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System instability occurs sporadically yet regularly.

System instability occurs sporadically yet regularly.

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eytong
Junior Member
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11-12-2017, 03:41 AM
#1
Hello everyone, I'm feeling really frustrated about this issue. My Ryzen 7 1700 has been acting up lately—hard crashes without any error messages, just a sudden freeze followed by a reboot. After rebooting, my monitors stop working and I have to turn off the power again. It seems to happen mostly when gaming isn't on, but sometimes even opening Steam alone triggers it. I'm not sure what's causing this, and I'm trying to figure out possible solutions. You can check the logs if you'd like, though I'm not sure where to find them. Thanks for your help!
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eytong
11-12-2017, 03:41 AM #1

Hello everyone, I'm feeling really frustrated about this issue. My Ryzen 7 1700 has been acting up lately—hard crashes without any error messages, just a sudden freeze followed by a reboot. After rebooting, my monitors stop working and I have to turn off the power again. It seems to happen mostly when gaming isn't on, but sometimes even opening Steam alone triggers it. I'm not sure what's causing this, and I'm trying to figure out possible solutions. You can check the logs if you'd like, though I'm not sure where to find them. Thanks for your help!

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ylyes4
Senior Member
572
11-12-2017, 10:55 AM
#2
Old Ryzen, what came before you? Do you have the latest BIOS updates? Maintaining up-to-date BIOS has become essential for Ryzen systems recently. If your BIOS is fresh, check if any of the storage devices you’re using are nearly full—ideally under 80% capacity—or run a few memory tests with memtest86 to ensure your RAM is functioning properly. It’s free but can be slow and automatic. One of those tools you launch once and then switch tasks to. I’m also unfamiliar with the PSU brand you mentioned; I don’t know much about its reliability. You should have ample power, assuming it delivers what it advertises. Edited December 22, 2022 by Bombastinator
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ylyes4
11-12-2017, 10:55 AM #2

Old Ryzen, what came before you? Do you have the latest BIOS updates? Maintaining up-to-date BIOS has become essential for Ryzen systems recently. If your BIOS is fresh, check if any of the storage devices you’re using are nearly full—ideally under 80% capacity—or run a few memory tests with memtest86 to ensure your RAM is functioning properly. It’s free but can be slow and automatic. One of those tools you launch once and then switch tasks to. I’m also unfamiliar with the PSU brand you mentioned; I don’t know much about its reliability. You should have ample power, assuming it delivers what it advertises. Edited December 22, 2022 by Bombastinator

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ClayFish
Member
52
11-13-2017, 11:48 PM
#3
I owned an FX6300 with a completely different board before. It seems the (used) board I’m trying to update might not work with the latest files ASRock recommends for Summit Ridge. I’m a bit unsure and thought about skipping the update, but I’ll try it again once finished. They’ve mentioned this PSU maker is notorious, though I’m not sure which manufacturers are reliable. Also, my budget isn’t large for such projects.
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ClayFish
11-13-2017, 11:48 PM #3

I owned an FX6300 with a completely different board before. It seems the (used) board I’m trying to update might not work with the latest files ASRock recommends for Summit Ridge. I’m a bit unsure and thought about skipping the update, but I’ll try it again once finished. They’ve mentioned this PSU maker is notorious, though I’m not sure which manufacturers are reliable. Also, my budget isn’t large for such projects.

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StoopySloopy
Junior Member
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11-14-2017, 04:28 PM
#4
There exist PSU tierlists that provide guidance. The most recent version I checked was outdated, though this might have changed. These lists are generally focused on North America and Europe, while PSUs from Southeast Asia represent a different category (which is surprising given their regional origin). Not all organizations export to Europe or the Americas, so longevity isn’t guaranteed. Poor performance usually signals shorter lifespan and higher risk of failure when issues arise. A common guideline is to avoid using a PSU beyond its warranty or after five years—whichever applies. Some manufacturers don’t even meet these standards. There was a company called diablotek known for its reputation in this area. The IS has an 80+ rating system; 80+ white (meaning no metal name) is often seen as low quality, though premium metals can be exceptions. This could evolve. Personally, I find PSU information quite unclear and hard to interpret.
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StoopySloopy
11-14-2017, 04:28 PM #4

There exist PSU tierlists that provide guidance. The most recent version I checked was outdated, though this might have changed. These lists are generally focused on North America and Europe, while PSUs from Southeast Asia represent a different category (which is surprising given their regional origin). Not all organizations export to Europe or the Americas, so longevity isn’t guaranteed. Poor performance usually signals shorter lifespan and higher risk of failure when issues arise. A common guideline is to avoid using a PSU beyond its warranty or after five years—whichever applies. Some manufacturers don’t even meet these standards. There was a company called diablotek known for its reputation in this area. The IS has an 80+ rating system; 80+ white (meaning no metal name) is often seen as low quality, though premium metals can be exceptions. This could evolve. Personally, I find PSU information quite unclear and hard to interpret.

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ChibiWolf39
Senior Member
491
11-15-2017, 05:46 AM
#5
I've tested Memtest64 recently and found no problems. It looks like it will work fine even overnight. The PSU tier lists seem better than I thought, though still not ideal.
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ChibiWolf39
11-15-2017, 05:46 AM #5

I've tested Memtest64 recently and found no problems. It looks like it will work fine even overnight. The PSU tier lists seem better than I thought, though still not ideal.

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Mario10Gamer
Member
188
11-15-2017, 10:16 PM
#6
The point is this: it doesn’t depend on the brand; it’s about the exact model. Every one can handle branding, good or average.
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Mario10Gamer
11-15-2017, 10:16 PM #6

The point is this: it doesn’t depend on the brand; it’s about the exact model. Every one can handle branding, good or average.

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Samu02
Member
184
11-19-2017, 09:55 PM
#7
The maximum RAM supported by the AMD Ryzen 1700 is 2666 MHz. Going beyond 3200 MHz isn't beneficial; a 20% increase in RAM speed only offers about a 2% boost in overall system performance. Thirdly, 550W is insufficient for your configuration. At peak usage, you're expecting 2x to 3x power draw, which you haven't addressed.
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Samu02
11-19-2017, 09:55 PM #7

The maximum RAM supported by the AMD Ryzen 1700 is 2666 MHz. Going beyond 3200 MHz isn't beneficial; a 20% increase in RAM speed only offers about a 2% boost in overall system performance. Thirdly, 550W is insufficient for your configuration. At peak usage, you're expecting 2x to 3x power draw, which you haven't addressed.

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eel8
Member
177
11-22-2017, 07:35 PM
#8
Adjusting the BIOS speed to 2666MHz can be beneficial, especially if you're experiencing issues. The peak frequency could also play a role. However, if it's the PSU, the system might simply shut down briefly before stopping, rather than freezing for a few seconds.
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eel8
11-22-2017, 07:35 PM #8

Adjusting the BIOS speed to 2666MHz can be beneficial, especially if you're experiencing issues. The peak frequency could also play a role. However, if it's the PSU, the system might simply shut down briefly before stopping, rather than freezing for a few seconds.

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appies
Member
160
11-24-2017, 01:49 AM
#9
It receives the full power it needs, ... eventually... observe how it functions? Well, try it at 3000MHz and check stability with Memtest. Adjust CL/CAS to Auto so the system can balance medium. Increasing by 200MHz will improve performance by less than 0.66%.
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appies
11-24-2017, 01:49 AM #9

It receives the full power it needs, ... eventually... observe how it functions? Well, try it at 3000MHz and check stability with Memtest. Adjust CL/CAS to Auto so the system can balance medium. Increasing by 200MHz will improve performance by less than 0.66%.

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jerrydog01
Senior Member
703
11-25-2017, 04:25 PM
#10
Typically individuals slow down their system's clock when RAM runs too quickly, then adjust the timing to optimize performance. There’s a cap involved, yet you can find very high-speed 2666mhz RAM.
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jerrydog01
11-25-2017, 04:25 PM #10

Typically individuals slow down their system's clock when RAM runs too quickly, then adjust the timing to optimize performance. There’s a cap involved, yet you can find very high-speed 2666mhz RAM.

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