Slow startup on Ryzen 7000 series devices
Slow startup on Ryzen 7000 series devices
Hello everyone, I'm considering purchasing a 7900X and donating my 5900X to my son. I've reviewed many opinions and understand the "memory training" that Zen4 applies when you start your new build for the first time—like enabling the EXPO profile, adjusting RAM, or experiencing a power loss. However, I've noticed some users on Reddit reporting consistently slow boot times even after a clean shutdown. To put it simply: after turning off the system without losing power, pressing the power button still shows a black screen for about 30 seconds before the BIOS logo appears, followed by another 15-20 seconds to open Windows. The only solution mentioned is keeping DDR5 at its regular speed instead of XMP or EXPO. Recent AMD Agesa/BIOS updates haven't resolved this issue. It's surprising how few people discuss this problem online. Are others facing the same issue? If it doesn't improve soon, I might stick with my 5900X or switch to Intel. My Windows boot time is currently around 7 seconds after power-on.
New sites face problems that need fixing, which is common. The 12th Gen version also ran extremely slow when launched. It likely still has some of the slower startup times even when completely turned off.
It looks like an unusual problem (technically). As the person above mentioned, this is something common with a new platform. AM4 didn’t boot quickly either, especially when compared to Intel—just to note, it usually takes around 20-25 seconds to start Windows on my R5 3600, which isn’t terrible, but it still feels slow compared to what I expect.
I know new systems take time to develop and some challenges are normal, but it seems AMD and Intel thoroughly test everything before launching new parts, doesn't it? Why do early users always face these issues? *sigh* I’m going to keep my 5900X for now. It starts up quickly—just seven seconds cold. If I want longer warm-up times, I’ll install an older HDD. I saw a discussion on the MSI forum about this: MSI forum
They focus more on getting things running than on fast boot times. The main goal is stability and reliability, not speed. This approach suits someone who likes experimenting with new systems. I find it frustrating because I prefer upgrading for performance reasons. Buying a 5800X3D just makes sense now, as it’s better suited to my needs. My old DDR4 RAM works fine without the hassle of constant upgrades. If I’m testing early, compensation matters more than speed.
I own a Ryzen 7 7700X and an MSI B650 Tomahawk. The boot times are a bit slower compared to my old X470 and 3600X, but they improve after memory training. From powering off to starting the OS, it takes around 20 seconds on a cold boot—definitely not too long given how fast the Ryzen platform becomes once you're in.
Most users think they'll recover on their own and wait for the next AGESA/BIOS release. I’m much more focused and will hold off until they fix it. After all, I won’t waste money on a new CPU/mobo or RAM that runs slower than the old version. As Mark Kaine put it, I don’t want to be a beta tester without getting compensated.
Sure, I can clarify that. Slower boot times don’t really help performance; in fact, they often slow things down initially. The new memory training by AMD is meant to optimize how the system starts up, but it doesn’t change the overall speed of the hardware. Some BIOS features like bypass training exist, but they aren’t always effective. It seems manufacturers are aware of these limitations and are trying to balance performance with other factors.