F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop These options might work well for a mid-range setup.

These options might work well for a mid-range setup.

These options might work well for a mid-range setup.

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XxGrenidierXx
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06-08-2016, 10:16 PM
#11
I chose Tech City, though I should note the 5600x surpassed it during my CPU Monkey switch. It still beat most CPUs up to the 3000 series Ryzen.
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XxGrenidierXx
06-08-2016, 10:16 PM #11

I chose Tech City, though I should note the 5600x surpassed it during my CPU Monkey switch. It still beat most CPUs up to the 3000 series Ryzen.

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mcmack05
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06-09-2016, 04:54 AM
#12
7820X falls short against overclocked Zen+, offering little advantage over Zen 2. The X299 is a powerful but outdated setup packed with advanced features and quad channel DDR4 memory—though it's not worth the investment unless you prioritize extra cores at the expense of cooling and power efficiency. My experience building an X299 a few years back still holds, but I wouldn't replicate it now.
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mcmack05
06-09-2016, 04:54 AM #12

7820X falls short against overclocked Zen+, offering little advantage over Zen 2. The X299 is a powerful but outdated setup packed with advanced features and quad channel DDR4 memory—though it's not worth the investment unless you prioritize extra cores at the expense of cooling and power efficiency. My experience building an X299 a few years back still holds, but I wouldn't replicate it now.

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Kaspolman
Senior Member
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06-09-2016, 12:37 PM
#13
No? The 5600 performs better with both multi-core and single-core configurations. The 3600x is quicker on a single core but slightly slower in multi-core settings. Opt for AM4 components to avoid dealing with non-standard boards that can cost around $70–80. Also, is this intended for gaming? If yes, a Zen 2 chip is already quite fast. The X299 was quite average, and I wouldn’t consider it unless there are superior options from Intel or AMD available.
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Kaspolman
06-09-2016, 12:37 PM #13

No? The 5600 performs better with both multi-core and single-core configurations. The 3600x is quicker on a single core but slightly slower in multi-core settings. Opt for AM4 components to avoid dealing with non-standard boards that can cost around $70–80. Also, is this intended for gaming? If yes, a Zen 2 chip is already quite fast. The X299 was quite average, and I wouldn’t consider it unless there are superior options from Intel or AMD available.

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quinndog101
Junior Member
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06-09-2016, 02:21 PM
#14
the required adapters appear reasonably affordable, though I understand your perspective. edit: additionally, it's not a gaming setup, mainly involving blender and editing tasks. that’s the area where I think it might become an issue, though not necessarily impacting productivity.
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quinndog101
06-09-2016, 02:21 PM #14

the required adapters appear reasonably affordable, though I understand your perspective. edit: additionally, it's not a gaming setup, mainly involving blender and editing tasks. that’s the area where I think it might become an issue, though not necessarily impacting productivity.

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Sil3451
Junior Member
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06-11-2016, 11:12 AM
#15
Now that used Zen2/3 Ryzen9 chips are so affordable, buying an X299 feels almost silly except for the fun factor. Ryzen has made all previous Intel options obsolete from X58 through X299—whether you need a budget gaming setup? Stick with Ryzen 3 3100/3300X/3500 (or Ryzen 5 3600) paired with a new or used B450/B550 board. The X58-1151 line is now outdated, and the only remaining old Intel option is X99 workstations if you can snag one with an 1650/1660V3 at a steal. Otherwise, focus on a low-cost rig with many cores. Ryzen 9 models like 3900X, 3950X, 5900X, 5950X are still viable but likely need better components or a VRM fan (like X79, X99, X299) to keep up. The G-series is powerful enough—PSUs handle GPUs and CPUs can run at around 4GHz with throttling. If you want more cores, consider the LGA3647 line, but unless you find a cheap one, it’s unlikely. Epyc covers the rest: the 7282 is cheap for I/O, the 7K62 sits between 48C96T at about $300, and the 7763 or OEM versions (7C13) offer cores around $800, though they drop in value over time. Just keep boards under $400 unless you’re desperate.
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Sil3451
06-11-2016, 11:12 AM #15

Now that used Zen2/3 Ryzen9 chips are so affordable, buying an X299 feels almost silly except for the fun factor. Ryzen has made all previous Intel options obsolete from X58 through X299—whether you need a budget gaming setup? Stick with Ryzen 3 3100/3300X/3500 (or Ryzen 5 3600) paired with a new or used B450/B550 board. The X58-1151 line is now outdated, and the only remaining old Intel option is X99 workstations if you can snag one with an 1650/1660V3 at a steal. Otherwise, focus on a low-cost rig with many cores. Ryzen 9 models like 3900X, 3950X, 5900X, 5950X are still viable but likely need better components or a VRM fan (like X79, X99, X299) to keep up. The G-series is powerful enough—PSUs handle GPUs and CPUs can run at around 4GHz with throttling. If you want more cores, consider the LGA3647 line, but unless you find a cheap one, it’s unlikely. Epyc covers the rest: the 7282 is cheap for I/O, the 7K62 sits between 48C96T at about $300, and the 7763 or OEM versions (7C13) offer cores around $800, though they drop in value over time. Just keep boards under $400 unless you’re desperate.

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Je2Carte
Junior Member
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06-12-2016, 07:05 PM
#16
This refers to a monthly event focused on folding activities. You're welcome to participate!
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Je2Carte
06-12-2016, 07:05 PM #16

This refers to a monthly event focused on folding activities. You're welcome to participate!

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iliannoam
Junior Member
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06-13-2016, 02:28 AM
#17
Sorry, sign-ups ended a few weeks ago. Maybe you can get in on the next one! x58's been irrelevant for a few years now. Sandy Bridge was a quantum leap forward in performance per watt. Old 2011/2011-3/2066 Xeons still have the advantages of having more PCIe lanes, and the ability to use dirt cheap registered ECC RAM. If you want to build a machine to play with a lot of VMs in one box, you can do worse.
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iliannoam
06-13-2016, 02:28 AM #17

Sorry, sign-ups ended a few weeks ago. Maybe you can get in on the next one! x58's been irrelevant for a few years now. Sandy Bridge was a quantum leap forward in performance per watt. Old 2011/2011-3/2066 Xeons still have the advantages of having more PCIe lanes, and the ability to use dirt cheap registered ECC RAM. If you want to build a machine to play with a lot of VMs in one box, you can do worse.

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BestkingJoris
Member
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06-29-2016, 12:46 AM
#18
I'm really frustrated because nobody mentioned this to me. Maybe I should just move forward. Someone claimed it could help with cancer—sounds like a solid excuse to quit. @jordanbuilds1 Of course, hear me out. You're in my space, but you already have enough to start something useful. Are you really needing that computer right now? If not, try simple tasks like mowing lawns, painting fences, or cleaning gutters—anything low-skill that pays a few dollars. Save up around 400USD and you'll be in the right place for modern hardware that can later be upgraded. Unless you prefer hunting for old electronics in a dump, it's not worth the cost.
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BestkingJoris
06-29-2016, 12:46 AM #18

I'm really frustrated because nobody mentioned this to me. Maybe I should just move forward. Someone claimed it could help with cancer—sounds like a solid excuse to quit. @jordanbuilds1 Of course, hear me out. You're in my space, but you already have enough to start something useful. Are you really needing that computer right now? If not, try simple tasks like mowing lawns, painting fences, or cleaning gutters—anything low-skill that pays a few dollars. Save up around 400USD and you'll be in the right place for modern hardware that can later be upgraded. Unless you prefer hunting for old electronics in a dump, it's not worth the cost.

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lava_block
Junior Member
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07-02-2016, 02:12 PM
#19
speaks through triple channel DDR3 2800+ it’s fair to say, even now boards cost around thirty dollars or more where I live. x58 has lost a lot of value a couple years ago too, and used Ryzen models are being crushed by single-core CPUs like the 3100. Even lower power options are dropping below fifty dollars, and DDR4 prices have plummeted but remain roughly 1.5 times pricier than DDR3. I think a Dell X299 for twenty-five dollars is a decent deal if you prioritize input/output ports rather than raw CPU speed. But the CPU prices still lag behind Ryzen and X99, and 16GB modules are already affordable in OEM form. XMP drives are dropping as well. Unless ECC DDR4 is half the cost of standard DDR4 and you don’t need the I/O, it still doesn’t make sense to skip used Ryzen X58. You could also try ECC on an Xeon, but I’ve had trouble getting it to work on my 32nm models. It might be a hardware issue, so maybe swapping in an EBB from an X58A OC into your X58A UD3s could work—something forums have managed to do with 32nm chips.
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lava_block
07-02-2016, 02:12 PM #19

speaks through triple channel DDR3 2800+ it’s fair to say, even now boards cost around thirty dollars or more where I live. x58 has lost a lot of value a couple years ago too, and used Ryzen models are being crushed by single-core CPUs like the 3100. Even lower power options are dropping below fifty dollars, and DDR4 prices have plummeted but remain roughly 1.5 times pricier than DDR3. I think a Dell X299 for twenty-five dollars is a decent deal if you prioritize input/output ports rather than raw CPU speed. But the CPU prices still lag behind Ryzen and X99, and 16GB modules are already affordable in OEM form. XMP drives are dropping as well. Unless ECC DDR4 is half the cost of standard DDR4 and you don’t need the I/O, it still doesn’t make sense to skip used Ryzen X58. You could also try ECC on an Xeon, but I’ve had trouble getting it to work on my 32nm models. It might be a hardware issue, so maybe swapping in an EBB from an X58A OC into your X58A UD3s could work—something forums have managed to do with 32nm chips.

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SrSniper28
Member
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07-04-2016, 02:16 AM
#20
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SrSniper28
07-04-2016, 02:16 AM #20

This could be a fascinating and learning experience. Who knows what we might discover inside, unless you reside in a bustling metropolis rather than a quiet village? I recommend purchasing a h81+e3 1231v3 with p106 (pricing varies based on budget, higher is preferable).

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