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The story about cpu cores

The story about cpu cores

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AlphaKitty2000
Junior Member
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03-26-2016, 01:00 AM
#1
Sure, I'd be happy to clarify. Intel uses different numbers of cores for their processors, but having more E cores doesn't automatically mean they're slower. It depends on various factors like architecture and workload. AMD focuses on core count but also emphasizes performance per core. It's not just about the number of cores, but how well they work together. Let me know if you'd like more details!
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AlphaKitty2000
03-26-2016, 01:00 AM #1

Sure, I'd be happy to clarify. Intel uses different numbers of cores for their processors, but having more E cores doesn't automatically mean they're slower. It depends on various factors like architecture and workload. AMD focuses on core count but also emphasizes performance per core. It's not just about the number of cores, but how well they work together. Let me know if you'd like more details!

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haczykow
Member
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03-26-2016, 01:43 AM
#2
They claim to conserve energy, yet it seems they prefer uniformity over innovation. It looks like they push for progress without regard to practical value.
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haczykow
03-26-2016, 01:43 AM #2

They claim to conserve energy, yet it seems they prefer uniformity over innovation. It looks like they push for progress without regard to practical value.

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Fred10244
Posting Freak
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03-31-2016, 05:35 AM
#3
Intel reports they can accommodate four E Cores within the footprint of one P core. Given each E Core delivers roughly 30% more performance than a P core, you effectively achieve a 120% boost for the same speed if the workload supports it. You still retain a few P cores for single-threaded tasks, though most of those are limited to six to eight cores. The concept is based on theory; in reality, compatibility issues remain significant due to software limitations. This approach likely originated from adapting ARM designs for better efficiency, but since those efficiency cores didn’t perform well, the decision probably stemmed from balancing trade-offs. AMD has opted for homogeneous CPUs now, citing the downsides outweighing the gains. Rumors suggest they’re exploring hybrid solutions, which could mean both companies are moving toward mixed architectures within the next couple of years.
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Fred10244
03-31-2016, 05:35 AM #3

Intel reports they can accommodate four E Cores within the footprint of one P core. Given each E Core delivers roughly 30% more performance than a P core, you effectively achieve a 120% boost for the same speed if the workload supports it. You still retain a few P cores for single-threaded tasks, though most of those are limited to six to eight cores. The concept is based on theory; in reality, compatibility issues remain significant due to software limitations. This approach likely originated from adapting ARM designs for better efficiency, but since those efficiency cores didn’t perform well, the decision probably stemmed from balancing trade-offs. AMD has opted for homogeneous CPUs now, citing the downsides outweighing the gains. Rumors suggest they’re exploring hybrid solutions, which could mean both companies are moving toward mixed architectures within the next couple of years.

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MrBertr4m
Member
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04-06-2016, 07:16 AM
#4
They move slower individually but accommodate more in a given area. This results in a quicker overall CPU performance during tasks with many threads. The idea mirrors designs like the Threadripper, which use many slower cores for better efficiency than fewer high-speed ones. Performance varies by workload—some games perform better on P cores while others gain from E cores. Additionally, Intel’s P cores are notably power-hungry compared to AMD, so they’re activated during idle times to reduce energy use.
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MrBertr4m
04-06-2016, 07:16 AM #4

They move slower individually but accommodate more in a given area. This results in a quicker overall CPU performance during tasks with many threads. The idea mirrors designs like the Threadripper, which use many slower cores for better efficiency than fewer high-speed ones. Performance varies by workload—some games perform better on P cores while others gain from E cores. Additionally, Intel’s P cores are notably power-hungry compared to AMD, so they’re activated during idle times to reduce energy use.

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Just_Ricardo
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04-08-2016, 02:31 AM
#5
I've picked up from a friend that games typically use fewer than four cores. If you're comparing something like the 14700kf with 20 cores versus the 7900x with its 12-core setup, you'd likely focus on the 7900x for multitasking and streaming. As for power usage, the 7900x draws about 170 watts while the 14700kf uses around 125 watts.
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Just_Ricardo
04-08-2016, 02:31 AM #5

I've picked up from a friend that games typically use fewer than four cores. If you're comparing something like the 14700kf with 20 cores versus the 7900x with its 12-core setup, you'd likely focus on the 7900x for multitasking and streaming. As for power usage, the 7900x draws about 170 watts while the 14700kf uses around 125 watts.

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GarciaPRO
Member
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04-08-2016, 10:45 AM
#6
It sounds promising if it functions properly, similar to the attempts they made to shut down cylinders in the early 80s—something that would be interesting if it did.
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GarciaPRO
04-08-2016, 10:45 AM #6

It sounds promising if it functions properly, similar to the attempts they made to shut down cylinders in the early 80s—something that would be interesting if it did.

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BGStacks
Member
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04-10-2016, 05:55 AM
#7
Your friend is from 2011 because what was once true ten years prior is still valid now.
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BGStacks
04-10-2016, 05:55 AM #7

Your friend is from 2011 because what was once true ten years prior is still valid now.

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Ren_17_14
Junior Member
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04-10-2016, 08:10 AM
#8
This applies to certain titles, as some games run on just one processor core. However, circumstances are shifting and recent releases can better take advantage of today's multi-core and hyperthreaded hardware.
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Ren_17_14
04-10-2016, 08:10 AM #8

This applies to certain titles, as some games run on just one processor core. However, circumstances are shifting and recent releases can better take advantage of today's multi-core and hyperthreaded hardware.

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Kool
Member
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04-12-2016, 04:13 AM
#9
They're aiming to launch a custom scheduler for multiple games, which only adds to the humor. That's why I skipped the 7950X3D. I'm not confident any firmware can handle gaming well, and Intel seems to be trying hard to extract maximum performance from their inefficient cores. Even the Celeron N100 isn't impressive compared to a Steam Deck, which has all four full Zen 2 cores. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/com...ne=3890185 The N100 uses roughly double the power for this task.
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Kool
04-12-2016, 04:13 AM #9

They're aiming to launch a custom scheduler for multiple games, which only adds to the humor. That's why I skipped the 7950X3D. I'm not confident any firmware can handle gaming well, and Intel seems to be trying hard to extract maximum performance from their inefficient cores. Even the Celeron N100 isn't impressive compared to a Steam Deck, which has all four full Zen 2 cores. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/com...ne=3890185 The N100 uses roughly double the power for this task.

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Skeetarr
Member
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04-26-2016, 06:58 PM
#10
4 cores take up the same space as one P core and use far less power per core. For tasks needing N threads, 4 cores outperform a single SMT P core at the same power draw. For select jobs with just one thread, the per-core energy use is lower even if completion time increases. Pick tasks that don’t rely on latency and prioritize N-threaded work—this approach works well. Early 80s experiments had limited success, but today’s engines deliver impressive performance. Chrysler, Mazda, GM, Honda, and Ford all implement this in modern vehicles. Where do you observe the actual power consumption on your bench?
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Skeetarr
04-26-2016, 06:58 PM #10

4 cores take up the same space as one P core and use far less power per core. For tasks needing N threads, 4 cores outperform a single SMT P core at the same power draw. For select jobs with just one thread, the per-core energy use is lower even if completion time increases. Pick tasks that don’t rely on latency and prioritize N-threaded work—this approach works well. Early 80s experiments had limited success, but today’s engines deliver impressive performance. Chrysler, Mazda, GM, Honda, and Ford all implement this in modern vehicles. Where do you observe the actual power consumption on your bench?

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