Speculations about when Alder Lake will be launched are circulating.
Speculations about when Alder Lake will be launched are circulating.
Windows 11 is expected to debut on October 5th. This timing aligns well with Intel Alder Lake’s opportunity to demonstrate its capabilities, making it logical for Intel to launch the processor no sooner than then. Releasing it earlier would conflict with major global events like US Thanksgiving in late November and Christmas at year-end. In the United States, a December launch seems less ideal unless there’s a compelling reason to delay. Historical data shows Intel desktop CPUs typically follow a three-to-four-month cycle; Skylake launched in September 2015, Kaby Lake in January 2017, Coffee Lake in October 2017, and Comet/Rocket Lake in April 2020. Since Coffee Lake came after the 10nm process, Intel reverted to older manufacturing with Coffee Lake. A quicker rollout from Skylake onward would restore a more regular schedule. Would you support this approach or have different opinions?
I hope there are some DDR5 memory modules available when the new platform launches. Maybe a delay until January 2022 could be better...
I’m not really sure about my feelings on Alder Lake. Unless I upgrade past the 3080, I don’t see myself needing or wanting to move from my 10900k. By the time next-gen GPUs are released and supply problems arise, it’ll already be 2024, and by then Alder Lake will be outdated and broken.
I'm considering moving to Intel since their processors are just as reliable as AMD's but harder to customize, offering only minor improvements. I'll check out what the Alder Lake can do before deciding. Maybe I'll need to change my platform.
I'm not overly pessimistic about DDR5 availability, but costs will likely be the main deterrent. A 2022 release would be a significant setback for Intel. It would surpass the 10nm era and mark their recovery efforts. As usual, we don't need to upgrade every generation, especially when GPUs are more important for gaming. I've switched to Rocket Lake, and my current 6-core Coffee Lake system still lets me enjoy games without much restriction. It's mainly about what fits my budget. If we estimate a two-year interval between GPU releases, the next batch would probably be late in 2022. At most, we'd be near the end of the Alder Lake marketing phase. By 2024, GPUs would be two generations ahead and CPUs might catch up a bit. It depends on how the launch unfolds. Rocket Lake was being offered before the official release. Overclocking is nearly obsolete now, thanks to AMD's efforts. Since Zen+, AMD has pushed clock speeds close to their limits. For Intel to remain competitive, they'd have to follow suit. Right now, CPU overclocking seems to be a risky move—gaining performance in one area while risking instability elsewhere.
Was das ein Andeutung sein, dass ich eine negative Sichtweise hatte? Ich fragte mich nur nach der Wortwahl. Nach meiner Sicht handelt es sich um eine klare Tatsache: Die Erinnerung wird meist vor Boards und Prozessoren freigegeben und ist bis heute nicht sofort verfügbar (zumindest heute), aber ich hoffe, das ändert sich in ein paar Wochen? Ich denke nicht, dass Intel viel zu verlieren hat. Sie haben schon lange gut abgeschnitten. AMD kämpft immer noch mit den Folgen einer langsamen Entwicklung über ein Jahrzehnt, endlich ist es schneller bei der vierten Generation von Ryzen.
What you wrote made it sound like there wont be DDR5 availability for launch, or did I mis-read that? There's not really much point in selling it to consumers earlier when there is nothing to use with it yet. Depending on the size of the memory manufacturers they probably already know when Intel plan to launch and will time to coincide with that for marketing. Both companies would very much like to enjoy a leadership position. Right now it is Intel who are playing catchup. They are behind where they want to be, they are arguably behind where their main competition in the form of AMD are, but that depends more on how you measure it. I forgot the exact year but I think they are aiming to reclaim process leadership in 2025, and if they have the right architecture to go on it, it could do very well. Of course, AMD/TSMC are not standing still either, so it will be a fight going forwards.
I only mentioned hoping for DDR5 availability at launch since there isn't any yet. What are your thoughts on the timeline? Maybe it could arrive a week or two before the platform release. That's my perspective—once memory becomes widely available, we should expect a launch soon. I agree it wouldn't make sense to release DDR5 months ahead. Intel seems capable. 16 cores, with eight using hyper-threading. The Alder Lake looks promising this time. Overall...
That's accurate, though it also varies based on your playstyle. If you prefer fast-paced 1080p gaming at high refresh rates like 360Hz, you might run into CPU limitations in many titles—even with a mid-range GPU such as the 2080Ti or 3070. Games like Warzone BR and PuBG tend to be quite CPU-intensive, making every small gain significant for boosting FPS. You won’t achieve 360fps on these platforms with current CPUs. Interestingly, most of these games also benefit from faster RAM speeds. In higher refresh rate setups, quicker CPUs generally push maximum FPS even with more demanding GPUs like the 3080Ti or 3090. If we see 480Hz displays within the next couple of years and a 4090 offers roughly double the performance of a 3090, major improvements are necessary in CPU capabilities. I’m eager to watch how Zen4 stacks up or what Meteor Lake delivers. If Alder Lake provides noticeably better gaming performance compared to Comet Lake, I’d definitely think about moving from my Coffee Lake 8700k. Unless it improves at least by 20% over Comet Lake or Zen 3, I’ll likely pass on the upgrade.