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JulianKillerYT
Junior Member
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07-23-2016, 03:19 AM
#1
It runs close to the 5600X3D, matching performance levels seen in the 7 and 8 models... Perhaps other regions can reduce costs by adopting AM4 upgrades.
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JulianKillerYT
07-23-2016, 03:19 AM #1

It runs close to the 5600X3D, matching performance levels seen in the 7 and 8 models... Perhaps other regions can reduce costs by adopting AM4 upgrades.

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treeglider
Junior Member
9
07-25-2016, 06:48 PM
#2
Let it cease immediately.
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treeglider
07-25-2016, 06:48 PM #2

Let it cease immediately.

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BengalsRock21
Junior Member
24
08-01-2016, 01:46 AM
#3
This 6-core model paired with an X3D cache seems ideal for gaming-focused AM4 systems, as they usually don’t require the full 8 cores found in the 5700X3D or 5800X3D variants. And if it delivers performance close to the 5600X3D at a lower price, it looks like a solid value.
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BengalsRock21
08-01-2016, 01:46 AM #3

This 6-core model paired with an X3D cache seems ideal for gaming-focused AM4 systems, as they usually don’t require the full 8 cores found in the 5700X3D or 5800X3D variants. And if it delivers performance close to the 5600X3D at a lower price, it looks like a solid value.

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KateKitKat
Member
138
08-01-2016, 02:23 AM
#4
The 5600X3D usually wins over 5700X3D because of its faster boost clocks. If 5600X3D became common everywhere, there would be no need for 5700X3D at all. Whether 5500X3D makes sense depends on its own clock speeds as well.
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KateKitKat
08-01-2016, 02:23 AM #4

The 5600X3D usually wins over 5700X3D because of its faster boost clocks. If 5600X3D became common everywhere, there would be no need for 5700X3D at all. Whether 5500X3D makes sense depends on its own clock speeds as well.

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lila_lau
Junior Member
42
08-02-2016, 02:18 AM
#5
I understand, but if it lags by 100-200Mhz compared to a 5600X3D, the performance hit shouldn’t be significant. And even then, competitive pricing can offset that.
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lila_lau
08-02-2016, 02:18 AM #5

I understand, but if it lags by 100-200Mhz compared to a 5600X3D, the performance hit shouldn’t be significant. And even then, competitive pricing can offset that.

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Evolution88
Member
216
08-09-2016, 12:46 AM
#6
Guys, keep in mind the Ryzen 5 5500 isn't a downclocked 5600 or 5600X—it's a 5600G without an integrated graphics unit. Compared to the standard 5600, it has less combined cache. It runs more like the 3600 rather than the 5600. A 5500X3D could exist if available, featuring reduced L1 and L2 caches but plenty of L3, making it an interesting experiment. I'd prefer a 6-core X3D without SMT, naming it a Ryzen 3 5400X3D. Or a 4c/8t X3D Ryzen 3. Those would be top-tier CPU options.
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Evolution88
08-09-2016, 12:46 AM #6

Guys, keep in mind the Ryzen 5 5500 isn't a downclocked 5600 or 5600X—it's a 5600G without an integrated graphics unit. Compared to the standard 5600, it has less combined cache. It runs more like the 3600 rather than the 5600. A 5500X3D could exist if available, featuring reduced L1 and L2 caches but plenty of L3, making it an interesting experiment. I'd prefer a 6-core X3D without SMT, naming it a Ryzen 3 5400X3D. Or a 4c/8t X3D Ryzen 3. Those would be top-tier CPU options.

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kervinc
Posting Freak
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08-09-2016, 05:25 AM
#7
It's not necessary to seem too formal, but everyone doesn't require four cores these days.
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kervinc
08-09-2016, 05:25 AM #7

It's not necessary to seem too formal, but everyone doesn't require four cores these days.

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Dr_Apophis
Junior Member
43
08-12-2016, 08:40 AM
#8
It was my first thought, yet it seems odd to apply this mod to that kind of chip. They’d likely add huge spacers for this purpose. It probably fits more with the 5700x3D design, while its non-3D sibling is an APU monolithic die, and the 3D version is just a lower-level version of the standard Ryzen MCM layout.
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Dr_Apophis
08-12-2016, 08:40 AM #8

It was my first thought, yet it seems odd to apply this mod to that kind of chip. They’d likely add huge spacers for this purpose. It probably fits more with the 5700x3D design, while its non-3D sibling is an APU monolithic die, and the 3D version is just a lower-level version of the standard Ryzen MCM layout.

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SinAyy
Member
204
08-13-2016, 12:16 AM
#9
Avoid AMD's efforts to broaden the 56X3D availability.
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SinAyy
08-13-2016, 12:16 AM #9

Avoid AMD's efforts to broaden the 56X3D availability.

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KindOfAKing
Member
228
08-13-2016, 04:59 AM
#10
It was due to a supply problem—there weren’t enough rejected units to gather enough 5600x3D chips for a worldwide launch. It would have been reckless for them to deliberately discard higher-quality bins and cut profits by setting them up for 5600x3D. The situation wasn’t entirely AMD’s fault, but the manufacturing issues at TSMC and the challenges of producing the 3D v-cache mod process played a role.
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KindOfAKing
08-13-2016, 04:59 AM #10

It was due to a supply problem—there weren’t enough rejected units to gather enough 5600x3D chips for a worldwide launch. It would have been reckless for them to deliberately discard higher-quality bins and cut profits by setting them up for 5600x3D. The situation wasn’t entirely AMD’s fault, but the manufacturing issues at TSMC and the challenges of producing the 3D v-cache mod process played a role.

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