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lucasjha
Member
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10-09-2022, 07:58 PM
#1
Hello everyone, I'm weighing my thoughts and the online discussions on this topic. It's clear that nothing lasts forever—everything eventually gets discarded. The main debate here is between Cache and Cores, both being key factors for future software and games. There are strong arguments on both sides, with some pointing to upcoming requirements like 8+ cores and the performance of CPUs such as the 5900X versus the 5800X3D. There are also many opinions on latency and efficiency in these discussions, especially on Reddit. What do you all think?
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lucasjha
10-09-2022, 07:58 PM #1

Hello everyone, I'm weighing my thoughts and the online discussions on this topic. It's clear that nothing lasts forever—everything eventually gets discarded. The main debate here is between Cache and Cores, both being key factors for future software and games. There are strong arguments on both sides, with some pointing to upcoming requirements like 8+ cores and the performance of CPUs such as the 5900X versus the 5800X3D. There are also many opinions on latency and efficiency in these discussions, especially on Reddit. What do you all think?

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MissCrysis
Member
224
10-10-2022, 01:20 PM
#2
Focus on stability instead of chasing the best growth potential.
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MissCrysis
10-10-2022, 01:20 PM #2

Focus on stability instead of chasing the best growth potential.

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davinci2003
Junior Member
26
10-12-2022, 04:41 AM
#3
Future proofing is often seen as a weak point in discussions here. By the time it becomes important, other matters will arise. You might have managed to get an 8-core CPU, but what does that even mean for a 3090ti or 4090? You should focus on getting what fits your budget right now with the games you’re playing. Game engines and other features can change—sometimes deliberately making older hardware struggle, sometimes not. A major concern is the price of components. In the long term, the 5800x3D could become the best option if you don’t plan to upgrade in a few years. However, you still need a high-end GPU to get the most performance, and it doesn’t make sense to buy a 5800x3D only to end up with a 3060ti or worse. This CPU will handle 3080/6800xt or better. Unless the games you play don’t require certain high frame rates, a decent card should suffice.
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davinci2003
10-12-2022, 04:41 AM #3

Future proofing is often seen as a weak point in discussions here. By the time it becomes important, other matters will arise. You might have managed to get an 8-core CPU, but what does that even mean for a 3090ti or 4090? You should focus on getting what fits your budget right now with the games you’re playing. Game engines and other features can change—sometimes deliberately making older hardware struggle, sometimes not. A major concern is the price of components. In the long term, the 5800x3D could become the best option if you don’t plan to upgrade in a few years. However, you still need a high-end GPU to get the most performance, and it doesn’t make sense to buy a 5800x3D only to end up with a 3060ti or worse. This CPU will handle 3080/6800xt or better. Unless the games you play don’t require certain high frame rates, a decent card should suffice.

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cbrDK
Junior Member
10
10-12-2022, 06:42 AM
#4
Disagree, because "future proofing" is too generic of a term to obsess over or dismiss entirely. People definitely over obsess on the topic more than they should, with "buying what you can afford" being decent advice in general. But there's definitely many instances where you can make a bad purchase without considering the future. In fact, with the new AMD CPU's we're in a moment that's a perfect example. There's nothing wrong with buying a great 5000 series CPU right now. But considering whether it's worth while to buy into the new boards/sockets is something worthwhile.
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cbrDK
10-12-2022, 06:42 AM #4

Disagree, because "future proofing" is too generic of a term to obsess over or dismiss entirely. People definitely over obsess on the topic more than they should, with "buying what you can afford" being decent advice in general. But there's definitely many instances where you can make a bad purchase without considering the future. In fact, with the new AMD CPU's we're in a moment that's a perfect example. There's nothing wrong with buying a great 5000 series CPU right now. But considering whether it's worth while to buy into the new boards/sockets is something worthwhile.

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Baki13
Member
142
10-12-2022, 02:59 PM
#5
Most users won’t change their setup, so it doesn’t affect them much. I don’t really suggest the 7000 series on AMD given the motherboard costs. While some boards fit the basics, others still have too many ports and aren’t optimized enough for serious use. The price difference between the x570 Aorus Master (300$) and the x670/650 (550–650$) showed most folks it wasn’t worth the investment for everyday gaming. For those who don’t mind, future-proofing seems pointless—they’ll just keep chasing the newest specs. It’s not a strong case for serious consideration. You can build a solid AM4 rig for the price of a motherboard for the x670/B650. For most players, the performance gains are minimal (except with AM5 on Windows 11), and unless you’re on a tight budget, it can be unpredictable.
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Baki13
10-12-2022, 02:59 PM #5

Most users won’t change their setup, so it doesn’t affect them much. I don’t really suggest the 7000 series on AMD given the motherboard costs. While some boards fit the basics, others still have too many ports and aren’t optimized enough for serious use. The price difference between the x570 Aorus Master (300$) and the x670/650 (550–650$) showed most folks it wasn’t worth the investment for everyday gaming. For those who don’t mind, future-proofing seems pointless—they’ll just keep chasing the newest specs. It’s not a strong case for serious consideration. You can build a solid AM4 rig for the price of a motherboard for the x670/B650. For most players, the performance gains are minimal (except with AM5 on Windows 11), and unless you’re on a tight budget, it can be unpredictable.

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JamesHond7
Posting Freak
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10-12-2022, 03:26 PM
#6
I understand you meant to emphasize that the term future proof is just a common phrase without real significance. My focus is on what endures longest—maximizing the lifespan of what I already have. As for clarity, I’m currently using an x470 and haven’t upgraded to the newest systems yet. My aim is to stretch out my existing setup, especially my 3700x, which still has a few solid years left before performance drops. I’d like to push its capabilities further, possibly extending its life by a few more years so I can sell it for a decent price soon.
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JamesHond7
10-12-2022, 03:26 PM #6

I understand you meant to emphasize that the term future proof is just a common phrase without real significance. My focus is on what endures longest—maximizing the lifespan of what I already have. As for clarity, I’m currently using an x470 and haven’t upgraded to the newest systems yet. My aim is to stretch out my existing setup, especially my 3700x, which still has a few solid years left before performance drops. I’d like to push its capabilities further, possibly extending its life by a few more years so I can sell it for a decent price soon.

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AskedRumble52
Member
216
10-13-2022, 11:58 AM
#7
spending more money dose not mean your system will last longer before an upgrade. what makes sense is whats the best value for what im doing. but also need to no what you want to do with the pc and what you think you want to do with it... say you want to go 10 years with a system that means your still be using a gtx 690... and Core i7-3930K ish and that was hiend at the time. the poit is things are getting faster and more energy effect even thow the price is going up too. when you need an upgrade buy it then. that will be the best bang for the buck. or buy something used and play the old upgrade value but you have to wate and with online stuff it hard to say if a server will even be up by the time you play it... but single player games will just get cheaper and parts to play them cheaper as well... games like nms get updated all the time (wish it didn't) so if you didn't play it at an early date your sol. but games like mindcraft you can install an update w/e you feel like it only problem i find is finding video about a patch on youtube... Edited December 14, 2022 by thrasher_565
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AskedRumble52
10-13-2022, 11:58 AM #7

spending more money dose not mean your system will last longer before an upgrade. what makes sense is whats the best value for what im doing. but also need to no what you want to do with the pc and what you think you want to do with it... say you want to go 10 years with a system that means your still be using a gtx 690... and Core i7-3930K ish and that was hiend at the time. the poit is things are getting faster and more energy effect even thow the price is going up too. when you need an upgrade buy it then. that will be the best bang for the buck. or buy something used and play the old upgrade value but you have to wate and with online stuff it hard to say if a server will even be up by the time you play it... but single player games will just get cheaper and parts to play them cheaper as well... games like nms get updated all the time (wish it didn't) so if you didn't play it at an early date your sol. but games like mindcraft you can install an update w/e you feel like it only problem i find is finding video about a patch on youtube... Edited December 14, 2022 by thrasher_565

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TehStratosHD
Senior Member
492
10-17-2022, 09:49 AM
#8
Just another 5 years would be fine, being able to dable with the latest games until then, wanna see the AM4 to the end before deciding team red or blue or if another interesting option comes out by then, plus Intel and AMD are in first and second gen to their current platform,I'm not an early adopter and, I'm a upgrade to the flagship of last year kinda guy, for computers I try to run what I have until the CPU/gpu start dipping below $200 on the second hand market, the markets have been crazy across the board last few years so I missed the mark but looking at options there was just some interesting debates on the current and last year gen, last year gen beating out current in certain applications, current gen chewing through multiple instances running simultaneously with room to spare, the most interesting thing was cache vs cores, seems to be a developing battle, once all die areas start 3D stacking things will really get spicy ,whole different approach to cooling will be needed so we'll be in for hours of watching that mess lol. Really just wanted thoughts about cache and core's,it's hard to guess which way software development will go
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TehStratosHD
10-17-2022, 09:49 AM #8

Just another 5 years would be fine, being able to dable with the latest games until then, wanna see the AM4 to the end before deciding team red or blue or if another interesting option comes out by then, plus Intel and AMD are in first and second gen to their current platform,I'm not an early adopter and, I'm a upgrade to the flagship of last year kinda guy, for computers I try to run what I have until the CPU/gpu start dipping below $200 on the second hand market, the markets have been crazy across the board last few years so I missed the mark but looking at options there was just some interesting debates on the current and last year gen, last year gen beating out current in certain applications, current gen chewing through multiple instances running simultaneously with room to spare, the most interesting thing was cache vs cores, seems to be a developing battle, once all die areas start 3D stacking things will really get spicy ,whole different approach to cooling will be needed so we'll be in for hours of watching that mess lol. Really just wanted thoughts about cache and core's,it's hard to guess which way software development will go

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NoNe_1
Member
188
10-17-2022, 06:47 PM
#9
It's tough to compare things since everyone has different tastes. When it comes to phone games, those that focus too much on sales don't seem very appealing to me. I'm not interested in buying into that kind of content. Maybe it's just my opinion—right now I still play Diablo 2, Craft, and Starfall. Games like NMS feel unstable no matter what I do. Diablo 4 seems to be fading away in my view, but there are still many good games left to explore.
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NoNe_1
10-17-2022, 06:47 PM #9

It's tough to compare things since everyone has different tastes. When it comes to phone games, those that focus too much on sales don't seem very appealing to me. I'm not interested in buying into that kind of content. Maybe it's just my opinion—right now I still play Diablo 2, Craft, and Starfall. Games like NMS feel unstable no matter what I do. Diablo 4 seems to be fading away in my view, but there are still many good games left to explore.

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JonZthan
Member
60
10-21-2022, 08:41 PM
#10
I mainly enjoy games from the past few years, especially those with a nostalgic feel. Probably the newest title is Doom, but for the first time in ten years I'm genuinely looking forward to an upcoming release. Only a single trailer has been shared, and it's been buzzing among fans nonstop for days. No official system requirements have been announced yet, aside from the 64-bit processor requirement... So, what sparked my excitement this time is likely the promise of a fresh experience.
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JonZthan
10-21-2022, 08:41 PM #10

I mainly enjoy games from the past few years, especially those with a nostalgic feel. Probably the newest title is Doom, but for the first time in ten years I'm genuinely looking forward to an upcoming release. Only a single trailer has been shared, and it's been buzzing among fans nonstop for days. No official system requirements have been announced yet, aside from the 64-bit processor requirement... So, what sparked my excitement this time is likely the promise of a fresh experience.

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