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[The solution is clear—no requirement to increase FSB for AMD FX black edition chips.]

[The solution is clear—no requirement to increase FSB for AMD FX black edition chips.]

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_xLuna
Member
59
01-03-2016, 04:27 AM
#1
I recall it from my history, though it might be hard to locate. The claim about not raising the FSB speed during overclocking an FX Black Edition chip seems accurate.
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_xLuna
01-03-2016, 04:27 AM #1

I recall it from my history, though it might be hard to locate. The claim about not raising the FSB speed during overclocking an FX Black Edition chip seems accurate.

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iRaichuComboz
Junior Member
5
01-03-2016, 08:26 AM
#2
FSB overclocking was available for owners of the non-black edition Phenom/Phenom II chips, since all FX processors have unlocked multipliers. This means you don’t need to adjust FSB if you can just modify the processor’s multiplier. However, you can still make adjustments if you’re fine-tuning an overclock to achieve the desired final speeds for both CPU and memory. It doesn’t significantly boost performance, but it can help with idle times.
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iRaichuComboz
01-03-2016, 08:26 AM #2

FSB overclocking was available for owners of the non-black edition Phenom/Phenom II chips, since all FX processors have unlocked multipliers. This means you don’t need to adjust FSB if you can just modify the processor’s multiplier. However, you can still make adjustments if you’re fine-tuning an overclock to achieve the desired final speeds for both CPU and memory. It doesn’t significantly boost performance, but it can help with idle times.

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Hermitt
Member
149
01-06-2016, 01:46 PM
#3
FSB overclocking was available for owners of the non-black edition Phenom/Phenom II chips, since all FX processors have unlocked multipliers. This means you don’t need to adjust FSB if you just change the processor’s multiplier. However, you can still make adjustments if you’re fine-tuning an overclock to reach the desired final speeds for both CPU and memory. It doesn’t significantly boost performance, but it can help with idle times.
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Hermitt
01-06-2016, 01:46 PM #3

FSB overclocking was available for owners of the non-black edition Phenom/Phenom II chips, since all FX processors have unlocked multipliers. This means you don’t need to adjust FSB if you just change the processor’s multiplier. However, you can still make adjustments if you’re fine-tuning an overclock to reach the desired final speeds for both CPU and memory. It doesn’t significantly boost performance, but it can help with idle times.

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DrBrokenBones
Senior Member
378
01-06-2016, 10:28 PM
#4
You can change the settings for FSB but it also increases RAM, PCIe, and SATA speeds, which might not be well received.
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DrBrokenBones
01-06-2016, 10:28 PM #4

You can change the settings for FSB but it also increases RAM, PCIe, and SATA speeds, which might not be well received.

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atom_razor
Member
139
01-07-2016, 02:14 AM
#5
Ok thanks, I was running on a x20 multiplier for awhile but wasn't sure if that was ok. If you do the OC tuner in the bios it does the fsb and drops the memory from 1600 to 1066
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atom_razor
01-07-2016, 02:14 AM #5

Ok thanks, I was running on a x20 multiplier for awhile but wasn't sure if that was ok. If you do the OC tuner in the bios it does the fsb and drops the memory from 1600 to 1066

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193over71
Member
169
01-08-2016, 01:21 AM
#6
I was curious about whether boosting my RAM would really improve performance, but I found it best to upgrade with two sticks rather than four.
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193over71
01-08-2016, 01:21 AM #6

I was curious about whether boosting my RAM would really improve performance, but I found it best to upgrade with two sticks rather than four.

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jxzuzuzo
Posting Freak
750
01-08-2016, 09:10 AM
#7
The available space isn't sufficient for overclocking from 1600MHz since latency would reduce the benefits on memory performance, though it works on AMD. Running it at high speed using both memory channels is challenging.
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jxzuzuzo
01-08-2016, 09:10 AM #7

The available space isn't sufficient for overclocking from 1600MHz since latency would reduce the benefits on memory performance, though it works on AMD. Running it at high speed using both memory channels is challenging.

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xXRAXERXx
Posting Freak
817
01-08-2016, 05:14 PM
#8
2 steps forward, 100 steps back lol... ok so I'm thinking of going back to trying out AMD Overdrive again, even tho the support for it seems almost non-existant, for on-demand overclocking/on-demand performance, instead of having my computer overclocked all the time. Not sure how familiar you are with the FX chips or associated chipsets/bios. Actually lemme run this by you before I go into the Overdrive thing...and actually yeah I just read
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/amd-overdrive
has been discontinued. So in my bios I have:
The multiplier was at 20 but I set it back to 17.5 hence the speed difference
the timing section i'm going off an xmp or whatnot profile, which is slightly different than the DOCP profile, so everything in there is manual. I did change on this boot the command rate to 1T, not sure if that will do anything drastic. The driving control section is whatever the system decided, but I manually inputted the values after Auto picked it's thing prior to a reboot. Now I was setting all the voltages in Manual Mode like right there, and
but if in Manual Mode, then
shows, as opposed to Offset Mode which shows
so not sure if it matters what mode I'm in. And I also don't get the difference, if in Offset Mode, the Cool'n'Quiet option Disabled By CPU vs. the option Always Disabled. Then there's the fan control
which I remember changing it to Manual Profile a year or 2 ago for some reason I had read, before that I had it set to Turbo. Or should that even be enabled at all? Lastly there's the memory config which has been a while since I've changed
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xXRAXERXx
01-08-2016, 05:14 PM #8

2 steps forward, 100 steps back lol... ok so I'm thinking of going back to trying out AMD Overdrive again, even tho the support for it seems almost non-existant, for on-demand overclocking/on-demand performance, instead of having my computer overclocked all the time. Not sure how familiar you are with the FX chips or associated chipsets/bios. Actually lemme run this by you before I go into the Overdrive thing...and actually yeah I just read
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/amd-overdrive
has been discontinued. So in my bios I have:
The multiplier was at 20 but I set it back to 17.5 hence the speed difference
the timing section i'm going off an xmp or whatnot profile, which is slightly different than the DOCP profile, so everything in there is manual. I did change on this boot the command rate to 1T, not sure if that will do anything drastic. The driving control section is whatever the system decided, but I manually inputted the values after Auto picked it's thing prior to a reboot. Now I was setting all the voltages in Manual Mode like right there, and
but if in Manual Mode, then
shows, as opposed to Offset Mode which shows
so not sure if it matters what mode I'm in. And I also don't get the difference, if in Offset Mode, the Cool'n'Quiet option Disabled By CPU vs. the option Always Disabled. Then there's the fan control
which I remember changing it to Manual Profile a year or 2 ago for some reason I had read, before that I had it set to Turbo. Or should that even be enabled at all? Lastly there's the memory config which has been a while since I've changed

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Zyondee
Junior Member
9
01-10-2016, 05:31 AM
#9
So instead of maintaining full 4ghz performance constantly, I considered applying a per-app overclock using AMD Overdrive. However, the AMD Smart Profiles didn’t seem to be accessible. I came across a discussion that suggested:
- Check CPU Core affinity settings (1-3, leave core 0 unchecked)
- Adjust Boost State
- Set core voltage to 1.5v (be careful not to overvolt)
- Choose P-State as P0
- Keep Core Multipliers at default since I increased the multiplier via BIOS (+4)
The guide came from https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-c...files.html, but I’m unsure if it specifically mentioned a program-based multi-core optimization or another forum context. The recommended setup for a Smart Profile is as follows.
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Zyondee
01-10-2016, 05:31 AM #9

So instead of maintaining full 4ghz performance constantly, I considered applying a per-app overclock using AMD Overdrive. However, the AMD Smart Profiles didn’t seem to be accessible. I came across a discussion that suggested:
- Check CPU Core affinity settings (1-3, leave core 0 unchecked)
- Adjust Boost State
- Set core voltage to 1.5v (be careful not to overvolt)
- Choose P-State as P0
- Keep Core Multipliers at default since I increased the multiplier via BIOS (+4)
The guide came from https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-c...files.html, but I’m unsure if it specifically mentioned a program-based multi-core optimization or another forum context. The recommended setup for a Smart Profile is as follows.