F5F Stay Refreshed Power Users Overclocking The upgrade from Sandy Bridge to KabyLake is under consideration.

The upgrade from Sandy Bridge to KabyLake is under consideration.

The upgrade from Sandy Bridge to KabyLake is under consideration.

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Dnomge
Member
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08-12-2017, 02:32 AM
#1
I have a 1050 ti, non-k i5 2500 and 8GB of 1333mhz RAM. Stock timings, stock cooling. Should I upgrade to KabyLake i5 7600K and 16GB (with mobo upgrade ofc)? To me, the price-performance ratio isn't worth it with new hardware. I also think the KabyLake system won't be as future-proof as the i5 2500k has been. This is the most cost-effective option I've thought about for a PC right now (currently a KBYLAKE mobo, RAM and CPU plus cooling costing around $800) and I'm worried I might be making a mistake. I'm only seriously thinking about an upgrade because a friend wants to help, he believes my PC is outdated simply because it's older. He's offering to help finance the change. Should I just upgrade to 2100mhz RAM, a P67 motherboard and a 2500k for overclocking, or should I just go with a modern system?

I do a lot of music production (though I sometimes run into issues), movie editing, and a lot of gaming. My main concern is whether buying KabyLake will introduce new technology in the next five years that makes everything obsolete, or if it will still be reliable for at least seven years like Sandy Bridge does. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty confident someone here has more experience than me.
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Dnomge
08-12-2017, 02:32 AM #1

I have a 1050 ti, non-k i5 2500 and 8GB of 1333mhz RAM. Stock timings, stock cooling. Should I upgrade to KabyLake i5 7600K and 16GB (with mobo upgrade ofc)? To me, the price-performance ratio isn't worth it with new hardware. I also think the KabyLake system won't be as future-proof as the i5 2500k has been. This is the most cost-effective option I've thought about for a PC right now (currently a KBYLAKE mobo, RAM and CPU plus cooling costing around $800) and I'm worried I might be making a mistake. I'm only seriously thinking about an upgrade because a friend wants to help, he believes my PC is outdated simply because it's older. He's offering to help finance the change. Should I just upgrade to 2100mhz RAM, a P67 motherboard and a 2500k for overclocking, or should I just go with a modern system?

I do a lot of music production (though I sometimes run into issues), movie editing, and a lot of gaming. My main concern is whether buying KabyLake will introduce new technology in the next five years that makes everything obsolete, or if it will still be reliable for at least seven years like Sandy Bridge does. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty confident someone here has more experience than me.

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GreenLightFabi
Senior Member
696
08-12-2017, 04:36 AM
#2
I think I'd hold out until you can get a Coffee Lake or the Coffee Lake supply situation gets better. Coffee Lake ups the core counts, which added to the ipc improvements, makes Coffee Lake more compelling than Kaby Lake and a 1050ti is likely to be the limiting factor for either modern CPU, so there's no real game necessity to doing it right now. The 7600k is a real improvement, but it's incremental, not revolutionary.
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GreenLightFabi
08-12-2017, 04:36 AM #2

I think I'd hold out until you can get a Coffee Lake or the Coffee Lake supply situation gets better. Coffee Lake ups the core counts, which added to the ipc improvements, makes Coffee Lake more compelling than Kaby Lake and a 1050ti is likely to be the limiting factor for either modern CPU, so there's no real game necessity to doing it right now. The 7600k is a real improvement, but it's incremental, not revolutionary.

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Shikeishuu_
Member
154
08-12-2017, 10:49 AM
#3
I think I'd hold out until you can get a Coffee Lake or the Coffee Lake supply situation gets better. Coffee Lake ups the core counts, which added to the ipc improvements, makes Coffee Lake more compelling than Kaby Lake and a 1050ti is likely to be the limiting factor for either modern CPU, so there's no real game necessity to doing it right now. The 7600k is a real improvement, but it's incremental, not revolutionary.
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Shikeishuu_
08-12-2017, 10:49 AM #3

I think I'd hold out until you can get a Coffee Lake or the Coffee Lake supply situation gets better. Coffee Lake ups the core counts, which added to the ipc improvements, makes Coffee Lake more compelling than Kaby Lake and a 1050ti is likely to be the limiting factor for either modern CPU, so there's no real game necessity to doing it right now. The 7600k is a real improvement, but it's incremental, not revolutionary.

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Heyello
Member
196
08-13-2017, 05:36 AM
#4
Well, if you decide to upgrade, the 8th generation would be a much better option. Even with just an i5-8400 plus Z370 motherboard and new RAM, it still outperforms the 7600K, particularly for non-gaming tasks. If you manage to get an i5-8600K, that would provide a solid setup for several years.
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Heyello
08-13-2017, 05:36 AM #4

Well, if you decide to upgrade, the 8th generation would be a much better option. Even with just an i5-8400 plus Z370 motherboard and new RAM, it still outperforms the 7600K, particularly for non-gaming tasks. If you manage to get an i5-8600K, that would provide a solid setup for several years.

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CrushJPO
Member
170
08-13-2017, 07:22 AM
#5
I agree with the coffee lake solution. (I don't believe the OP conducted the necessary research to realize that kabylake is a supporting factor)
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CrushJPO
08-13-2017, 07:22 AM #5

I agree with the coffee lake solution. (I don't believe the OP conducted the necessary research to realize that kabylake is a supporting factor)

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FuzzyMug
Senior Member
476
08-14-2017, 07:50 AM
#6
It seems you're considering whether it's more beneficial to invest in Coffee Lake or the upcoming Ice Lake instead of just adding a 1080 to an OC'd 2500k. There might be some delays, but you could always upgrade the CPU later and include a 1080 right away. Thanks for your prompt responses.
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FuzzyMug
08-14-2017, 07:50 AM #6

It seems you're considering whether it's more beneficial to invest in Coffee Lake or the upcoming Ice Lake instead of just adding a 1080 to an OC'd 2500k. There might be some delays, but you could always upgrade the CPU later and include a 1080 right away. Thanks for your prompt responses.

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lucydog2
Junior Member
4
08-14-2017, 04:13 PM
#7
ARICH5 :
I agree with the coffee lake solution. (I don’t think the OP did the research to realize that kabylake is a good alternative.)
I checked the details but wasn’t convinced the jump was that significant. I saw some benchmarks before, but nothing really caught my attention. (I don’t care about the newest version, just the price vs performance.)
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lucydog2
08-14-2017, 04:13 PM #7

ARICH5 :
I agree with the coffee lake solution. (I don’t think the OP did the research to realize that kabylake is a good alternative.)
I checked the details but wasn’t convinced the jump was that significant. I saw some benchmarks before, but nothing really caught my attention. (I don’t care about the newest version, just the price vs performance.)

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lucarich
Member
133
08-14-2017, 04:51 PM
#8
Interesting, so I’d likely be better off heading to Coffee Lake (or the supposed Ice Lake next year) instead of just installing a 1080 into an OC'd 2500k. (I know there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have a 1080 ready to go.) Thanks for the quick replies.
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lucarich
08-14-2017, 04:51 PM #8

Interesting, so I’d likely be better off heading to Coffee Lake (or the supposed Ice Lake next year) instead of just installing a 1080 into an OC'd 2500k. (I know there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have a 1080 ready to go.) Thanks for the quick replies.

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08-16-2017, 07:36 AM
#9
DSzymborski :
joelwalkingzombie :
Interesting, so I’d prefer Coffee Lake in the long term instead of just installing a 1080 into an OC'd 2500k. (I’m aware there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have a 1080 ready to go.) Thanks for your quick replies.

joelwalkingzombie :
ARICH5 :
The Coffee Lake option sounds better. I don’t think the original poster was aware that Kaby Lake is a strong alternative. I’ve done some research, but I wasn’t sure if the performance gap was significant. I saw benchmarks before, but nothing really stood out to me. (I’m more concerned about cost versus performance than having the latest generation.) I believe Coffee Lake is a better choice if you already have an i5-2500k and motherboard instead of a non-K version or an unoptimized board. Still, I’d rather invest in Coffee Lake than spend extra on an older platform. Those older parts have held their value well, so it’s not like someone with a basic Core2 system would upgrade to a $15 CPU and see the consequences.

I’ve decided to go with the Coffee Lake i5 8600K setup. It’s roughly the same price as the Kaby Lake build I was considering if I reduced RAM a bit. Future updates like RAM and GPU will be available, but I’m comfortable with a current Z370 and 8GB of 2400MHz RAM. I’m really excited! Especially to test its performance in music production.
Now I just need to update my 5400RPM HDDs *facepalm
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BlackEagles259
08-16-2017, 07:36 AM #9

DSzymborski :
joelwalkingzombie :
Interesting, so I’d prefer Coffee Lake in the long term instead of just installing a 1080 into an OC'd 2500k. (I’m aware there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have a 1080 ready to go.) Thanks for your quick replies.

joelwalkingzombie :
ARICH5 :
The Coffee Lake option sounds better. I don’t think the original poster was aware that Kaby Lake is a strong alternative. I’ve done some research, but I wasn’t sure if the performance gap was significant. I saw benchmarks before, but nothing really stood out to me. (I’m more concerned about cost versus performance than having the latest generation.) I believe Coffee Lake is a better choice if you already have an i5-2500k and motherboard instead of a non-K version or an unoptimized board. Still, I’d rather invest in Coffee Lake than spend extra on an older platform. Those older parts have held their value well, so it’s not like someone with a basic Core2 system would upgrade to a $15 CPU and see the consequences.

I’ve decided to go with the Coffee Lake i5 8600K setup. It’s roughly the same price as the Kaby Lake build I was considering if I reduced RAM a bit. Future updates like RAM and GPU will be available, but I’m comfortable with a current Z370 and 8GB of 2400MHz RAM. I’m really excited! Especially to test its performance in music production.
Now I just need to update my 5400RPM HDDs *facepalm

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NolanPlays
Junior Member
34
08-16-2017, 01:00 PM
#10
Interesting, so I think it would be wiser to move to Coffee Lake (or the expected Ice Lake next year) instead of just adding a 1080 to an OC'd 2500k. (I know there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have the 1080 installed right away)
Thanks for your quick replies
So, in any case, if I understand correctly, you’re planning to replace RAM, the motherboard, and the CPU (and GPU too, though that’s not an issue since the GPU can be moved to a newer build while other parts can’t). Then why purchase components from several generations old? I could agree with your point about Kaby Lake versus 2500K – it doesn’t really offer any new performance, just a slight boost. But the 8th generation provides not only speed but also more cores, which really matters (and will matter even more in the future).
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NolanPlays
08-16-2017, 01:00 PM #10

Interesting, so I think it would be wiser to move to Coffee Lake (or the expected Ice Lake next year) instead of just adding a 1080 to an OC'd 2500k. (I know there could be bottlenecks, but I could always upgrade the CPU later and have the 1080 installed right away)
Thanks for your quick replies
So, in any case, if I understand correctly, you’re planning to replace RAM, the motherboard, and the CPU (and GPU too, though that’s not an issue since the GPU can be moved to a newer build while other parts can’t). Then why purchase components from several generations old? I could agree with your point about Kaby Lake versus 2500K – it doesn’t really offer any new performance, just a slight boost. But the 8th generation provides not only speed but also more cores, which really matters (and will matter even more in the future).

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