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They likely assume the differences are minor or focus on compatibility rather than major changes.

They likely assume the differences are minor or focus on compatibility rather than major changes.

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DimaHDGaming
Junior Member
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12-08-2023, 02:14 PM
#1
Before purchasing my new setup, I thoroughly reviewed various opinions on the different parts. It was my first AMD machine with a 7800x3d. Everything turned out smoothly, the performance was solid, and I achieved decent load times of around 7 seconds after memory optimization. I chose to set my RAM to EXPO 1 at 5600 MHz instead of 6000 to prevent stability problems. I wasn’t aiming for significant overclocking and was pleased with the outcome. I ran a few benchmarks, placing my CPU among the average for other 7800x3d models, which was satisfactory. I’m now focusing on gaming without any interruptions. However, I made an error—I believed I had configured the correct settings but likely misplaced the buttons. I ordered 32 GB of RAM, thinking I’d pressed the right options, but it turned out to be a single stick, not two, meaning no dual channel. After checking performance impacts, I learned that DDR5 supports dual channel by default. All the tests I ran (single vs dual sticks) showed minimal variation except for slight drops in the lowest scores. So, I’m keeping the single stick for now. What confuses me is that most reviews I read about components ignored this detail, treating DDR5 as DDR4 and only highlighting systems with two sticks... which seems to imply quad channel. I’m not sure, and none of the reviews addressed running with just one stick—though I could always replace it later.
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DimaHDGaming
12-08-2023, 02:14 PM #1

Before purchasing my new setup, I thoroughly reviewed various opinions on the different parts. It was my first AMD machine with a 7800x3d. Everything turned out smoothly, the performance was solid, and I achieved decent load times of around 7 seconds after memory optimization. I chose to set my RAM to EXPO 1 at 5600 MHz instead of 6000 to prevent stability problems. I wasn’t aiming for significant overclocking and was pleased with the outcome. I ran a few benchmarks, placing my CPU among the average for other 7800x3d models, which was satisfactory. I’m now focusing on gaming without any interruptions. However, I made an error—I believed I had configured the correct settings but likely misplaced the buttons. I ordered 32 GB of RAM, thinking I’d pressed the right options, but it turned out to be a single stick, not two, meaning no dual channel. After checking performance impacts, I learned that DDR5 supports dual channel by default. All the tests I ran (single vs dual sticks) showed minimal variation except for slight drops in the lowest scores. So, I’m keeping the single stick for now. What confuses me is that most reviews I read about components ignored this detail, treating DDR5 as DDR4 and only highlighting systems with two sticks... which seems to imply quad channel. I’m not sure, and none of the reviews addressed running with just one stick—though I could always replace it later.

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_FattyWap_
Member
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12-09-2023, 12:19 AM
#2
1 DDR5 module supports 2x32-bit dual channel. 2 DDR4 modules operate in 2x64-bit dual channel. That's what I've discovered...
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_FattyWap_
12-09-2023, 12:19 AM #2

1 DDR5 module supports 2x32-bit dual channel. 2 DDR4 modules operate in 2x64-bit dual channel. That's what I've discovered...

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ilija
Member
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12-09-2023, 11:07 AM
#3
That doesn´t really equate with the benchmarks I have seen thus far with 1 stick vs 2 sticks. DDR 4 has huge benefits in dual channel vs single channel, DDR 5 benchmarks (from what I have seen) don´t warrant a "sure 2 stick recommendation". On top of that the DDR 5 memory controllers seem to be very finnicky the more modules you add to the mix, so that leaves someone with a very tight budget to just buy a single 16 gb DDR memory module with the thought of upgrading at a later as a viable option. Thank you for the link, it´s the only time I have seen that mentioned and it still baffles me because it´s actually an important detail.
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ilija
12-09-2023, 11:07 AM #3

That doesn´t really equate with the benchmarks I have seen thus far with 1 stick vs 2 sticks. DDR 4 has huge benefits in dual channel vs single channel, DDR 5 benchmarks (from what I have seen) don´t warrant a "sure 2 stick recommendation". On top of that the DDR 5 memory controllers seem to be very finnicky the more modules you add to the mix, so that leaves someone with a very tight budget to just buy a single 16 gb DDR memory module with the thought of upgrading at a later as a viable option. Thank you for the link, it´s the only time I have seen that mentioned and it still baffles me because it´s actually an important detail.

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Sunahh
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12-11-2023, 05:39 AM
#4
Current standards continue to support 2 sticks of DDR5 technology.
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Sunahh
12-11-2023, 05:39 AM #4

Current standards continue to support 2 sticks of DDR5 technology.

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iTzDrVansPT
Member
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12-11-2023, 06:13 AM
#5
The benchmarks and suggestions you saw were a bit different. The Dual Channel DDR5 RAM can definitely boost your PC’s speed if you need it, but only certain programs will take advantage of its advantages. Right now, gaming isn’t among them. ... and the other video I watched:
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iTzDrVansPT
12-11-2023, 06:13 AM #5

The benchmarks and suggestions you saw were a bit different. The Dual Channel DDR5 RAM can definitely boost your PC’s speed if you need it, but only certain programs will take advantage of its advantages. Right now, gaming isn’t among them. ... and the other video I watched:

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RoboticQ
Junior Member
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12-11-2023, 11:11 AM
#6
This approach, however, I would prefer to reorder it as you suggested. A DDR5 stick offers 2x32-bit channels while a DDR4 stick provides 1x64-bit channels. When DDR5 first launched, discussions focused on its double channel count but noted the narrower channel width didn’t significantly boost peak bandwidth. At that time, there was uncertainty about how media would describe these differences between DDR4 and DDR5. It appears the industry has opted for a path similar to DDR4, using one channel per module rather than two. You still aim to use two sticks in consumer systems to maximize throughput. AMD implements this (7950X3D), Intel follows suit (13900k).
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RoboticQ
12-11-2023, 11:11 AM #6

This approach, however, I would prefer to reorder it as you suggested. A DDR5 stick offers 2x32-bit channels while a DDR4 stick provides 1x64-bit channels. When DDR5 first launched, discussions focused on its double channel count but noted the narrower channel width didn’t significantly boost peak bandwidth. At that time, there was uncertainty about how media would describe these differences between DDR4 and DDR5. It appears the industry has opted for a path similar to DDR4, using one channel per module rather than two. You still aim to use two sticks in consumer systems to maximize throughput. AMD implements this (7950X3D), Intel follows suit (13900k).

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kyraaa
Junior Member
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12-16-2023, 11:10 PM
#7
The idea is that DDR5 reduces the channel width by half to handle timing more efficiently across many channels at high speeds. A single 64-bit channel is split into two, making bus management simpler. It's like using two shorter pieces of wood instead of one longer one—same material, easier handling.
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kyraaa
12-16-2023, 11:10 PM #7

The idea is that DDR5 reduces the channel width by half to handle timing more efficiently across many channels at high speeds. A single 64-bit channel is split into two, making bus management simpler. It's like using two shorter pieces of wood instead of one longer one—same material, easier handling.

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pinoybusta12
Member
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12-24-2023, 01:18 PM
#8
It remains unchanged despite the added complexity, as we now face twice the workload. I remember some initial press decisions focused on specifying bit-width to prevent channel misunderstandings. Perhaps we had to redefine what constitutes a channel so current practices align. Or it might still be technically flawed, but nobody bothers. It’s similar to the push in recent years to fix the confusion around MHz when discussing RAM speeds. After all, it’s not my decision. The industry has handled its own challenges.
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pinoybusta12
12-24-2023, 01:18 PM #8

It remains unchanged despite the added complexity, as we now face twice the workload. I remember some initial press decisions focused on specifying bit-width to prevent channel misunderstandings. Perhaps we had to redefine what constitutes a channel so current practices align. Or it might still be technically flawed, but nobody bothers. It’s similar to the push in recent years to fix the confusion around MHz when discussing RAM speeds. After all, it’s not my decision. The industry has handled its own challenges.

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Hearts_Attack
Member
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12-24-2023, 07:23 PM
#9
Although it's not accurate, it's the simplest way for those less familiar with technology to grasp.
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Hearts_Attack
12-24-2023, 07:23 PM #9

Although it's not accurate, it's the simplest way for those less familiar with technology to grasp.