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The story about cpu cores

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JetFighter01
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06-30-2016, 07:24 PM
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It consumes more energy and the 9600 K glitches severely in numerous games. I don't belong to your faith.
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JetFighter01
06-30-2016, 07:24 PM #21

It consumes more energy and the 9600 K glitches severely in numerous games. I don't belong to your faith.

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Yuchubu
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07-01-2016, 04:44 PM
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These two Intel articles provide a clear overview. They are referenced in earlier comments. The basic idea of Intel® Core™ processors is a distinct design strategy. The underlying concepts and ideas aren’t brand new. Nearly everyone using a smartphone relies on a processor built with similar principles, inspired by ARM’s big.LITTLE architecture. Intel’s approach offers more adaptable software tools to decide task placement (Thread Director), compared to ARM’s big.LITTLE setup. However, ARM has also introduced DynamicIQ. In summary, each architecture has its strengths and weaknesses, which is why there are many options available. The P & E core Intel chips tend to excel in mixed tasks since the E cores handle background work while P cores focus on performance, offering better efficiency, lower power consumption, and cooler operation—leading to higher clock speeds with less heat. If you need a single specific task, a specialized processor is often more suitable (like ASICs for crypto mining). Others have noted that software complexity can increase with P & E cores. In the future, hybrid designs are likely to dominate, prompting further refinements in supply chains, toolchains, compilers, operating systems, and more. Climate change and government regulations may also drive more efficient CPU designs, especially for desktop performance, similar to how engine technology adapts for fuel efficiency.
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Yuchubu
07-01-2016, 04:44 PM #22

These two Intel articles provide a clear overview. They are referenced in earlier comments. The basic idea of Intel® Core™ processors is a distinct design strategy. The underlying concepts and ideas aren’t brand new. Nearly everyone using a smartphone relies on a processor built with similar principles, inspired by ARM’s big.LITTLE architecture. Intel’s approach offers more adaptable software tools to decide task placement (Thread Director), compared to ARM’s big.LITTLE setup. However, ARM has also introduced DynamicIQ. In summary, each architecture has its strengths and weaknesses, which is why there are many options available. The P & E core Intel chips tend to excel in mixed tasks since the E cores handle background work while P cores focus on performance, offering better efficiency, lower power consumption, and cooler operation—leading to higher clock speeds with less heat. If you need a single specific task, a specialized processor is often more suitable (like ASICs for crypto mining). Others have noted that software complexity can increase with P & E cores. In the future, hybrid designs are likely to dominate, prompting further refinements in supply chains, toolchains, compilers, operating systems, and more. Climate change and government regulations may also drive more efficient CPU designs, especially for desktop performance, similar to how engine technology adapts for fuel efficiency.

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Casper_KS
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07-01-2016, 10:56 PM
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Timing was perfect: the findings are intriguing, supporting the idea that Intel was likely the better choice for my NAS/server and router. I should have realized from the 5950X specs in Ryzen Master that the SoC stays under 20W, which means the IO die uses more power than the CPU at idle.
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Casper_KS
07-01-2016, 10:56 PM #23

Timing was perfect: the findings are intriguing, supporting the idea that Intel was likely the better choice for my NAS/server and router. I should have realized from the 5950X specs in Ryzen Master that the SoC stays under 20W, which means the IO die uses more power than the CPU at idle.

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Vinceb11
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07-22-2016, 01:11 PM
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Interesting scheduling The main concern is the emphasis on gaming, yet that was the point he aimed to address, which isn’t entirely reasonable. Once you move past gaming, the overall performance trends become clear—(VF curve, voltage/frequency) clearly demonstrate what I mentioned earlier. (VF curve, voltage/frequency) placing the 14700k on its efficiency line is impressive. However, as Steve pointed out, this isn’t a scenario for anyone purchasing a K chip. It’s more suited for businesses that acquire fleets of T-suffix chips, such as these [link]. What complicates matters with Intel K components is their automatic overclocking behavior similar to what we did with CPUs in the past using turbos. We’d run a 95W Sandy Bridge at 3.8GHz and push it to 150W+ at 4.7GHz. Socket 1700 CPUs with the K suffix handle this independently via their own infinite turbo settings. AMD parts follow the same approach with PBO2, and for a home desktop outside a fleet setting, it’s usually the best path. It just adds complexity when trying to assess the efficiency of any Intel chip, since these designs are engineered to overclock aggressively at the extremes of the VF curve.
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Vinceb11
07-22-2016, 01:11 PM #24

Interesting scheduling The main concern is the emphasis on gaming, yet that was the point he aimed to address, which isn’t entirely reasonable. Once you move past gaming, the overall performance trends become clear—(VF curve, voltage/frequency) clearly demonstrate what I mentioned earlier. (VF curve, voltage/frequency) placing the 14700k on its efficiency line is impressive. However, as Steve pointed out, this isn’t a scenario for anyone purchasing a K chip. It’s more suited for businesses that acquire fleets of T-suffix chips, such as these [link]. What complicates matters with Intel K components is their automatic overclocking behavior similar to what we did with CPUs in the past using turbos. We’d run a 95W Sandy Bridge at 3.8GHz and push it to 150W+ at 4.7GHz. Socket 1700 CPUs with the K suffix handle this independently via their own infinite turbo settings. AMD parts follow the same approach with PBO2, and for a home desktop outside a fleet setting, it’s usually the best path. It just adds complexity when trying to assess the efficiency of any Intel chip, since these designs are engineered to overclock aggressively at the extremes of the VF curve.

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