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The 9900KS might pose challenges for buyers, so it's wise to consider carefully.

The 9900KS might pose challenges for buyers, so it's wise to consider carefully.

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amandabuddy
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06-03-2018, 06:55 AM
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So, what do you think about Intel's decision to release Binned versions of the 9900K? I think it might help with better binned chips. On the other hand, I feel it completely hurts anyone looking for a standard 9900K. Clearly, if the chip works well at all, Intel will likely replace it with a different model and charge extra! (9900KS). This would eliminate the chance for enthusiasts to get a great chip from Intel, since they’re essentially being taken over by relabeling. It’s both positive and negative. If the price stays the same as the current 9900K, it could be okay. But if it’s a big price increase, it’s a real setback for anyone buying a 9900K. Anyone interested in that chip gets left out of the silicon lottery again. That’s my two cents. Thanks, guys!
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amandabuddy
06-03-2018, 06:55 AM #1

So, what do you think about Intel's decision to release Binned versions of the 9900K? I think it might help with better binned chips. On the other hand, I feel it completely hurts anyone looking for a standard 9900K. Clearly, if the chip works well at all, Intel will likely replace it with a different model and charge extra! (9900KS). This would eliminate the chance for enthusiasts to get a great chip from Intel, since they’re essentially being taken over by relabeling. It’s both positive and negative. If the price stays the same as the current 9900K, it could be okay. But if it’s a big price increase, it’s a real setback for anyone buying a 9900K. Anyone interested in that chip gets left out of the silicon lottery again. That’s my two cents. Thanks, guys!

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Andy31576
Member
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06-19-2018, 02:44 PM
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It's merely a rebranding effort. No significant changes—just increased voltage and power, positioning it as a strong successor to the FX9590.
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Andy31576
06-19-2018, 02:44 PM #2

It's merely a rebranding effort. No significant changes—just increased voltage and power, positioning it as a strong successor to the FX9590.

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N3RDYTARDIS
Junior Member
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06-19-2018, 07:51 PM
#3
AMD has already made some issues with the 9900K, while the 3700X is offering much better value for money compared to its performance.
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N3RDYTARDIS
06-19-2018, 07:51 PM #3

AMD has already made some issues with the 9900K, while the 3700X is offering much better value for money compared to its performance.

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Crazydog300
Senior Member
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06-23-2018, 10:25 AM
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From what I have gathered directly from intel, they are binning the 9900K to re brand these. Leaving 0 chance for a 9900K purchaser to hit the silicone lottery. This, i do agree with. Price to performance.
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Crazydog300
06-23-2018, 10:25 AM #4

From what I have gathered directly from intel, they are binning the 9900K to re brand these. Leaving 0 chance for a 9900K purchaser to hit the silicone lottery. This, i do agree with. Price to performance.

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XLegacy012
Junior Member
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06-23-2018, 10:32 AM
#5
Certainly, Intel would likely confirm that. Would they admit to exploiting users? Most people using 9900Ks are seeing 5Gjz, with many sticking to 5.1. This suggests Intel is allocating the CPU a substantial power budget and enabling MCE, essentially performing the FX9590 functionality.
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XLegacy012
06-23-2018, 10:32 AM #5

Certainly, Intel would likely confirm that. Would they admit to exploiting users? Most people using 9900Ks are seeing 5Gjz, with many sticking to 5.1. This suggests Intel is allocating the CPU a substantial power budget and enabling MCE, essentially performing the FX9590 functionality.

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Tayeb78
Junior Member
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06-24-2018, 01:30 AM
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Acknowledge the uncertainty, considering multiple references like 9900K or 9900KS if required
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Tayeb78
06-24-2018, 01:30 AM #6

Acknowledge the uncertainty, considering multiple references like 9900K or 9900KS if required

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Heywoodman
Member
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07-01-2018, 02:50 AM
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I'm confident the design will increase the core frequency and add more cores up to 5Ghz. Still, they'll likely group these chips together, reducing the odds for silicone lottery. This mirrors AMD's approach with the 3800X, where they merged the 3700X to achieve the 3800X result. It narrows the chances even further. I've seen a 9900K reach 5.3 on open loop, but that was my first chip. Last week I bought a 9900K for testing; it barely hits 5.1 without proper cooling. Have anyone recently bought a 9900K? What about your thermal performance? Also, the idea of silicone lottery vanishing completely is disappointing. In short, they're charging extra for the chance of silicone lottery and dismissing the K-specs. — Edited September 9, 2019 by Jae30001
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Heywoodman
07-01-2018, 02:50 AM #7

I'm confident the design will increase the core frequency and add more cores up to 5Ghz. Still, they'll likely group these chips together, reducing the odds for silicone lottery. This mirrors AMD's approach with the 3800X, where they merged the 3700X to achieve the 3800X result. It narrows the chances even further. I've seen a 9900K reach 5.3 on open loop, but that was my first chip. Last week I bought a 9900K for testing; it barely hits 5.1 without proper cooling. Have anyone recently bought a 9900K? What about your thermal performance? Also, the idea of silicone lottery vanishing completely is disappointing. In short, they're charging extra for the chance of silicone lottery and dismissing the K-specs. — Edited September 9, 2019 by Jae30001

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LandriMarie
Junior Member
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07-03-2018, 03:38 PM
#8
They're planning to increase voltage significantly, so it's essentially a rebranding effort. Very little categorization will happen. Only the lowest 1% of 9900K CPUs won't be changed. As for 9900, keep investing.
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LandriMarie
07-03-2018, 03:38 PM #8

They're planning to increase voltage significantly, so it's essentially a rebranding effort. Very little categorization will happen. Only the lowest 1% of 9900K CPUs won't be changed. As for 9900, keep investing.

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thehaperguy
Junior Member
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07-04-2018, 05:49 AM
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It depends on the price; the KF will hit 400 USD soon. Paired with a Z390 Elite, it's a decent offer. The Ks will likely be about 500 USD, though some think the extra binning isn't worth 100 USD. The regular 9900K still leaves a bit of uncertainty.
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thehaperguy
07-04-2018, 05:49 AM #9

It depends on the price; the KF will hit 400 USD soon. Paired with a Z390 Elite, it's a decent offer. The Ks will likely be about 500 USD, though some think the extra binning isn't worth 100 USD. The regular 9900K still leaves a bit of uncertainty.

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hugog07
Member
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07-04-2018, 01:34 PM
#10
Throughout production, a significant amount of the silicone wafer is lost. My main concern is that there’s no possibility of securing a 9900K silicone lottery anymore due to the 9900KS. Essentially, you pay for the best results, but I’ve only heard of one 9900K not reaching 5GHz—it was reportedly Romans Early Access 9900k. It seems they likely focus on chips that deliver stable 5.4GHz or higher performance.
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hugog07
07-04-2018, 01:34 PM #10

Throughout production, a significant amount of the silicone wafer is lost. My main concern is that there’s no possibility of securing a 9900K silicone lottery anymore due to the 9900KS. Essentially, you pay for the best results, but I’ve only heard of one 9900K not reaching 5GHz—it was reportedly Romans Early Access 9900k. It seems they likely focus on chips that deliver stable 5.4GHz or higher performance.

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