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Stability problems with the 7950X3D chip

Stability problems with the 7950X3D chip

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Ethann1
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
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Hi, I recently assembled a new PC three weeks ago and have been experiencing memory instability. The CPU is the 7950X3D, the RAM uses G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000, and the motherboard is an Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS with Wi-Fi. The full parts list is available here: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4jWRrD. Problems appear as bluescreens on Windows, kernel panics and random freezes in Linux, plus crashes in apps. These usually include a "memory management" warning and most kernel panics start with "bad page state." They typically appear within about an hour after powering on. I’ve run MemTest86 extensively with various setups—sometimes it passes, sometimes it fails unpredictably. The issues seem more frequent when EXPO is enabled, but they also occur with standard memory configurations. However, yesterday I ran y-cruncher for 12 hours with EXPO enabled and got no errors, whereas the system usually crashes after 20–60 minutes. I also tried the "easy memory timings" from a BuildZoid video, but it was even less stable than EXPO. I initially thought the memory was defective, so I sent it back via RMA, but the problem continued. By now, I’ve replaced nearly every component—CPU, motherboard, PSU, SSD—without any improvement. The only exception was the CPU cooler; temperatures stayed around 40°C at idle and 60–80°C under load, which isn’t unusual for that model. The memory modules weren’t listed on the original motherboard’s QVL, but they are included in the new build’s list. I’ve updated the BIOS on each board recently. I’ve essentially created a second machine to troubleshoot this over several weeks. I’m at my wit’s end and would really appreciate any guidance you can offer.
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Ethann1
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #1

Hi, I recently assembled a new PC three weeks ago and have been experiencing memory instability. The CPU is the 7950X3D, the RAM uses G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000, and the motherboard is an Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS with Wi-Fi. The full parts list is available here: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4jWRrD. Problems appear as bluescreens on Windows, kernel panics and random freezes in Linux, plus crashes in apps. These usually include a "memory management" warning and most kernel panics start with "bad page state." They typically appear within about an hour after powering on. I’ve run MemTest86 extensively with various setups—sometimes it passes, sometimes it fails unpredictably. The issues seem more frequent when EXPO is enabled, but they also occur with standard memory configurations. However, yesterday I ran y-cruncher for 12 hours with EXPO enabled and got no errors, whereas the system usually crashes after 20–60 minutes. I also tried the "easy memory timings" from a BuildZoid video, but it was even less stable than EXPO. I initially thought the memory was defective, so I sent it back via RMA, but the problem continued. By now, I’ve replaced nearly every component—CPU, motherboard, PSU, SSD—without any improvement. The only exception was the CPU cooler; temperatures stayed around 40°C at idle and 60–80°C under load, which isn’t unusual for that model. The memory modules weren’t listed on the original motherboard’s QVL, but they are included in the new build’s list. I’ve updated the BIOS on each board recently. I’ve essentially created a second machine to troubleshoot this over several weeks. I’m at my wit’s end and would really appreciate any guidance you can offer.

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levoyageur92
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
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Checked memory performance under auto settings to rule out RAM problems. Verified RAM placement on slots A2 and B2. Avoided running PBO due to the CPU overheating concern. Consulted ASUS documentation for voltage restrictions on this model.
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levoyageur92
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #2

Checked memory performance under auto settings to rule out RAM problems. Verified RAM placement on slots A2 and B2. Avoided running PBO due to the CPU overheating concern. Consulted ASUS documentation for voltage restrictions on this model.

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Poketerp
Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#3
It seems it's not the motherboard itself. I own an ASUS Crosshair Hero VII and faced problems from the start with RAM timings when using 3200MHz RAM. Updates to the BIOS have helped somewhat, but stability hasn't been perfect. I plan to build my next system using MSI or Gigabyte instead of ASUS motherboards.
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Poketerp
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #3

It seems it's not the motherboard itself. I own an ASUS Crosshair Hero VII and faced problems from the start with RAM timings when using 3200MHz RAM. Updates to the BIOS have helped somewhat, but stability hasn't been perfect. I plan to build my next system using MSI or Gigabyte instead of ASUS motherboards.

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Dudy03
Junior Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#4
I tested the memory using both stock (auto) configurations and EXPO settings. I used the newest BIOS across all motherboards without modifying PBO. The modules fit the slots specified in the motherboard manual.
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Dudy03
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #4

I tested the memory using both stock (auto) configurations and EXPO settings. I used the newest BIOS across all motherboards without modifying PBO. The modules fit the slots specified in the motherboard manual.

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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#5
It might be possible, but I've already tried two different motherboards. I'd rather avoid buying another one.
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___dalton___12
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #5

It might be possible, but I've already tried two different motherboards. I'd rather avoid buying another one.

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jrobbs7
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#6
I didn't hear you say that, but I guess you'd be curious about Windows too?
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jrobbs7
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #6

I didn't hear you say that, but I guess you'd be curious about Windows too?

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MissPink09
Junior Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#7
I've used Windows, Linux, and MemTest86, but none of them worked.
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MissPink09
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #7

I've used Windows, Linux, and MemTest86, but none of them worked.

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Tudaofuat
Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#8
32GB DIMMs with those speeds could be unreliable; consider 36-36-36-76 for more stable options.
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Tudaofuat
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #8

32GB DIMMs with those speeds could be unreliable; consider 36-36-36-76 for more stable options.

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mikail1
Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#9
It seems the problem might stem from mismatched components or compatibility issues. Even with a fully rebuilt system, problems like OS installation errors or unstable performance can occur due to incorrect RAM speeds or mismatched hardware. Consider testing with a different RAM brand or speed if possible. Your experience with AM5 stability issues is relevant, but the severity here appears higher.
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mikail1
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #9

It seems the problem might stem from mismatched components or compatibility issues. Even with a fully rebuilt system, problems like OS installation errors or unstable performance can occur due to incorrect RAM speeds or mismatched hardware. Consider testing with a different RAM brand or speed if possible. Your experience with AM5 stability issues is relevant, but the severity here appears higher.

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Zelda_Boy
Member
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08-05-2023, 05:06 AM
#10
I used the default settings I found to be 4800 MT/s with 40-40-40-77 timings. It was generally stable though it would still occasionally produce errors. I plan to test 6000 MT/s with the timings you recommended.
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Zelda_Boy
08-05-2023, 05:06 AM #10

I used the default settings I found to be 4800 MT/s with 40-40-40-77 timings. It was generally stable though it would still occasionally produce errors. I plan to test 6000 MT/s with the timings you recommended.

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