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Switching from AM4 to AM5 is a hardware upgrade.

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Destructor52
Junior Member
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11-04-2023, 07:07 PM
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I'm looking to upgrade from my: AMD 5800X3D and Asus rog strix b550-f with 4 sticks of 32/Gb of 3200 MT/s Cl 16 The reason i want to upgrade is i got my hands on a RTX 4090 going from the 4070 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not sure which motherboard i want to get I have both looked at the ASUS ROG X670E-F and X870-F They are the same price pretty much the only reason i would go with the X670E would it has 2 more sata ports. But yeah idk if the X870 would be better. In terms of CPUs i have looked at the 9800X3D and the 9950X3D but yeah idk. If i should generally just wait for zen 6 since people said the chips will have 12 cores. But it's probably like a year and a half of waiting so yeah idk. And of course ram would probably just be 2 sticks of 32/Gb of 6000 MT/s Cl 30 Any other recommendations would be very welcome I normally do a lot of VR and Gaming in general with work stuff/productivity on the side.
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Destructor52
11-04-2023, 07:07 PM #1

I'm looking to upgrade from my: AMD 5800X3D and Asus rog strix b550-f with 4 sticks of 32/Gb of 3200 MT/s Cl 16 The reason i want to upgrade is i got my hands on a RTX 4090 going from the 4070 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not sure which motherboard i want to get I have both looked at the ASUS ROG X670E-F and X870-F They are the same price pretty much the only reason i would go with the X670E would it has 2 more sata ports. But yeah idk if the X870 would be better. In terms of CPUs i have looked at the 9800X3D and the 9950X3D but yeah idk. If i should generally just wait for zen 6 since people said the chips will have 12 cores. But it's probably like a year and a half of waiting so yeah idk. And of course ram would probably just be 2 sticks of 32/Gb of 6000 MT/s Cl 30 Any other recommendations would be very welcome I normally do a lot of VR and Gaming in general with work stuff/productivity on the side.

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coyote888
Posting Freak
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11-04-2023, 09:23 PM
#2
X870 supports USB4 while X670E does not. Using USB4 often causes lane sharing issues that X670E is less prone to. The 5800X3D remains a powerful CPU for most available graphics cards, making it safe to delay purchase. The 9950X3D isn't suitable just for gaming; you'll need better multithreaded performance or you're missing out. If you plan further upgrades, consider adding more RAM to your current system and opt for 2x32 sticks. Modern DDR5 CPUs typically don't handle four memory modules well, which could cause problems later.
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coyote888
11-04-2023, 09:23 PM #2

X870 supports USB4 while X670E does not. Using USB4 often causes lane sharing issues that X670E is less prone to. The 5800X3D remains a powerful CPU for most available graphics cards, making it safe to delay purchase. The 9950X3D isn't suitable just for gaming; you'll need better multithreaded performance or you're missing out. If you plan further upgrades, consider adding more RAM to your current system and opt for 2x32 sticks. Modern DDR5 CPUs typically don't handle four memory modules well, which could cause problems later.

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DrShadows
Junior Member
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11-05-2023, 08:19 AM
#3
I missed mentioning that I recently acquired a 4090 from a 4070. It was a small mistake, but I thought it was two 32s.
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DrShadows
11-05-2023, 08:19 AM #3

I missed mentioning that I recently acquired a 4090 from a 4070. It was a small mistake, but I thought it was two 32s.

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Jak544
Junior Member
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11-10-2023, 10:13 PM
#4
You're looking for the right I/O and features. The x870e Taichi Lite and Nova are top choices, while the X870F has issues when adding a fourth M.2—only the Nova supports it on the fifth M.2, whereas the X870F lacks this entirely. Both support USB4, and both have a useful postcode for diagnostics and overclocking. The Taichi Lite offers an X8 x8 bifurcation, ideal for dual-GPU setups, while the Nova includes a fifth M.2 slot for larger storage needs.
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Jak544
11-10-2023, 10:13 PM #4

You're looking for the right I/O and features. The x870e Taichi Lite and Nova are top choices, while the X870F has issues when adding a fourth M.2—only the Nova supports it on the fifth M.2, whereas the X870F lacks this entirely. Both support USB4, and both have a useful postcode for diagnostics and overclocking. The Taichi Lite offers an X8 x8 bifurcation, ideal for dual-GPU setups, while the Nova includes a fifth M.2 slot for larger storage needs.

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Zmondy
Senior Member
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12-01-2023, 01:50 AM
#5
Comparing x870e vs x670e—worth it depends on your needs. Since you won’t use USB4 or Wi-Fi 7, focus on performance and features that matter most to you.
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Zmondy
12-01-2023, 01:50 AM #5

Comparing x870e vs x670e—worth it depends on your needs. Since you won’t use USB4 or Wi-Fi 7, focus on performance and features that matter most to you.

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RevengeLP
Member
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12-06-2023, 01:05 AM
#6
The BIOS is quite alike to the ASUS ROG One. The Taichi Lite differs more from the Nova in terms of design and features.
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RevengeLP
12-06-2023, 01:05 AM #6

The BIOS is quite alike to the ASUS ROG One. The Taichi Lite differs more from the Nova in terms of design and features.

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titowulk
Member
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12-06-2023, 01:48 AM
#7
It should be comparable in terms of bios, but I don’t think it matters much unless you’re someone who really dives into Taichi and Nova distinctions. The Taichi has PCIE bifurcation, while Nova lacks it, though Nova supports a 5th M.2. Technically, Taichi remains better since you can run six NVMe drives without issues, but you might want to consider getting a NAS instead.
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titowulk
12-06-2023, 01:48 AM #7

It should be comparable in terms of bios, but I don’t think it matters much unless you’re someone who really dives into Taichi and Nova distinctions. The Taichi has PCIE bifurcation, while Nova lacks it, though Nova supports a 5th M.2. Technically, Taichi remains better since you can run six NVMe drives without issues, but you might want to consider getting a NAS instead.

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DanielPlayzz
Junior Member
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12-07-2023, 06:38 PM
#8
Nope, that is the E, not the F.
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DanielPlayzz
12-07-2023, 06:38 PM #8

Nope, that is the E, not the F.

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jReew
Member
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12-08-2023, 11:19 AM
#9
Choose the b650/b850 only because you don’t need its extra features. A solid power delivery board for these models is readily available for under $150. The 5800x3d remains an excellent choice for gaming, unless you’re running demanding games that require more processing power. If so, opt for the 9800x3d—it’s faster and easier to manage its heat.
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jReew
12-08-2023, 11:19 AM #9

Choose the b650/b850 only because you don’t need its extra features. A solid power delivery board for these models is readily available for under $150. The 5800x3d remains an excellent choice for gaming, unless you’re running demanding games that require more processing power. If so, opt for the 9800x3d—it’s faster and easier to manage its heat.

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ladymorepork
Posting Freak
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12-09-2023, 09:27 AM
#10
Opt for simpler choices like the B650E or B850. Both are on the AM5 platform—my brother uses a B650-A and I have an X670E-F from Roge. They perform similarly in gaming and offer comparable BIOS options. The X670E-F gives a bit more BIOS flexibility, but it can cause instability in some setups. You already have a 5800X3D that works well with the 4090 for 2K gaming; I’d hold off until the next generation around 2027.
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ladymorepork
12-09-2023, 09:27 AM #10

Opt for simpler choices like the B650E or B850. Both are on the AM5 platform—my brother uses a B650-A and I have an X670E-F from Roge. They perform similarly in gaming and offer comparable BIOS options. The X670E-F gives a bit more BIOS flexibility, but it can cause instability in some setups. You already have a 5800X3D that works well with the 4090 for 2K gaming; I’d hold off until the next generation around 2027.

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