F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop They exist in different forms and industries, so PGA latching mechanisms aren't directly comparable to Intel's.

They exist in different forms and industries, so PGA latching mechanisms aren't directly comparable to Intel's.

They exist in different forms and industries, so PGA latching mechanisms aren't directly comparable to Intel's.

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Meta_B
Junior Member
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10-19-2016, 09:01 PM
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no i am not talking about LGA vs PGA. 1) but instead i am furious at how many posts i have seen for the last 12 months about people ripping out CPU with cooler? rant : i have read 100s of comments saying how much they fear if they got any PGA cpu and it's not in motherboard (we are talking about normal people now don't go and say let them but a cpu tray.) explaining there fear of dropping/falling of cpu accidentally and bending of pins for silly reason. rant end. --------------------------------------------- actual question - 2) Why are there not any PGA latching "mechanisms" like intel has? damn it this is 2021 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) and then there's this guy who makes cpu cleaning look like this (the mom art of this video) 4) well i think the only two things which gives a LGA socket an extra point over PGA socket is that you can clean thermal paste easily even if u put thermal paste in cpu socket or CPUs golden on dots the other thing is the cpu holding system/ latch LGA has! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- actual questions - 5) Why can't PGA socket have that kind of mechanism? or something similar? what are your thoughts on this? 6) is there anyone who has created a mod to hold PGA cpu or latching system for PGA?
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Meta_B
10-19-2016, 09:01 PM #1

no i am not talking about LGA vs PGA. 1) but instead i am furious at how many posts i have seen for the last 12 months about people ripping out CPU with cooler? rant : i have read 100s of comments saying how much they fear if they got any PGA cpu and it's not in motherboard (we are talking about normal people now don't go and say let them but a cpu tray.) explaining there fear of dropping/falling of cpu accidentally and bending of pins for silly reason. rant end. --------------------------------------------- actual question - 2) Why are there not any PGA latching "mechanisms" like intel has? damn it this is 2021 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) and then there's this guy who makes cpu cleaning look like this (the mom art of this video) 4) well i think the only two things which gives a LGA socket an extra point over PGA socket is that you can clean thermal paste easily even if u put thermal paste in cpu socket or CPUs golden on dots the other thing is the cpu holding system/ latch LGA has! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- actual questions - 5) Why can't PGA socket have that kind of mechanism? or something similar? what are your thoughts on this? 6) is there anyone who has created a mod to hold PGA cpu or latching system for PGA?

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LeonardoGame
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10-25-2016, 04:48 AM
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There’s no clear advantage to using PGA over AMD’s design, and the cleaning process for LGA sockets remains challenging even with thermal paste.
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LeonardoGame
10-25-2016, 04:48 AM #2

There’s no clear advantage to using PGA over AMD’s design, and the cleaning process for LGA sockets remains challenging even with thermal paste.

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joe7580
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10-25-2016, 11:18 AM
#3
If you're worried about damaging your CPU, this thermal bracket from Thermalright offers a secure fit for AMD AM4 models. It includes TF7 silicone grease and is designed for fans and cooling solutions. Available on AliExpress.
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joe7580
10-25-2016, 11:18 AM #3

If you're worried about damaging your CPU, this thermal bracket from Thermalright offers a secure fit for AMD AM4 models. It includes TF7 silicone grease and is designed for fans and cooling solutions. Available on AliExpress.

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Bibble_Ele
Senior Member
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10-25-2016, 03:15 PM
#4
I upgrade used computers that are given away, and this process prevented several failures caused by thermal paste turning into a strong glue.
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Bibble_Ele
10-25-2016, 03:15 PM #4

I upgrade used computers that are given away, and this process prevented several failures caused by thermal paste turning into a strong glue.

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Gingershire
Junior Member
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10-25-2016, 04:11 PM
#5
Oh no, the CPU failed... It doesn’t matter who cares. Get it back in and run it again. Why does everyone get so excited about this?
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Gingershire
10-25-2016, 04:11 PM #5

Oh no, the CPU failed... It doesn’t matter who cares. Get it back in and run it again. Why does everyone get so excited about this?

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missyT1396
Member
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10-25-2016, 05:05 PM
#6
the bent pins, cpu slipping off the heat sink after installation (that’s happened before), even damaged pins left in the socket and it takes a long time to locate them. warranty doesn’t cover bent pins because they’re so close... it’s frustrating when companies can’t fix what’s already broken. temporary fixes like warming the cpu or adjusting thermal paste don’t work for me. lgas connectors are safer, but amd might need to redesign their CPU covers. I’ve seen 12 months of pga sockets being pulled out and still facing issues, which is just a complaint thread. i’m a bit let down that after ten years there’s still no real progress on this problem. @ShrimpBrime, your thoughts would help a lot. it’s true for both lgas and pga connectors. i’ve tried it twice with my own motherboard, never had it happen before. time stamp - 07:33
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missyT1396
10-25-2016, 05:05 PM #6

the bent pins, cpu slipping off the heat sink after installation (that’s happened before), even damaged pins left in the socket and it takes a long time to locate them. warranty doesn’t cover bent pins because they’re so close... it’s frustrating when companies can’t fix what’s already broken. temporary fixes like warming the cpu or adjusting thermal paste don’t work for me. lgas connectors are safer, but amd might need to redesign their CPU covers. I’ve seen 12 months of pga sockets being pulled out and still facing issues, which is just a complaint thread. i’m a bit let down that after ten years there’s still no real progress on this problem. @ShrimpBrime, your thoughts would help a lot. it’s true for both lgas and pga connectors. i’ve tried it twice with my own motherboard, never had it happen before. time stamp - 07:33

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MegaDisco
Senior Member
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10-26-2016, 02:07 PM
#7
I misaligned the pins on my Ryzen 5 1600X due to a strange cooler latch. It only moved in one direction. After switching to the R5 3600, I removed the cooler completely and the CPU remained securely in place.
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MegaDisco
10-26-2016, 02:07 PM #7

I misaligned the pins on my Ryzen 5 1600X due to a strange cooler latch. It only moved in one direction. After switching to the R5 3600, I removed the cooler completely and the CPU remained securely in place.

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justin46332
Junior Member
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10-26-2016, 03:43 PM
#8
I understand, it's tough to hear that. Did it make it? If so, great; if not, well, goodbye. RIP (I'm in a rush right now, god darn this headache). Even straight pulling can affect the CPU due to thermal paste issues, which is why I mentioned PGA needs a better grip. Also, did anyone do any kind of modding or custom changes?
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justin46332
10-26-2016, 03:43 PM #8

I understand, it's tough to hear that. Did it make it? If so, great; if not, well, goodbye. RIP (I'm in a rush right now, god darn this headache). Even straight pulling can affect the CPU due to thermal paste issues, which is why I mentioned PGA needs a better grip. Also, did anyone do any kind of modding or custom changes?

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Mincameow
Member
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10-26-2016, 04:36 PM
#9
I retained the 1600X and believe I may have bent the pins, though I lack another AM4 board for testing. The 3600 works well. I'm currently using it.
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Mincameow
10-26-2016, 04:36 PM #9

I retained the 1600X and believe I may have bent the pins, though I lack another AM4 board for testing. The 3600 works well. I'm currently using it.

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martims098
Member
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10-26-2016, 10:34 PM
#10
It's just an opinion piece, that's all. The debate over pin types is interesting—LGA and PGA both have their place. For LGA issues like a dropped DIMM slot, a reseat usually fixes it. When a board doesn't install properly, tight cooler mounting seems to be the culprit. It's surprising how many people struggle with setup, especially beginners. I've seen several CPUs in my last 24 hours and still had to flip three boards. It's frustrating when something so simple seems to trip up newcomers. The real challenge lies with those who lack experience, but it's clear most PCs come pre-built. Why keep reinventing the socket clamp when it works perfectly for the vast majority?
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martims098
10-26-2016, 10:34 PM #10

It's just an opinion piece, that's all. The debate over pin types is interesting—LGA and PGA both have their place. For LGA issues like a dropped DIMM slot, a reseat usually fixes it. When a board doesn't install properly, tight cooler mounting seems to be the culprit. It's surprising how many people struggle with setup, especially beginners. I've seen several CPUs in my last 24 hours and still had to flip three boards. It's frustrating when something so simple seems to trip up newcomers. The real challenge lies with those who lack experience, but it's clear most PCs come pre-built. Why keep reinventing the socket clamp when it works perfectly for the vast majority?

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