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Joris_boef
Member
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08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#11
Using alternative distribution methods suitable for Arch Linux environment
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Joris_boef
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #11

Using alternative distribution methods suitable for Arch Linux environment

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winndich
Member
156
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#12
Fedora is really appealing to you, and copr repositories are great. OpenSUSE is a solid option for beginners, while Yast offers extensive customization. Mageia is also a good alternative.
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winndich
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #12

Fedora is really appealing to you, and copr repositories are great. OpenSUSE is a solid option for beginners, while Yast offers extensive customization. Mageia is also a good alternative.

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SA_minecraft
Member
203
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#13
Interestingly, in Arch32 the eclipse package is actually the 64-bit version...(also manjaro32). I might just stick with FreeBSD—it’s functioning fine enough for my needs. PKG repos offer a wide range of software. Still, the main problem is that everything seems to be built around Ubuntu, which isn’t ideal.
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SA_minecraft
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #13

Interestingly, in Arch32 the eclipse package is actually the 64-bit version...(also manjaro32). I might just stick with FreeBSD—it’s functioning fine enough for my needs. PKG repos offer a wide range of software. Still, the main problem is that everything seems to be built around Ubuntu, which isn’t ideal.

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Fa837241
Member
100
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#14
Today I thought a lot. Here are some updates and a bit of insight. I found the Eclipse bug report already from March, labeled as high priority. It’s disappointing, honestly. Other distros like Arch fix problems within a month for system issues, not even packaging ones. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sourc...ug/1754886 This isn’t a software flaw—it’s a packaging problem. As I mentioned, I’m not upset; they’re underpaid, but the disappointment is real.

I’m not angry, though. Those folks aren’t getting paid enough. The issue is significant. I’m someone who can handle Linux problems, but I just want a straightforward solution so things run smoothly. Right now, I prefer a simple distro. I’ve used Gentoo Linux for years just for fun and learning, but that’s all. Customization doesn’t always fix things—it needs to work out of the box. I believe a clean, beginner-friendly Linux distro is possible. Still, I don’t see enough effort from the Linux community and people.

Manjaro is close, but Ubuntu seems to be moving in a different direction. I remember when I helped fix bugs for Manjaro Linux, like the one about Optimus laptops. Those were unique features, but I don’t see why new users should struggle with adding a user to a group. That’s something the package manager does. I understand Linux’s potential, especially for server management, but it feels confusing to me.

It’s just a snippet of code, and it doesn’t make sense to me. I find it frustrating for newcomers who think Linux is difficult when it’s actually quite manageable. I don’t blame anyone else, especially for Manjaro, which is tough to use. They’ve shown that improving the desktop experience is possible, and I respect that effort.

But I wish things were clearer. Sometimes people just don’t realize why certain steps are needed. I’m not sure why the community chose this path, but maybe if more people understood, it would help.

Looking ahead, I hope Manjaro or Ubuntu evolves positively. Maybe if more people supported these changes, things would improve. Who knows what the future holds?
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Fa837241
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #14

Today I thought a lot. Here are some updates and a bit of insight. I found the Eclipse bug report already from March, labeled as high priority. It’s disappointing, honestly. Other distros like Arch fix problems within a month for system issues, not even packaging ones. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sourc...ug/1754886 This isn’t a software flaw—it’s a packaging problem. As I mentioned, I’m not upset; they’re underpaid, but the disappointment is real.

I’m not angry, though. Those folks aren’t getting paid enough. The issue is significant. I’m someone who can handle Linux problems, but I just want a straightforward solution so things run smoothly. Right now, I prefer a simple distro. I’ve used Gentoo Linux for years just for fun and learning, but that’s all. Customization doesn’t always fix things—it needs to work out of the box. I believe a clean, beginner-friendly Linux distro is possible. Still, I don’t see enough effort from the Linux community and people.

Manjaro is close, but Ubuntu seems to be moving in a different direction. I remember when I helped fix bugs for Manjaro Linux, like the one about Optimus laptops. Those were unique features, but I don’t see why new users should struggle with adding a user to a group. That’s something the package manager does. I understand Linux’s potential, especially for server management, but it feels confusing to me.

It’s just a snippet of code, and it doesn’t make sense to me. I find it frustrating for newcomers who think Linux is difficult when it’s actually quite manageable. I don’t blame anyone else, especially for Manjaro, which is tough to use. They’ve shown that improving the desktop experience is possible, and I respect that effort.

But I wish things were clearer. Sometimes people just don’t realize why certain steps are needed. I’m not sure why the community chose this path, but maybe if more people understood, it would help.

Looking ahead, I hope Manjaro or Ubuntu evolves positively. Maybe if more people supported these changes, things would improve. Who knows what the future holds?

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xX_rabby_Xx
Junior Member
31
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#15
I'm still learning Java for university purposes. I assumed you were a student before becoming a professional. There are many different IDEs available. I use IntelliJ IDEA. Eclipse doesn<|pad|>, they don't provide their own JRE. You usually get it from the system repository or from Oracle for proprietary versions. Debian might not include Eclipse, but you can install it directly from their website. If you have Java JDK installed, whether proprietary or openJDK, the installation is straightforward. If Eclipse isn't working, it's not just about Ubuntu—it could be related to the company or lack of support from the Eclipse Foundation.
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xX_rabby_Xx
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #15

I'm still learning Java for university purposes. I assumed you were a student before becoming a professional. There are many different IDEs available. I use IntelliJ IDEA. Eclipse doesn<|pad|>, they don't provide their own JRE. You usually get it from the system repository or from Oracle for proprietary versions. Debian might not include Eclipse, but you can install it directly from their website. If you have Java JDK installed, whether proprietary or openJDK, the installation is straightforward. If Eclipse isn't working, it's not just about Ubuntu—it could be related to the company or lack of support from the Eclipse Foundation.

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JimmieJRocks
Junior Member
16
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#16
some people aren't limited to the app store for getting their tools. downloading directly from the vendor works just as well. you can still build and install from source code you pull from github.
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JimmieJRocks
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #16

some people aren't limited to the app store for getting their tools. downloading directly from the vendor works just as well. you can still build and install from source code you pull from github.

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TardisImpala
Member
71
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#17
You simply decide to start the program in Wine and connect via SSH.
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TardisImpala
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #17

You simply decide to start the program in Wine and connect via SSH.

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RoMoCo510
Junior Member
10
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#18
It seems most Mac users aren't familiar with WINE or don't know if it's available.
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RoMoCo510
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #18

It seems most Mac users aren't familiar with WINE or don't know if it's available.

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Cherrie24
Member
179
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#19
yeah. there is a front end for it on the mac app store, but that costs $7.99... so i'm just going to stick with cli. i don't need a front end. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/winonx-2...4945?mt=12
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Cherrie24
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #19

yeah. there is a front end for it on the mac app store, but that costs $7.99... so i'm just going to stick with cli. i don't need a front end. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/winonx-2...4945?mt=12

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Ryanmon
Member
200
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM
#20
Linux desktop needs improvement, isn't it? It might work better on a server from 2019.
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Ryanmon
08-20-2025, 11:02 PM #20

Linux desktop needs improvement, isn't it? It might work better on a server from 2019.

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