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That's a silly question, but

That's a silly question, but

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Fabriciomaxd
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12-25-2019, 12:14 AM
#1
Some CPUs run with a lower base clock and a much higher boost clock. This setup can affect performance compared to CPUs with a higher base clock and the same boost clock. For example, the Ryzen 5 3600 and i5 10500F have similar boost clocks across all cores but the i5 starts at a much lower base clock. This difference might influence how they perform relative to other CPUs. Regarding U-series laptops with low base clocks but high boosts, they could offer strong performance despite the lower starting frequency.
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Fabriciomaxd
12-25-2019, 12:14 AM #1

Some CPUs run with a lower base clock and a much higher boost clock. This setup can affect performance compared to CPUs with a higher base clock and the same boost clock. For example, the Ryzen 5 3600 and i5 10500F have similar boost clocks across all cores but the i5 starts at a much lower base clock. This difference might influence how they perform relative to other CPUs. Regarding U-series laptops with low base clocks but high boosts, they could offer strong performance despite the lower starting frequency.

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Gfiti
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12-27-2019, 09:21 PM
#2
It's acceptable to consider the impact based on the difference. For productivity, a solid base plus a decent boost clock works well. If you're mainly gaming and browsing with similar performance levels—like 3.5GHz vs 3.7GHz or 3.0 vs 3.3–3.5GHz—the same boost clock should suffice. You'll likely handle everything smoothly as long as your RAM is sufficient. This is my general perspective.
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Gfiti
12-27-2019, 09:21 PM #2

It's acceptable to consider the impact based on the difference. For productivity, a solid base plus a decent boost clock works well. If you're mainly gaming and browsing with similar performance levels—like 3.5GHz vs 3.7GHz or 3.0 vs 3.3–3.5GHz—the same boost clock should suffice. You'll likely handle everything smoothly as long as your RAM is sufficient. This is my general perspective.

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Folwolf
Junior Member
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01-09-2020, 06:02 PM
#3
Comparing clock speeds across brands or generations isn't straightforward because CPUs handle different tasks per clock cycle. The actual performance varies based on the individual CPU model, the motherboard, and power constraints. It's best to check reviews for the exact model. On desktops without power limits, devices typically run at full boost under stress, while laptops often face thermal or power restrictions.
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Folwolf
01-09-2020, 06:02 PM #3

Comparing clock speeds across brands or generations isn't straightforward because CPUs handle different tasks per clock cycle. The actual performance varies based on the individual CPU model, the motherboard, and power constraints. It's best to check reviews for the exact model. On desktops without power limits, devices typically run at full boost under stress, while laptops often face thermal or power restrictions.

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BigEYe651
Junior Member
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01-10-2020, 10:10 PM
#4
Base clock refers to the CPU's standard timing speed that stays consistent at normal operating temperatures. Unless the processor overheats, most CPUs don’t run at these lower speeds because they aim for much faster performance. Intel recently announced that base clocks are intentionally kept minimal, but in practice you rarely see any CPU using them unless cooling issues arise.
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BigEYe651
01-10-2020, 10:10 PM #4

Base clock refers to the CPU's standard timing speed that stays consistent at normal operating temperatures. Unless the processor overheats, most CPUs don’t run at these lower speeds because they aim for much faster performance. Intel recently announced that base clocks are intentionally kept minimal, but in practice you rarely see any CPU using them unless cooling issues arise.

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Stark134
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01-21-2020, 07:54 PM
#5
i mean, stock cooler?
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Stark134
01-21-2020, 07:54 PM #5

i mean, stock cooler?

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meandmoreme
Member
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02-02-2020, 11:07 PM
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No luck at all. The cooling units didn't help; the processor kept exceeding normal speeds.
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meandmoreme
02-02-2020, 11:07 PM #6

No luck at all. The cooling units didn't help; the processor kept exceeding normal speeds.

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Llabros
Senior Member
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02-03-2020, 09:11 AM
#7
Discussing laptop situations, these devices often face overheating issues, while their turbo boost rates tend to stay below what the CPU could achieve.
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Llabros
02-03-2020, 09:11 AM #7

Discussing laptop situations, these devices often face overheating issues, while their turbo boost rates tend to stay below what the CPU could achieve.

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jinxyourown
Junior Member
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02-08-2020, 10:35 PM
#8
I experienced some i7 4790k CPUs without the standard cooling solution, maintaining temperatures below 4GHz during intense usage:p. That was actually normal.
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jinxyourown
02-08-2020, 10:35 PM #8

I experienced some i7 4790k CPUs without the standard cooling solution, maintaining temperatures below 4GHz during intense usage:p. That was actually normal.

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Mod_masta
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02-08-2020, 11:57 PM
#9
The fundamental clock speed is determined by the capability of every core to operate consistently within the available power limits and the specified thermal design power (TDP). The temporary boost frequency refers to how many cores can reach higher speeds at certain moments, depending on cooling efficiency and board capacity. For instance, a processor with 65W TDP, such as the Ryzen 3600, is designed to maintain its base speed across all cores while adhering to power constraints and thermal limits. The boost frequency can vary—ranging from seconds to hours—as long as the system’s cooling solution and power delivery meet requirements. A cooler rated for 65W can support this base speed on every core, though it might only sustain a few cores at boost if temperatures rise too quickly. Upgrading to a cooler rated for higher TDP (like 95W or 125W) could enable all cores to run at boost speeds for longer durations.

Some CPUs use a single integrated die containing all cores and graphics, while others split them across multiple dies—some with only three of eight cores active per die. This design impacts heat output; a smaller die generates less heat than a larger one with more active cores. Marketing also plays a role, creating distinctions between product lines—for example, certain Intel models exclude integrated graphics to target budget segments or address manufacturing issues.

Intel processors undergo rigorous testing, measuring power usage and frequency performance at various voltages. If parts of the chip are inefficient or overly power-hungry, they may be labeled as unlocked (K) for overclocking. Laptop CPUs face tighter limits due to compact cooling solutions, often capped at lower TDPs like 15–25W. The relationship between voltage, frequency, and efficiency follows a non-linear path; moving beyond an optimal point can increase power consumption without proportional gains in speed. For ultra-low power applications (under 15W), the focus is on minimizing both energy use and heat generation.
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Mod_masta
02-08-2020, 11:57 PM #9

The fundamental clock speed is determined by the capability of every core to operate consistently within the available power limits and the specified thermal design power (TDP). The temporary boost frequency refers to how many cores can reach higher speeds at certain moments, depending on cooling efficiency and board capacity. For instance, a processor with 65W TDP, such as the Ryzen 3600, is designed to maintain its base speed across all cores while adhering to power constraints and thermal limits. The boost frequency can vary—ranging from seconds to hours—as long as the system’s cooling solution and power delivery meet requirements. A cooler rated for 65W can support this base speed on every core, though it might only sustain a few cores at boost if temperatures rise too quickly. Upgrading to a cooler rated for higher TDP (like 95W or 125W) could enable all cores to run at boost speeds for longer durations.

Some CPUs use a single integrated die containing all cores and graphics, while others split them across multiple dies—some with only three of eight cores active per die. This design impacts heat output; a smaller die generates less heat than a larger one with more active cores. Marketing also plays a role, creating distinctions between product lines—for example, certain Intel models exclude integrated graphics to target budget segments or address manufacturing issues.

Intel processors undergo rigorous testing, measuring power usage and frequency performance at various voltages. If parts of the chip are inefficient or overly power-hungry, they may be labeled as unlocked (K) for overclocking. Laptop CPUs face tighter limits due to compact cooling solutions, often capped at lower TDPs like 15–25W. The relationship between voltage, frequency, and efficiency follows a non-linear path; moving beyond an optimal point can increase power consumption without proportional gains in speed. For ultra-low power applications (under 15W), the focus is on minimizing both energy use and heat generation.

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iskela99
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02-11-2020, 12:31 AM
#10
Clock speeds should always be considered alongside other factors. They aren't directly comparable across different systems. For instance, a 3600 might match some Intel processors that reach over 5GHz while capping around 4.2GHz. This is because Ryzen offers better performance per instruction and more advanced prefetching and cache management compared to those Intel chips. Even within the same platform, newer models usually surpass older ones at identical speeds due to improved efficiency. Consider the 11th generation Intel processors—they outperform the 10th generation despite sharing the same architecture and manufacturing process, thanks to higher IPC. Other elements also play a role; insufficient RAM can become a limiting factor. A 3600 can easily surpass a 10400F when paired with faster memory, but with 3200MHz RAM, the latter becomes competitive and even surpasses it in certain cases. Lastly, advertised speeds often don't fully reflect real-world performance. Take the 5900X and 5950X as examples. While the 5950X boasts higher base and boost frequencies, practical optimization can make the 5900X outperform the 5950X in some situations. This is partly due to differences in core density, which affects power usage and heat management. In summary, clockspeeds are only a small piece of the puzzle. When comparing CPUs on the same platform—same architecture, core count, cache—they may still matter, but often it's more about overall system resources like power and thermal capacity.
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iskela99
02-11-2020, 12:31 AM #10

Clock speeds should always be considered alongside other factors. They aren't directly comparable across different systems. For instance, a 3600 might match some Intel processors that reach over 5GHz while capping around 4.2GHz. This is because Ryzen offers better performance per instruction and more advanced prefetching and cache management compared to those Intel chips. Even within the same platform, newer models usually surpass older ones at identical speeds due to improved efficiency. Consider the 11th generation Intel processors—they outperform the 10th generation despite sharing the same architecture and manufacturing process, thanks to higher IPC. Other elements also play a role; insufficient RAM can become a limiting factor. A 3600 can easily surpass a 10400F when paired with faster memory, but with 3200MHz RAM, the latter becomes competitive and even surpasses it in certain cases. Lastly, advertised speeds often don't fully reflect real-world performance. Take the 5900X and 5950X as examples. While the 5950X boasts higher base and boost frequencies, practical optimization can make the 5900X outperform the 5950X in some situations. This is partly due to differences in core density, which affects power usage and heat management. In summary, clockspeeds are only a small piece of the puzzle. When comparing CPUs on the same platform—same architecture, core count, cache—they may still matter, but often it's more about overall system resources like power and thermal capacity.