F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop This motherboard remains a solid option for purchase or you can hold off.

This motherboard remains a solid option for purchase or you can hold off.

This motherboard remains a solid option for purchase or you can hold off.

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straptor50
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06-26-2021, 01:22 AM
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Hello all, my system: EVGA GTX 1070 i5 8600 3.1GHz Base 4x4GB 2133MHz no XMP available G-skill sticks B360 Gaming Plus 2x 250GB SATA SSDs, 1x 1TB HDD Currently with 1 chrome tab open writing this i'm using 3.3GB of RAM and i believe my system requires a cleanup, i believe last i checked my OS drive is 43% fragmented as well. I'm trying to figure out if it's a bad time to still purchase a MB with an LGA 1151 socket and DDR4 that supports 3000-3600Mhz RAM speeds (because mine only supports until 2400) due to the somewhat recent entrance of DDR5 into the market and different chipset sizes for the new Intel gen CPUs. I figured i'd change my motherboard and do a clean wipe of my system saving all the important stuff, maintaining CPU and GPU, installing win10 fresh on a 256/512GB M.2 2280 NVMe and maybe a 1TB SATA SSD and buying 2x16GB/4x8GB 3000-3200Mhz RAM sticks. I apologize if i'm not understanding a few concepts or i'm not clear enough in my question, would appreciate any help. Thanks. Edited June 14, 2022 by Harthal
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straptor50
06-26-2021, 01:22 AM #1

Hello all, my system: EVGA GTX 1070 i5 8600 3.1GHz Base 4x4GB 2133MHz no XMP available G-skill sticks B360 Gaming Plus 2x 250GB SATA SSDs, 1x 1TB HDD Currently with 1 chrome tab open writing this i'm using 3.3GB of RAM and i believe my system requires a cleanup, i believe last i checked my OS drive is 43% fragmented as well. I'm trying to figure out if it's a bad time to still purchase a MB with an LGA 1151 socket and DDR4 that supports 3000-3600Mhz RAM speeds (because mine only supports until 2400) due to the somewhat recent entrance of DDR5 into the market and different chipset sizes for the new Intel gen CPUs. I figured i'd change my motherboard and do a clean wipe of my system saving all the important stuff, maintaining CPU and GPU, installing win10 fresh on a 256/512GB M.2 2280 NVMe and maybe a 1TB SATA SSD and buying 2x16GB/4x8GB 3000-3200Mhz RAM sticks. I apologize if i'm not understanding a few concepts or i'm not clear enough in my question, would appreciate any help. Thanks. Edited June 14, 2022 by Harthal

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Fred10244
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06-30-2021, 04:41 PM
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Responded unintentionally.
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Fred10244
06-30-2021, 04:41 PM #2

Responded unintentionally.

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CalvinOffTopic
Junior Member
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07-02-2021, 11:13 PM
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If you wait until the fall to see upcoming AMD releases and evaluate their impact, I’d consider it. This could reveal how much performance improvement they offer. Intel’s 12th gen CPUs probably won’t see big price cuts, but it might hint at what’s coming with the 13th gen. There are discussions about AMD securing more DDR5 supply, which could help lower prices. Some reports suggest Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000) won’t be the final AM4 model, possibly keeping DDR4 in use for a while longer—so prices might stay stable on that platform.
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CalvinOffTopic
07-02-2021, 11:13 PM #3

If you wait until the fall to see upcoming AMD releases and evaluate their impact, I’d consider it. This could reveal how much performance improvement they offer. Intel’s 12th gen CPUs probably won’t see big price cuts, but it might hint at what’s coming with the 13th gen. There are discussions about AMD securing more DDR5 supply, which could help lower prices. Some reports suggest Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000) won’t be the final AM4 model, possibly keeping DDR4 in use for a while longer—so prices might stay stable on that platform.

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DunkelMax
Member
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07-04-2021, 02:05 PM
#4
It's uncertain if the price fits your expectations, but a 1080p or 1440p setup with a 1151 socket and DDR4 3200Mhz RAM could still offer good value. You might upgrade later to an i9 9900k and a better GPU, but you should consider how quickly the 1151 socket might become outdated and what performance gains it would provide compared to older chipsets like AM4 or LGA 1700.
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DunkelMax
07-04-2021, 02:05 PM #4

It's uncertain if the price fits your expectations, but a 1080p or 1440p setup with a 1151 socket and DDR4 3200Mhz RAM could still offer good value. You might upgrade later to an i9 9900k and a better GPU, but you should consider how quickly the 1151 socket might become outdated and what performance gains it would provide compared to older chipsets like AM4 or LGA 1700.

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_REDNECK_
Junior Member
10
07-07-2021, 12:25 AM
#5
It seems they're likely outdated already, so demand will probably drop soon. If you want a board that can overclock, it's better to purchase sooner or observe upcoming lower-end releases. A 12400 with compatible DDR4 might be a smarter choice than buying a 1151 board and then getting a new CPU later.
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_REDNECK_
07-07-2021, 12:25 AM #5

It seems they're likely outdated already, so demand will probably drop soon. If you want a board that can overclock, it's better to purchase sooner or observe upcoming lower-end releases. A 12400 with compatible DDR4 might be a smarter choice than buying a 1151 board and then getting a new CPU later.

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NoxerPlays
Junior Member
15
07-21-2021, 02:47 PM
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It's been a while since my last upgrade, with only four different 1151 boards available nearby—mostly for micro ATX. I'm leaning toward going up to 1700, but if I upgrade the CPU, the 12400 might be a bit limited. Swapping to an i5 12600K could be better if I switch to a different socket. Honestly, I'm hearing about LGA1800 and 2551, which makes things a bit confusing. Will AMD stick with AM4? Thanks for the advice.
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NoxerPlays
07-21-2021, 02:47 PM #6

It's been a while since my last upgrade, with only four different 1151 boards available nearby—mostly for micro ATX. I'm leaning toward going up to 1700, but if I upgrade the CPU, the 12400 might be a bit limited. Swapping to an i5 12600K could be better if I switch to a different socket. Honestly, I'm hearing about LGA1800 and 2551, which makes things a bit confusing. Will AMD stick with AM4? Thanks for the advice.

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qwertysdo
Junior Member
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07-21-2021, 08:43 PM
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AMD will, at least according to speculation, have AM5 for their new flagship stuff (which will use DDR5, PCIe 5.0, etc) but there was hints in an interview recently that they'll continue AM4 for a bit longer which would stay on DDR4 but of course that's all non-confirmed speculation so I can't say for sure sadly A 12600K would be a great CPU for 1080p or 1440p maybe even a 12700K if you have the budget but the 12900K is just for bragging rights at this point with no real tangible benefit over the 12700 in almost all normal/general use cases. Intel's socket stuff is all over the place sadly, I'm hoping they pull an AMD and at least try to stick with the same socket for more than 1-2 generations but who knows.
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qwertysdo
07-21-2021, 08:43 PM #7

AMD will, at least according to speculation, have AM5 for their new flagship stuff (which will use DDR5, PCIe 5.0, etc) but there was hints in an interview recently that they'll continue AM4 for a bit longer which would stay on DDR4 but of course that's all non-confirmed speculation so I can't say for sure sadly A 12600K would be a great CPU for 1080p or 1440p maybe even a 12700K if you have the budget but the 12900K is just for bragging rights at this point with no real tangible benefit over the 12700 in almost all normal/general use cases. Intel's socket stuff is all over the place sadly, I'm hoping they pull an AMD and at least try to stick with the same socket for more than 1-2 generations but who knows.

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CristoferOM2
Member
103
07-28-2021, 11:27 AM
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Does this indicate you're using the OS on an HDD? Since fragmentation doesn't affect SSDs, a simple reinstallation of the OS on one of your SSDs could provide a noticeable speed improvement. Avoid upgrading your system until you've tried this approach. If you're not satisfied, consider an upgrade. The gains from faster RAM on Intel systems aren't substantial, so labeling it outdated is an exaggeration. While these components are a bit outdated now, they still work well for mid-range setups. If you plan to purchase a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM, it makes sense to opt for the latest generation, but if you're only replacing the CPU with a mid-range model like the 9700 series, that would be sufficient.
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CristoferOM2
07-28-2021, 11:27 AM #8

Does this indicate you're using the OS on an HDD? Since fragmentation doesn't affect SSDs, a simple reinstallation of the OS on one of your SSDs could provide a noticeable speed improvement. Avoid upgrading your system until you've tried this approach. If you're not satisfied, consider an upgrade. The gains from faster RAM on Intel systems aren't substantial, so labeling it outdated is an exaggeration. While these components are a bit outdated now, they still work well for mid-range setups. If you plan to purchase a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM, it makes sense to opt for the latest generation, but if you're only replacing the CPU with a mid-range model like the 9700 series, that would be sufficient.

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HungoPwnzU
Junior Member
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07-28-2021, 12:57 PM
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It's on one of the 256GB SSDs, but it has 43% fragmentation.
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HungoPwnzU
07-28-2021, 12:57 PM #9

It's on one of the 256GB SSDs, but it has 43% fragmentation.

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Mert_The_Gamer
Junior Member
14
07-29-2021, 03:16 PM
#10
Good to hear. However, as I mentioned, fragmentation isn't an issue with SSDs. It only becomes relevant on spinning drives where a physical arm must move to access different bits instead of reading them in sequence.
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Mert_The_Gamer
07-29-2021, 03:16 PM #10

Good to hear. However, as I mentioned, fragmentation isn't an issue with SSDs. It only becomes relevant on spinning drives where a physical arm must move to access different bits instead of reading them in sequence.

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