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These desktop CPUs became available in the early 2000s, with significant releases starting around 2003.

These desktop CPUs became available in the early 2000s, with significant releases starting around 2003.

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wimpyfail
Junior Member
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05-24-2016, 03:17 AM
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I have some queries about Arm desktop CPUs. I’d like to know when they’ll be available.
What are the pros and cons of ARM processors?
Are ARM chips superior to Intel’s x86 or AMD options? Can Intel and AMD make ARM-based CPUs? Thanks!
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wimpyfail
05-24-2016, 03:17 AM #1

I have some queries about Arm desktop CPUs. I’d like to know when they’ll be available.
What are the pros and cons of ARM processors?
Are ARM chips superior to Intel’s x86 or AMD options? Can Intel and AMD make ARM-based CPUs? Thanks!

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Babu84700
Member
226
05-24-2016, 08:44 AM
#2
1. Depends on what you call a desktop, but now in things like the mac mini and iMac. 2. Lots of videos and articles out there, but for most uses, not too much of a change. You probably won't notice the difference in most uses. 3. Amd has made arm cpus before, but nether have performance chips currently.
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Babu84700
05-24-2016, 08:44 AM #2

1. Depends on what you call a desktop, but now in things like the mac mini and iMac. 2. Lots of videos and articles out there, but for most uses, not too much of a change. You probably won't notice the difference in most uses. 3. Amd has made arm cpus before, but nether have performance chips currently.

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xAPPLExPIEx
Senior Member
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05-24-2016, 04:44 PM
#3
Refers to the consumer CPU units available for our project. Apologies for the oversight. Thanks for your reply!
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xAPPLExPIEx
05-24-2016, 04:44 PM #3

Refers to the consumer CPU units available for our project. Apologies for the oversight. Thanks for your reply!

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murderman25
Member
168
05-31-2016, 12:29 AM
#4
Please specify the operating system you plan to utilize for this task.
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murderman25
05-31-2016, 12:29 AM #4

Please specify the operating system you plan to utilize for this task.

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RoniBG
Junior Member
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06-01-2016, 02:34 AM
#5
The main problem right now is that Windows doesn't work well with ARM devices. Because most apps aren't built for ARM, we have to run them through emulators, which causes a huge slowdown. Any performance or efficiency improvements from ARM won't actually happen when using emulation. It seems big applications probably won't move to ARM on Windows anytime soon.
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RoniBG
06-01-2016, 02:34 AM #5

The main problem right now is that Windows doesn't work well with ARM devices. Because most apps aren't built for ARM, we have to run them through emulators, which causes a huge slowdown. Any performance or efficiency improvements from ARM won't actually happen when using emulation. It seems big applications probably won't move to ARM on Windows anytime soon.

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clubquak
Junior Member
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06-01-2016, 10:45 AM
#6
The key factors are low power consumption and compact size. Which benefit matters most depends on your needs. Consider whether these pros match any drawbacks for you. The workload you expect will also influence the decision. For more details, check the article here: https://www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-...ed-568718/
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clubquak
06-01-2016, 10:45 AM #6

The key factors are low power consumption and compact size. Which benefit matters most depends on your needs. Consider whether these pros match any drawbacks for you. The workload you expect will also influence the decision. For more details, check the article here: https://www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-...ed-568718/

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SpinnSky
Member
73
06-02-2016, 01:09 PM
#7
Windows on ARM isn't ideal, macOS seems preferable, but its closed design makes running on a Linux desktop challenging. Although it's somewhat better than other options, it still has limited software support. Linux appears more promising overall, though it may take some time to improve.
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SpinnSky
06-02-2016, 01:09 PM #7

Windows on ARM isn't ideal, macOS seems preferable, but its closed design makes running on a Linux desktop challenging. Although it's somewhat better than other options, it still has limited software support. Linux appears more promising overall, though it may take some time to improve.

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sniperboy650
Senior Member
735
06-02-2016, 01:41 PM
#8
Windows for ARM devices may improve over time.
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sniperboy650
06-02-2016, 01:41 PM #8

Windows for ARM devices may improve over time.

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OcelotNinja
Member
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06-04-2016, 12:58 PM
#9
Low power results in reduced heat generation, which is why MacBooks outperform many other laptops on the market. In environments where air cooling fails, passive cooling from the ARM CPU can address those issues. Also, x86 processors will likely need to be upgraded to more efficient alternatives soon.
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OcelotNinja
06-04-2016, 12:58 PM #9

Low power results in reduced heat generation, which is why MacBooks outperform many other laptops on the market. In environments where air cooling fails, passive cooling from the ARM CPU can address those issues. Also, x86 processors will likely need to be upgraded to more efficient alternatives soon.

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rEalLy_Cr4zY
Member
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06-04-2016, 01:45 PM
#10
It'll take some time before PC All in Ones keeps up with Apple's iMacs. They might really enjoy it, but there isn't a practical desktop ARM processor ready for PC makers yet. Microsoft and Qualcomm are developing one, though their progress has been modest. For traditional desktops, it seems unlikely for a long time. Projects like RISC-V aim to build a more efficient RISC CPU that could outperform current CISC designs, but they're still far from commercial success. The main appeal of ARM and similar RISC tech is energy savings, which isn't usually a priority for desktop users. Power remains abundant, so performance gains are limited. Eventually, power-saving features in new processors like Alder Lake's big.LITTLE architecture may help bridge the gap, providing strength when needed without excessive consumption.
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rEalLy_Cr4zY
06-04-2016, 01:45 PM #10

It'll take some time before PC All in Ones keeps up with Apple's iMacs. They might really enjoy it, but there isn't a practical desktop ARM processor ready for PC makers yet. Microsoft and Qualcomm are developing one, though their progress has been modest. For traditional desktops, it seems unlikely for a long time. Projects like RISC-V aim to build a more efficient RISC CPU that could outperform current CISC designs, but they're still far from commercial success. The main appeal of ARM and similar RISC tech is energy savings, which isn't usually a priority for desktop users. Power remains abundant, so performance gains are limited. Eventually, power-saving features in new processors like Alder Lake's big.LITTLE architecture may help bridge the gap, providing strength when needed without excessive consumption.

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