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Hello! I have posted this question some days ago, but now the site changed (I think?) and I lost track of my post. Dunno if it really exists or not, sorry if I double post.
Been posting and asking this on a huge lot of forums and support places, for like MONTHS, and I just can't find a solution. Please, anyone, help me somehow with a suggestion. Last place where I posted was CNET, and a guy from there suggested me this place to ask. Anyway, since it is quite a lot to write, I will just copy paste what I wrote in my last thread on CNET, and also copy the updates I have provided there. Thanks a lot to all of you for trying to help me!
"Hello!
I got an issue I just can't seem to find a way to fix. I am open to anything. I just freaking want to get rid of this. I got stuttering in nearly all video games (not all). Like, a video game running in DOSBox has no stuttering, but any 3d game out there is full of them.
What kind of stuttering? Here are two examples, both of them recorded a while ago by me, today being the same way as then:
1.
View: https://youtu.be/DzBjLyfu8Kg
2.
View: https://youtu.be/1Rh-ITGAz28
So, there is a very long story behind this issue, a really huge one, but I will try to say it as short as possible. This issue is for like months of months. Used to have 1SSD with 120GB on which I only had my Windows installed, a HDD with 1TB on which I only had my programs installed, and a 4TB HDD on which I had all my video games installed. After posting on a forum about my issue, some dudes kept saying it is because of the 2 HDDs, somehow they said they are faulty because they found something written in Speccy. But what are the odds both of them to have issues? Anyhow I tried reinstalling the windows and changing the sata cables to the HDDs, no result. Scanned both of them and the SSD for errors with HDDTune, no errors. Changed the install folder of a game from the 4TD HDD to the 1TD HDD and then the 120GB SSD, stuttering on all of them. I ran out of ideas so I went to an IT repair shop or however it was called, and gave 108 freaking euros to have my PC tested. They said that both HDDs are fine, but the SSD showed issues when tested. Alright, went home and took out the SSD and installed the Windows and all my programs on the 1TB HDD, and all my video games still on the 4TD HDD. Now the PC was way slower (obviously because there was no SSD anymore), but not only slower, but everything kept freezing and stuff. That showed me that the 1TB HDD had something for sure, but before doing AGAIN anything rushed and losing money again, I remembered that my video card still had warranty, so I sent it back to the place where I bought it from, and received a new one in its place. Yes, no change. Ran out of options so I stayed like that for a while, until some days ago when I finally had the money to buy a new SSD. A 1TB one. Bought it, put it inside and installed windows and all of my programs on it, took out the 1TB HDD, and left the 4TB HDD to have all my video games installed on it. Aight, So I went and installed all of my video games on the 4TB HDD again, the programs, made the pc settings and whatever and guess what, tried to run CS:GO and the stuttering is still there, but way more rare, like before I had it 10 times in a round, now I had once in 2 rounds or something. Oh, but the PC is faster as it ever was, and everything runs amazingly smooth, just that I still got stuttering. After testing with CS GO, I went and made my steam grids and added all of my games on steam, then ran a HDDTune errors scan on my new SSD, ofc no errors, and after I was done with everything, I went and took my pc to take the dust. (I know the time sounds funny, but I just received my comprimate air thingy so yeah) After being done with that, I've put my PC back and tried to run Assassin's Creed Syndicate... aaaannd.. whoa what, got a huge lots of stuttering, the same as in the video, also the same as I used to have at the very beginning of this adventure. Then I run CS:GO, lolwut, all of my 10 stuttering per round are back. Changed the install location of CS GO to the SSD, exatly the same.
So, that was all, I literally feel like crying for wasting so much money, time, effort, and everything, and I still have no solution. It feels like I will never find my way out of this issue ever, only by buying a new pc. So, please, I beg you all from the bottom of my broken heart.... help... me... I can't play one freakin game without stuttering, only if the game is a visual novel or a 20 years old pixelated game for DOS...
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Rfrdq...f74fAoK7g4
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UPDATE 1&2 after someone told me to just completely take out the HDD:
"As an update, I just tried without the HDD, only with the SSD connected, and I still have stuttering. Tried using CS:GO.
So, it seems the HDD is not the real problem here...
I'll also try the other solutions either later today or tomorrow. Though I am 100% not hoping for any miracle, I... have no hope left after all I tried so far.."
"So, we can ignore all your tips for the HDD and everything you posted below that is windows/software related. I ran in safe mode, no use, and then I just took out the 4TB HDD completely from the pc and only let the 1TB SSD, and changed the Sata Cable and the slot where the sata cable was inserted, and then did a complete windows reset. After the reset, the first thing I made sure was that I have the latest windows updates (it only updated some malware definitions), and then updated the video card with geforce experience, made sure there was no issue displayed in the device manager (did not install any other driver than the video card, because before when I reinstalled the windows, everytime I first updated all drivers and then tested for stuttering, thought maybe if I do it this way I will have no more stuttering, was hoping for a driver to be the issue) and then installed Steam and CS:GO. As you can guess, I still have stuttering.
We can now completely "delete" some stuff from the possible reasons for my issue:
- HDD/SSD (HDD because I took it out and I reset the windows, SSD because it is new and I had stuttering before it as well)
- anything software/not hardware related (because I just restarted the windows after a hundred thousand times, and tested without having anything else installed)
- SATA cable (just changed it for the third time)
- GPU (even though you tell me to test it, I am 100% sure it is not the issue, since I had it replaced, and had the same stuttering with the old one, as much as I have now with the new one)
- HDMI cable (forgot to mention I tested that out as well, tested with 2 different hdmi cable, and a dvi one)
What's left to test out? Just tell how and what to test, and I will. Can it be from the monitor? Motherboard? PSU? CPU? RAM? I also tested all four rams I have half a year ago I think, and they were alright, but I will gladly test them again, if you think that can be a cause."
Best regards to all of you!
It would help if you'd at least mention what spec you're running, how old it is, and what background programs you run if any while gaming (include startups)? Also whether your GPU and audio drivers are updated? You also need to make sure the redist files in each game directory are installed (DirectX, Visual Studio).
I'm especially curious what audio device and driver you're using because I noticed in both videos at certain points when it hitches, the audio cuts out as well.
I would also suggest running MSI Afterburner and set GPU and CPU usage to show onscreen while playing. Then upload a short video of one of your more demanding games. This will show if you have a balanced system. Often times people keep their core system for many years and just keep upgrading the GPU. This eventually leads to a severe enough bottleneck where the GPU has to frequently wait for the CPU to send it rendering data, which can cause hitching or stutter.
Another thing you can try if on an Nvidia GPU is downloading the latest PhysX, to make sure any games you play that use it have the latest version. In some games, like ACIV for instance, you actually have to disable it or set it to Low, as it's broken in some games and can cause stutter. Same with Nvidia Gameworks, when having problems like this, try disabling it.
If by chance you're running SLI, definitely install the latest Nvidia Inspector, which can vastly improve and smooth SLI performance in some games.
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvi...nload.html
What you have is a single severe hitch every now and then which is a brief freeze. I can tell by your first video you're running a 4K display, but I'd like to know what the guts of your spec are comprised of.
Please take another look at my message; much of what you said indicates you only glanced at a small portion of what I wrote. Additionally, inexplicably, my stammering has ceased. It just vanished out of nowhere without any changes on my part. The only alteration was receiving several system updates over the past two or three nights, after which my stuttering disappeared entirely. I’ve been playing numerous games I own and experiencing absolutely no stutters. I'm incredibly pleased! After almost a year of battling this issue, I believe it might have stemmed from my hard drive, and my computer simply needed time to recover after its removal (despite me also reinstalling Windows and still encountering stuttering, which is illogical, but who cares?!). Or perhaps the windows update resolved something. I’m absolutely thrilled!
It appears you encountered a frequently reported challenge where Windows 10 failed to adequately release standby memory, leading to increased memory consumption and subsequent performance hiccups—specifically stuttering during gameplay. It’s reassuring that Microsoft has now addressed this longstanding issue.
I usually quickly scan posts that appear disorganized and excessively lengthy, especially those lacking clear paragraph breaks. It’s far more convenient when information is presented concisely with a brief summary instead of being delivered as a large, unbroken block of text. This also explains why many requests for assistance are overlooked.
A potential solution could involve either a Microsoft update – as previously discussed – or a CPU microcode update, which have been frequent recently due to identified security vulnerabilities. The initial fixes resulted in performance degradation, but recent updates have somewhat mitigated this issue. I’m running the latest version of Windows 10 Pro x64 with all current updates and haven't observed any performance differences related to these updates, although I wasn’t previously experiencing those intermittent freezes you demonstrated.
It would be simpler to determine if the microcode update was responsible if you had included a short list of your key hardware specifications (as is typical when posting similar threads), as this has a greater impact on older CPU models. I don't mind your comment regarding my incomplete reading of your post; it could certainly have been presented more effectively. Just consider this feedback for future submissions.
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Despite my hurried review, I understood the core message – primarily concerning installation locations, drives utilized, hardware upgrades, and cabling. The information was quite general, without details about specific specifications or driver versions; it only mentioned a “reset” (formatting?) of Windows. Furthermore, I offered helpful suggestions in my response, and if anything was disregarded, it was that advice.
I’m uncertain whether that information was originally present or later included, but it represents an excessive complication of something that could easily be streamlined. Generally, only CPU, GPU, RAM, and OS are necessary to specify, and users typically aren't interested in sifting through a DxDiag-style inventory solely to determine their drivers, OS version, and other details. Perhaps adopting a presentation method more commonly used would encourage greater engagement. This approach significantly contributes to receiving more feedback.