The 4th generation Ryzen models can be difficult to understand.
The 4th generation Ryzen models can be difficult to understand.
You're looking to upgrade your PC to Ryzen processors. It can be tough to grasp some details, so someone can clarify things for you like a beginner.
The 4th generation Ryzen is newer than the 3rd and isn't limited to laptops—many people mention 4th gen laptops but aren’t sure what desktop options look like. Whether it’s worth waiting depends on your needs.
PCIe Gen4 speeds are similar to Gen3, but they allow more data transfer. For example, a 4x NVMe 3Gen could use twice the lanes of a 2x Gen3 setup. If your Ryzen has 16 PCIe Gen4 lanes, it suggests it supports 32 Gen3 lanes.
If you don’t need Gen4 slots but want more Gen3 lanes, choose a chipset that matches your lane requirements. For stability without overclocking, a standard ATX motherboard works well.
The R5 3600 Stock should not bottleneck a GTX 1080 GamingX, especially with 16 PCIe lanes.
RAM-wise, a 2x8GB at 3000MHz CL16 should be sufficient for most tasks.
Expect fourth-generation laptops and another version for desktops on the horizon. It hinges on whether you anticipate sufficient performance improvement. The x16 lanes will function in Gen3 or Gen4 mode, but you won’t receive double the Gen3 lanes from a Gen4 slot. Most 300, 400, and 500 series boards for Ryzen chips are likely limited to 20 PCIe lanes plus available chipset lanes, leaving you with a few x16 physical slots and a handful of x1 slots. If you require many PCIe slots or lanes, Threadripper is the recommended choice for AMD systems. It won’t cause bottlenecks in most scenarios. I’d strongly think about seeking 3600MHz RAM, as many comparable options are priced at 3200 or less.
The 4th generation laptop CPUs match the 3rd generation desktop CPUs. These laptops are positioned ahead of them.
Why? Is there much of difference between lower frequency RAM? My friend is considering upgrade from older Intel. And we're deciding between 2nd gen Ryzen (2700) or wait for 4600 and see how it performs. Thinking about using it with GTX1080.
4th generation in laptops matches 3rd gen on desktops. To wait for Zen3 (4th gen on desktop), expect it near year-end. A PCIe 3.0 card with 16 lanes will still use all 16 lanes when connected to a PCIe 4.0 slot due to compatibility rules—full lane utilization, not halved. For bandwidth sharing, the device must support 4.0 if you limit to half the lanes. The lane count stays at 16, only the per-lane bandwidth changes. B450 works well for R5 3600, though it may need tuning later if needed.
It's commonly considered the ideal range for Ryzen 3000 series processors. Using RAM rated at 3600Mhz will give you that performance, though you might be able to overclock the 3000Mhz RAM. The improvement won't be huge, but it offers a noticeable boost in speed.