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q_viktor_p
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09-18-2016, 10:17 AM
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Is there any program similar to PassMark where you can input your parts list and receive a range of possible performance results? Or is there a method using a basic tool to combine performance data from a parts list? I'm wondering this because my students are eager to build PCs, but the school can't afford to purchase PCs or components for even a small fraction of classes. I believe it would be very motivating for them to see how their part choices affect performance in an easy-to-understand way, just like PassMark does with its real build tests.
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q_viktor_p
09-18-2016, 10:17 AM #1

Is there any program similar to PassMark where you can input your parts list and receive a range of possible performance results? Or is there a method using a basic tool to combine performance data from a parts list? I'm wondering this because my students are eager to build PCs, but the school can't afford to purchase PCs or components for even a small fraction of classes. I believe it would be very motivating for them to see how their part choices affect performance in an easy-to-understand way, just like PassMark does with its real build tests.

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Fireking124
Senior Member
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09-25-2016, 11:58 PM
#2
I don't know about a program to do what you're asking, but there are these resources to check how systems perform:
https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboar...gpu/page-1
PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks
PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - Over 1 million CPUs and 1,000 models displayed in graphs, updated daily!
www.cpubenchmark.net
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Fireking124
09-25-2016, 11:58 PM #2

I don't know about a program to do what you're asking, but there are these resources to check how systems perform:
https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboar...gpu/page-1
PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks
PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - Over 1 million CPUs and 1,000 models displayed in graphs, updated daily!
www.cpubenchmark.net

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Emuril23
Member
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09-26-2016, 01:59 AM
#3
Thanks for these suggestions. I'm open to having students handle all the addition tasks like total scores, but I was thinking about an integrated approach where parts from Part Picker could provide an aggregated view of real performance. Part Picker would naturally be involved in the assignment process, handling pricing, required components, and compatibility checks. I also need to think about whether many of these sites could bypass the firewall, which is currently quite restrictive, even though students have already found ways around it for games.

I observed that Epic Games offers a PC Building Simulator, but I doubt I'd be able to convince enough people to get that site through the firewall, at least not convincingly. lol
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Emuril23
09-26-2016, 01:59 AM #3

Thanks for these suggestions. I'm open to having students handle all the addition tasks like total scores, but I was thinking about an integrated approach where parts from Part Picker could provide an aggregated view of real performance. Part Picker would naturally be involved in the assignment process, handling pricing, required components, and compatibility checks. I also need to think about whether many of these sites could bypass the firewall, which is currently quite restrictive, even though students have already found ways around it for games.

I observed that Epic Games offers a PC Building Simulator, but I doubt I'd be able to convince enough people to get that site through the firewall, at least not convincingly. lol

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Baby_Nae
Member
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09-26-2016, 06:17 AM
#4
As mentioned before, I am not familiar with any integrated solution that can replicate a build and offer an estimate of its performance. You are aware that many elements influence a PC's performance. I would not even attempt to guide your students in circumventing school network security protocols. My primary concern would be to remove those restrictions (assuming you refer to jailbreaking for Apple devices or rooting for Android).

Do you have the means to afford PC Building Simulator on Steam?
I recommend contacting Intel and AMD for potential funding opportunities to support future classes:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...it...osity.html
https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/corpora...glabs.html

There are additional programs available as well. For instance:
https://stemfinity.com/pages/stem-grants-maryland
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Baby_Nae
09-26-2016, 06:17 AM #4

As mentioned before, I am not familiar with any integrated solution that can replicate a build and offer an estimate of its performance. You are aware that many elements influence a PC's performance. I would not even attempt to guide your students in circumventing school network security protocols. My primary concern would be to remove those restrictions (assuming you refer to jailbreaking for Apple devices or rooting for Android).

Do you have the means to afford PC Building Simulator on Steam?
I recommend contacting Intel and AMD for potential funding opportunities to support future classes:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...it...osity.html
https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/corpora...glabs.html

There are additional programs available as well. For instance:
https://stemfinity.com/pages/stem-grants-maryland

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seeker07
Senior Member
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10-01-2016, 03:08 AM
#5
Purchase multiple units of second-hand Intel CPUs from third and fourth generation models, DDR3 or DDR4, for PCs or laptops at a low cost when the institution lacks sufficient funding.
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seeker07
10-01-2016, 03:08 AM #5

Purchase multiple units of second-hand Intel CPUs from third and fourth generation models, DDR3 or DDR4, for PCs or laptops at a low cost when the institution lacks sufficient funding.

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Fungus12
Member
210
10-01-2016, 09:13 AM
#6
I'm not pushing for circumventing the firewall. I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion. What I'm saying is that many students have already used their devices to play games, and the system tracks this activity. It keeps insisting on strict compliance with firewall rules and internet guidelines.

What I really want is something different—something that allows students to test their options safely. A tool or program that can pass security checks so they can simulate building PCs according to certain settings.

I'm not interested in purchasing or creating hardware at the moment. Instead, I'm after a simpler way for students to assess their decisions by entering data into a software or online platform that measures how well their choices perform, similar to how a benchmark would evaluate a finished build.
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Fungus12
10-01-2016, 09:13 AM #6

I'm not pushing for circumventing the firewall. I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion. What I'm saying is that many students have already used their devices to play games, and the system tracks this activity. It keeps insisting on strict compliance with firewall rules and internet guidelines.

What I really want is something different—something that allows students to test their options safely. A tool or program that can pass security checks so they can simulate building PCs according to certain settings.

I'm not interested in purchasing or creating hardware at the moment. Instead, I'm after a simpler way for students to assess their decisions by entering data into a software or online platform that measures how well their choices perform, similar to how a benchmark would evaluate a finished build.

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walmartmic
Member
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10-21-2016, 07:16 PM
#7
The cost for joining the class might need to cover updating or adjusting the equipment to meet school rules.
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walmartmic
10-21-2016, 07:16 PM #7

The cost for joining the class might need to cover updating or adjusting the equipment to meet school rules.

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whymedudeman
Member
140
10-22-2016, 03:12 AM
#8
They use Chromebooks. I support resetting devices for this class, in general. I came across this by exploring...
https://www.pcbenchmarks.net/builder.php
It contains the key information at the beginning. Probably not as thorough as I expected...
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whymedudeman
10-22-2016, 03:12 AM #8

They use Chromebooks. I support resetting devices for this class, in general. I came across this by exploring...
https://www.pcbenchmarks.net/builder.php
It contains the key information at the beginning. Probably not as thorough as I expected...

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trj55
Member
175
10-22-2016, 03:27 AM
#9
It seems to pull from their database. Basic enough, yet offers some capability to meet your needs, though with some restrictions.
A brief check might show a slight delay in the tech timeline.
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trj55
10-22-2016, 03:27 AM #9

It seems to pull from their database. Basic enough, yet offers some capability to meet your needs, though with some restrictions.
A brief check might show a slight delay in the tech timeline.