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Suggestions for connecting via smartphones are worth sharing.

Suggestions for connecting via smartphones are worth sharing.

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lewmas17
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06-23-2023, 07:49 PM
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Recently I attended a trade show as a vendor. Our booth was well-equipped with a powerful router, and we also had a mobile transportation robot—essentially a compact, load-carrying robot similar to a Roomba. The challenge was needing wireless control of the robot in case it got lost or someone wanted to block its path. I managed to keep it within range by placing it on a small LAN network using a USB-powered router, which worked well in our shop despite the distance. However, at the event with hundreds of visitors and many wireless networks nearby, maintaining a stable connection became difficult. I had to stay close to ensure control.

This made me consider an alternative: using two cell phones to create a point-to-point LAN via LTE signals. It might be possible, as both devices could communicate directly without relying on the internet. I’m open to ideas and documentation, and I think this approach could work. My idea is that both phones would exchange data directly, eliminating the need for Wi-Fi or long-range connections. I’m also curious about whether cell phone radio signals could extend the range of such a network.
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lewmas17
06-23-2023, 07:49 PM #1

Recently I attended a trade show as a vendor. Our booth was well-equipped with a powerful router, and we also had a mobile transportation robot—essentially a compact, load-carrying robot similar to a Roomba. The challenge was needing wireless control of the robot in case it got lost or someone wanted to block its path. I managed to keep it within range by placing it on a small LAN network using a USB-powered router, which worked well in our shop despite the distance. However, at the event with hundreds of visitors and many wireless networks nearby, maintaining a stable connection became difficult. I had to stay close to ensure control.

This made me consider an alternative: using two cell phones to create a point-to-point LAN via LTE signals. It might be possible, as both devices could communicate directly without relying on the internet. I’m open to ideas and documentation, and I think this approach could work. My idea is that both phones would exchange data directly, eliminating the need for Wi-Fi or long-range connections. I’m also curious about whether cell phone radio signals could extend the range of such a network.

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XI_Belle_IX
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07-08-2023, 11:33 AM
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Even though I’m not an expert on LTE, I think linking two phones directly in a peer-to-peer setup isn’t really possible—they weren’t built for that kind of communication. https://www.quora.com/Can-you-connect-2-...tly-by-LTE Have you checked out something like LoRaWAN? I’m not sure about your data needs; it seems to be just sending simple commands, like “move to this location.” Video streaming over LoRa wouldn’t work, but for low-bandwidth tasks you could create a small private network using a Raspberry Pi as a LoRa gateway. The coverage can reach several miles, though the data rate is very low—bps rather than kbps. Another choice would be to switch all your gear to Wi-Fi 6E, which is becoming more common and offers plenty of channels. If you prefer something simpler, you could use a budget LTE hotspot or a phone such as the TP-Link M7200 (~$35) and set up a VPN between the devices.
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XI_Belle_IX
07-08-2023, 11:33 AM #2

Even though I’m not an expert on LTE, I think linking two phones directly in a peer-to-peer setup isn’t really possible—they weren’t built for that kind of communication. https://www.quora.com/Can-you-connect-2-...tly-by-LTE Have you checked out something like LoRaWAN? I’m not sure about your data needs; it seems to be just sending simple commands, like “move to this location.” Video streaming over LoRa wouldn’t work, but for low-bandwidth tasks you could create a small private network using a Raspberry Pi as a LoRa gateway. The coverage can reach several miles, though the data rate is very low—bps rather than kbps. Another choice would be to switch all your gear to Wi-Fi 6E, which is becoming more common and offers plenty of channels. If you prefer something simpler, you could use a budget LTE hotspot or a phone such as the TP-Link M7200 (~$35) and set up a VPN between the devices.

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oHits
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07-09-2023, 06:20 AM
#3
this configuration would actually have limited bandwidth since it only manages a TCP/UDP link. the aim is to switch to a regular Wi-Fi source to remove interference and maybe extend coverage.
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oHits
07-09-2023, 06:20 AM #3

this configuration would actually have limited bandwidth since it only manages a TCP/UDP link. the aim is to switch to a regular Wi-Fi source to remove interference and maybe extend coverage.

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_FairyDarker_
Junior Member
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07-09-2023, 06:30 AM
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they offer another option for radio-based communication instead of WiFi. it could work well in a peer-to-peer setup for a compact network, supporting up to three devices. the robot can be connected via a laptop, controlled from a phone or tablet, and then join the network when needed.
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_FairyDarker_
07-09-2023, 06:30 AM #4

they offer another option for radio-based communication instead of WiFi. it could work well in a peer-to-peer setup for a compact network, supporting up to three devices. the robot can be connected via a laptop, controlled from a phone or tablet, and then join the network when needed.

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Eva52044
Junior Member
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07-09-2023, 07:27 AM
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Could two phones communicate across that range using ham radio waves? It’s possible, though challenging. I think it could work with careful setup, and yes, ham signals have been used for messaging before.
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Eva52044
07-09-2023, 07:27 AM #5

Could two phones communicate across that range using ham radio waves? It’s possible, though challenging. I think it could work with careful setup, and yes, ham signals have been used for messaging before.

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QuintenvH2001
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07-10-2023, 08:52 AM
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QuintenvH2001
07-10-2023, 08:52 AM #6