GENTILPHOQUE
07-12-2023, 11:15 AM #1

Looking for guidance on setting RAM parameters. You have four 8GB modules—two at 3600MHz and two at 3200MHz. You're considering swapping frequencies to see if overclocking is possible. Your current timings are 16-20-20-40, but you're thinking about adjusting them. Options include mixing timings (1), or sticking with the original (2), or using a different set (3) or all four (4). Let me know which approach you'd like to explore further.

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Valinn
Junior Member
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07-21-2023, 12:07 AM
#2
Capture a snapshot of the Thaiphoon burner for all four sticks to check for issues before proceeding with overclocking. Rushing into overclocking without proper checks can lead to unnecessary RAM errors.
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Valinn
07-21-2023, 12:07 AM #2

Capture a snapshot of the Thaiphoon burner for all four sticks to check for issues before proceeding with overclocking. Rushing into overclocking without proper checks can lead to unnecessary RAM errors.

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Sofi41505
Member
149
07-21-2023, 01:23 AM
#3
Adjusting the cache size from 3600 to 3200 would shift the timing to 16-20-20-38, rounding up to whole cycles. This suggests the existing configuration is close enough, making it a safe choice. I wouldn't attempt to fine-tune the final timing if it already functions properly.
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Sofi41505
07-21-2023, 01:23 AM #3

Adjusting the cache size from 3600 to 3200 would shift the timing to 16-20-20-38, rounding up to whole cycles. This suggests the existing configuration is close enough, making it a safe choice. I wouldn't attempt to fine-tune the final timing if it already functions properly.

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JGood456
Member
168
07-21-2023, 01:51 AM
#4
I tried to set it up, but the website is unavailable. Are you certain it’s the right place? It might be a blocked site or something else.
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JGood456
07-21-2023, 01:51 AM #4

I tried to set it up, but the website is unavailable. Are you certain it’s the right place? It might be a blocked site or something else.

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Muggy215
Member
147
07-21-2023, 03:03 AM
#5
Thanks! That helps. I'm just starting to learn about Cl, timing, and frequency. Some of it makes sense, but not everything yet.
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Muggy215
07-21-2023, 03:03 AM #5

Thanks! That helps. I'm just starting to learn about Cl, timing, and frequency. Some of it makes sense, but not everything yet.

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_flyckness
Junior Member
4
07-21-2023, 03:45 AM
#6
I'll try again. Seems like it's a known issue: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/29...-positive/
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_flyckness
07-21-2023, 03:45 AM #6

I'll try again. Seems like it's a known issue: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/29...-positive/

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los_dos
Member
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07-21-2023, 06:25 PM
#7
Are you seeking this information? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY MODULE (50) ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Team Group Series : Not assigned Part Code : TEAMGROUP-UD4-3600 Label for DIMM: 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2400R-UA2-11 Tech: DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM Grade Size: 8 GB (8 parts) Setup: 1024M x64 (single level) Memory Chip Producer: N/A Chip Design: N/A Brand: N/A Model: N/A Date Made: Jan 30 - Feb 3 / Week 05, 2023 Place of Origin: Taiwan Version of Card: FF00h / A2 (8 layers) ------------------------------------------------------------- DRAM PARTS ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Hynix Part Code : H5AN8G8NCJR-UHC Type: Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA Die Size / Count: 8 Gb C-die (18 nm) / single die 1 part Composition: 1024Mb x8 (64Mb x8 x 16 rows) Clock Speed Input: 1200 MHz (0.833 ns) Timing Requirements: Minimum delays 16-16-16-39-55 Read times Supported: 18T, 17T, 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T... Voltage Supply: 1.20 V XMP Certified : 1799 MHz / 18-22-22-42-64 / 1.35 V XMP Extreme Not programmed SPD Version: 1.1 / Sept 2015 XMP Updated : 2.0 / Dec 2013 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY MODULE (51) ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Team Group Series : Not determined Part Code : TEAMGROUP-UD4-3200 Label: 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2400R-UA2-11 Tech: DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM Grade Size: 8 GB (8 parts) Setup: 1024M x64 (single level) Memory Chip Producer: N/A Chip Design: N/A Production Date: Jan 30 - Feb 3 / Week 05, 2023 Location: Taiwan Version of Card: FF00h / A2 (8 layers) ------------------------------------------------------------- DRAM PARTS ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Hynix Part Code : H5AN8G8NCJR-UHC Type: Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA Die Size / Count: 8 Gb C-die (18 nm) / one die 1 part Composition: 1024Mb x8 (64Mb x8 x 16 rows) Clock Speed Input: 1200 MHz (0.833 ns) Timing Needs: Minimum delays 16-16-16-39-55 Read times Accepted: 18T, 17T, 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T... Voltage Supply: 1.20 V XMP Certified : 1799 MHz / 18-22-22-42-64 / 1.35 V XMP Extreme Not programmed SPD Version: 1.1 / Sept 2015 XMP Updated : 2.0 / Dec 2013 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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los_dos
07-21-2023, 06:25 PM #7

Are you seeking this information? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY MODULE (50) ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Team Group Series : Not assigned Part Code : TEAMGROUP-UD4-3600 Label for DIMM: 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2400R-UA2-11 Tech: DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM Grade Size: 8 GB (8 parts) Setup: 1024M x64 (single level) Memory Chip Producer: N/A Chip Design: N/A Brand: N/A Model: N/A Date Made: Jan 30 - Feb 3 / Week 05, 2023 Place of Origin: Taiwan Version of Card: FF00h / A2 (8 layers) ------------------------------------------------------------- DRAM PARTS ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Hynix Part Code : H5AN8G8NCJR-UHC Type: Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA Die Size / Count: 8 Gb C-die (18 nm) / single die 1 part Composition: 1024Mb x8 (64Mb x8 x 16 rows) Clock Speed Input: 1200 MHz (0.833 ns) Timing Requirements: Minimum delays 16-16-16-39-55 Read times Supported: 18T, 17T, 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T... Voltage Supply: 1.20 V XMP Certified : 1799 MHz / 18-22-22-42-64 / 1.35 V XMP Extreme Not programmed SPD Version: 1.1 / Sept 2015 XMP Updated : 2.0 / Dec 2013 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY MODULE (51) ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Team Group Series : Not determined Part Code : TEAMGROUP-UD4-3200 Label: 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2400R-UA2-11 Tech: DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM Grade Size: 8 GB (8 parts) Setup: 1024M x64 (single level) Memory Chip Producer: N/A Chip Design: N/A Production Date: Jan 30 - Feb 3 / Week 05, 2023 Location: Taiwan Version of Card: FF00h / A2 (8 layers) ------------------------------------------------------------- DRAM PARTS ------------------------------------------------------------- Producer : Hynix Part Code : H5AN8G8NCJR-UHC Type: Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA Die Size / Count: 8 Gb C-die (18 nm) / one die 1 part Composition: 1024Mb x8 (64Mb x8 x 16 rows) Clock Speed Input: 1200 MHz (0.833 ns) Timing Needs: Minimum delays 16-16-16-39-55 Read times Accepted: 18T, 17T, 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T... Voltage Supply: 1.20 V XMP Certified : 1799 MHz / 18-22-22-42-64 / 1.35 V XMP Extreme Not programmed SPD Version: 1.1 / Sept 2015 XMP Updated : 2.0 / Dec 2013 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jopy
Member
65
07-23-2023, 03:24 PM
#8
The 3600 sticks are Hynix CJRS. The 3200 sticks are Samsung C Die or D Die. Remove the 3600 sticks and apply 1.6V. If the system stops working completely, it indicates a faulty die. You can also run a frequency test using 3733 or 3800. Check if voltage scaling works (set C19, volt to 1.4 and 1.45v). If not, replace the die.
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Jopy
07-23-2023, 03:24 PM #8

The 3600 sticks are Hynix CJRS. The 3200 sticks are Samsung C Die or D Die. Remove the 3600 sticks and apply 1.6V. If the system stops working completely, it indicates a faulty die. You can also run a frequency test using 3733 or 3800. Check if voltage scaling works (set C19, volt to 1.4 and 1.45v). If not, replace the die.