The question of whether upgrading to a 120mm AIO with the Ryzen 5 1600 OC is worthwhile depends on your needs.
The question of whether upgrading to a 120mm AIO with the Ryzen 5 1600 OC is worthwhile depends on your needs.
Hey guys,
I recently upgraded my setup to the Ryzen 5 1600, running on an Asus Strix B350-F Gaming and Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz (operating at 2933Mhz).
So far, I've managed to reach around 3.85Ghz using a Hyper 212 Evo. My idle temperatures are near 40°C, while max temps spike into the high 60s during gaming. The room temperature stays around 24°C.
I'm considering swapping the 212 Evo for an AIO to possibly lower those numbers. Would a 120mm model be worth it or would it just be another change? I was thinking about the MasterLiquid Lite 120mm.
I'd like to aim for 3.9 or 3.95, but first I need to focus on cooling before trying anything else. Has anyone had experience replacing a 212 Evo with a 120mm model? What were the results and which one did you use?
The Corsair h55/h60 120mm aios perform very similarly to a hyper212. They offer comparable idle behavior and TDP, making it not worthwhile to upgrade to a regular 120mm aio. Models like the h80i v2 provide a better upgrade in heat dissipation for high-end loads, but you can achieve similar results with a cryorig h5 or other mid-range air coolers. For a 65w CPU, you'll likely hit voltage or stability limits before reaching temperature limits.
what are your stress temperatures under full load? Testing with Prime 95 or OCCT isn't the right approach. Gaming temperatures shouldn't dictate further optimization. If you're consistently hitting 80c on Prime 95 small FFTs, you have limited flexibility. As mentioned by InvalidError, should you invest more in increasing headroom, it's not worth it from my perspective.
at idle conditions you should see 30-33, gaming around 45-60, and stress levels between 65-80. The voltage you're using appears a bit high; aim for roughly 1.3-1.35v. For higher voltages or speeds up to 3.9ghz, consider switching to 1.35-1.4v, which is the recommended max by AMD for 24-hour operation.
You might want to try reducing the temperature below 65°C during maximum operation, and also check if there is sufficient airflow available.
I really wouldn't bother. Just settle for 3.85. I'm curious, what exactly are you referring to—maybe just a few frames here and there? As long as you're okay with it, that's fine.
I ran Prime95 and unfortunately the 3.85 version triggered hardware errors within a minute. I adjusted to 3.825 at 1.375 volts, and it operated smoothly for 20 minutes without any problems. It reached a temperature of 65 degrees in just a few minutes and maintained that level throughout the test.
I’m wondering if this is reasonable for stress testing temperatures? My main concern is the high idle temps, which stay between 38 to 41 degrees. I plan to reduce the voltage slightly later, once Prime95 can run for several hours, to see if lower voltage works better.
The case I have is a Phanteks P400, known for its poor intake performance. It’s currently loaded with three 120mm SP fans at the front and one 120mm exhaust. I intend to add some lettering to the front bezel and cover it with mesh to improve airflow, similar to what others have done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D03JveCbo_8
In both cases, it seems the consensus is that investing in an AIO isn’t worthwhile here, aside from the cosmetic improvement.
Not worth it. Prime95 has issues on 3.85, indicating your OC settings aren't stable enough. How do you perform an OC? using manual BIOS or software/OC genie? If the latter, revert to the former and fine-tuning should stabilize it at 3.85. A full 20 minutes isn't sufficient to confirm stability; overnight testing is more reliable.
I appreciate your response. It seems you're also using a comparable configuration and chose to use 3.8 but with lower voltage. This route might be the optimal choice to maintain lower temperatures. I'm not sure what the actual real-world performance difference will be between 3.9 and 3.8, probably not significant. Right now, I've only adjusted the voltage and set my RAM to run at the DOCP frequency of 2933Mhz. I haven't changed any other BIOS settings. I still have much to learn about overclocking, as this is my first PC I've actually tried to overclock.
My main concern was whether I should purchase an AIO. I really like their appearance, and the tempered glass front would make it look better and offer more visibility for the motherboard. However, I didn't want to spend money on an AIO just for aesthetics. It should provide a long-term benefit.
No noticeable performance diff between 3.8 and 3.9. It all depends on you. Some people like to OC as high as possible and he enjoys the success, then he needs that extra cooler. For me, I don't bother and 3.8 is good enough for me. There is no right or wrong in this situation, follow your heart