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Sure, please review your proposed build for any potential issues.

Sure, please review your proposed build for any potential issues.

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Bombartia
Senior Member
430
11-27-2022, 02:54 PM
#1
Hey everyone, I'm getting ready to set up an AMD build using the new Ryzen 7 8700G. I quickly noticed that APUs aren't usually the best choice for a gaming rig, so I expect some limitations. First off, this is more about gaming than performance—just a clarification. Two years back I built an AMD system for my grandson using the top-end APU from the previous generation, and he had no problems running many modern titles without any issues. My main games are World of Tanks, Armored Warfare, War Thunder, the new Project Cold War/CW, and a few older titles that I still enjoy playing. I’m not aiming for competitive play, so games like CS:GO, Call of Duty, Fortnite, and similar titles aren’t on my list.

Here’s what I’m thinking for the build:
1) AMD Ryzen 7 8700G
2) ID-cooling-frozn-a720-black-986-cfm-cpu-cooler-frozn-a720-black
3) Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX Rev 1.0 ATX AM5 Motherboard
4) Gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6800-cl34-memory-f5-6800j3445g16gx2-rs5k X2 (totaling 64 GB RAM)
5) Samsung-970-evo-plus-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s500bam
6) Samsung-870-evo-1-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-77e1t0bam
7) Thermaltake-ceres-300-tg-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1y2-00m1wn-00
8) be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

Please share your thoughts and any alternative ideas you might have. I’ve already updated the BIOS on the MOBO after confirming the part numbers with PC Part Picker. Thanks, everyone!
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Bombartia
11-27-2022, 02:54 PM #1

Hey everyone, I'm getting ready to set up an AMD build using the new Ryzen 7 8700G. I quickly noticed that APUs aren't usually the best choice for a gaming rig, so I expect some limitations. First off, this is more about gaming than performance—just a clarification. Two years back I built an AMD system for my grandson using the top-end APU from the previous generation, and he had no problems running many modern titles without any issues. My main games are World of Tanks, Armored Warfare, War Thunder, the new Project Cold War/CW, and a few older titles that I still enjoy playing. I’m not aiming for competitive play, so games like CS:GO, Call of Duty, Fortnite, and similar titles aren’t on my list.

Here’s what I’m thinking for the build:
1) AMD Ryzen 7 8700G
2) ID-cooling-frozn-a720-black-986-cfm-cpu-cooler-frozn-a720-black
3) Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX Rev 1.0 ATX AM5 Motherboard
4) Gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6800-cl34-memory-f5-6800j3445g16gx2-rs5k X2 (totaling 64 GB RAM)
5) Samsung-970-evo-plus-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s500bam
6) Samsung-870-evo-1-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-77e1t0bam
7) Thermaltake-ceres-300-tg-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1y2-00m1wn-00
8) be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

Please share your thoughts and any alternative ideas you might have. I’ve already updated the BIOS on the MOBO after confirming the part numbers with PC Part Picker. Thanks, everyone!

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nuclernoah101
Member
120
12-01-2022, 06:52 PM
#2
8700g is a strong processor, though keep in mind its integrated GPU is around the GTX 1060 level, so it should work similarly in games.
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nuclernoah101
12-01-2022, 06:52 PM #2

8700g is a strong processor, though keep in mind its integrated GPU is around the GTX 1060 level, so it should work similarly in games.

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luc00700
Member
65
12-22-2022, 08:56 PM
#3
The 8700g is a poor investment. There are significantly more gaming capabilities available with an AM4 configuration, or even a 12th or 13th generation i5 Intel build. For example, you might find a 5700x processor, DDR4 RAM, a motherboard, and an RX 6600 for a similar cost to an 8700g, b650 board, and RAM. You're looking for a 2x32gb memory setup. Four sticks don't always perform well, especially on DDR5 systems. Those SSDs are also outdated.

Your current build
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
($329.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler:
ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler
($69.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard
($252.59 @ Amazon)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME SSD
($59.99 @ GameStop)
Storage:
Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" SSD
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Thermaltake Ceres 300 TG ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply:
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total:
$1241.42
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
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PCPartPicker
2024-02-10 23:14 EST-0500
This price seems excessive for the performance you'd receive. A more efficient alternative could be spending around $1200.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor
($212.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card:
XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card
($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Thermaltake Ceres 300 TG ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$1210.83
Expenses include shipping, taxes, and any applicable discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-02-10 23:20 EST-0500
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luc00700
12-22-2022, 08:56 PM #3

The 8700g is a poor investment. There are significantly more gaming capabilities available with an AM4 configuration, or even a 12th or 13th generation i5 Intel build. For example, you might find a 5700x processor, DDR4 RAM, a motherboard, and an RX 6600 for a similar cost to an 8700g, b650 board, and RAM. You're looking for a 2x32gb memory setup. Four sticks don't always perform well, especially on DDR5 systems. Those SSDs are also outdated.

Your current build
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
($329.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler:
ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler
($69.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard
($252.59 @ Amazon)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME SSD
($59.99 @ GameStop)
Storage:
Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" SSD
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Thermaltake Ceres 300 TG ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply:
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($109.90 @ Amazon)
Total:
$1241.42
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2024-02-10 23:14 EST-0500
This price seems excessive for the performance you'd receive. A more efficient alternative could be spending around $1200.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor
($212.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card:
XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card
($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Thermaltake Ceres 300 TG ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$1210.83
Expenses include shipping, taxes, and any applicable discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-02-10 23:20 EST-0500

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parking2525
Member
118
12-23-2022, 03:55 AM
#4
Yes, I understand. But I didn't say that I'm using a new system; I was just talking about an old Athlon 5980, around ten years old, with 16 gig of DDR3 memory and an 8 gig rx580 GPU.
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parking2525
12-23-2022, 03:55 AM #4

Yes, I understand. But I didn't say that I'm using a new system; I was just talking about an old Athlon 5980, around ten years old, with 16 gig of DDR3 memory and an 8 gig rx580 GPU.

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Kronicftw
Member
195
12-30-2022, 06:17 PM
#5
Thank you for the details, I will choose AMD no matter what happens, since I don't like Intel at all.
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Kronicftw
12-30-2022, 06:17 PM #5

Thank you for the details, I will choose AMD no matter what happens, since I don't like Intel at all.

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Ellie_12
Member
51
12-31-2022, 05:48 PM
#6
It's reasonable. I built a 5800x/RX6800 myself, but I also have an Intel setup from before that I used occasionally. Still, I'd pick the AM4 version over the 8700g for better gaming performance at the price.
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Ellie_12
12-31-2022, 05:48 PM #6

It's reasonable. I built a 5800x/RX6800 myself, but I also have an Intel setup from before that I used occasionally. Still, I'd pick the AM4 version over the 8700g for better gaming performance at the price.

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BALLADAY
Junior Member
33
01-02-2023, 03:53 AM
#7
I experienced serious problems with Intel in the early days, especially during Windows 95 through XP. They consistently let me down. A colleague who worked with computers became interested in building systems and obtained most of his components, then through Tiger Direct, introduced me to AMD, which changed everything.
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BALLADAY
01-02-2023, 03:53 AM #7

I experienced serious problems with Intel in the early days, especially during Windows 95 through XP. They consistently let me down. A colleague who worked with computers became interested in building systems and obtained most of his components, then through Tiger Direct, introduced me to AMD, which changed everything.

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Misterjaws77
Member
215
01-06-2023, 01:27 AM
#8
Anyway, getting back to the topic, you mentioned something about using a 2 stick VS a 4 stick configuration when it comes to memory. I am curious as to why is that. While I know a little bit about it all, I am by far, no expert on any of this. Any advice you or anyone could give is always welcome. Also AMD stands by their recommended 5200 memory rating compatibility advice. Plus looking at many of the other brands, PC Park picker show a shows a voltage in-compatibility with just about all memory, except for the G-Skill band. I am very curious and need help wit it. Thanks
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Misterjaws77
01-06-2023, 01:27 AM #8

Anyway, getting back to the topic, you mentioned something about using a 2 stick VS a 4 stick configuration when it comes to memory. I am curious as to why is that. While I know a little bit about it all, I am by far, no expert on any of this. Any advice you or anyone could give is always welcome. Also AMD stands by their recommended 5200 memory rating compatibility advice. Plus looking at many of the other brands, PC Park picker show a shows a voltage in-compatibility with just about all memory, except for the G-Skill band. I am very curious and need help wit it. Thanks

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Sammy706
Member
79
01-06-2023, 02:17 AM
#9
Are you really requiring 64gb of RAM? If yes, avoid attempting to achieve that with two separate 32gb units. RAM must be compatible with the manufacturer's specifications to deliver the promised performance. Here is the list of motherboard RAM specifications:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X67...ort-memsup
There are no compatible 64gb kits available on the page.
The maximum you can achieve is a two-stick configuration with 48gb total. Ryzen processors use dual-channel design, so four sticks offer no extra benefit and typically cost more.
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Sammy706
01-06-2023, 02:17 AM #9

Are you really requiring 64gb of RAM? If yes, avoid attempting to achieve that with two separate 32gb units. RAM must be compatible with the manufacturer's specifications to deliver the promised performance. Here is the list of motherboard RAM specifications:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X67...ort-memsup
There are no compatible 64gb kits available on the page.
The maximum you can achieve is a two-stick configuration with 48gb total. Ryzen processors use dual-channel design, so four sticks offer no extra benefit and typically cost more.

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redzern
Junior Member
11
01-11-2023, 04:28 AM
#10
I understand the spreadsheet is useful. I think I'll reduce it to a 2X16=32 G Skill kit, since that's what's suggested for the current AMD processor and also works well with MOBO. I discovered that even 48GB is significantly more costly than 32GB, which is quite a price jump.
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redzern
01-11-2023, 04:28 AM #10

I understand the spreadsheet is useful. I think I'll reduce it to a 2X16=32 G Skill kit, since that's what's suggested for the current AMD processor and also works well with MOBO. I discovered that even 48GB is significantly more costly than 32GB, which is quite a price jump.

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