F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Slow AMD system boot issues can be resolved by checking startup settings and updating drivers.

Slow AMD system boot issues can be resolved by checking startup settings and updating drivers.

Slow AMD system boot issues can be resolved by checking startup settings and updating drivers.

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Durif
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12-29-2023, 07:35 AM
#1
Hey everyone! Here’s a revised version of your message:

Hi all! I’m bringing this up again because it keeps happening. Sorry about the video—just wanted to share. When I power on the PC, it goes through a series of light cycles (orange, red, white, green) and then powers up, just like in the video. There’s no issue at all, it happens every time. It’s a new build, and I’m curious—could it be related to using XMP RAM on an AMD CPU? I’ve enabled Expo and everything works, but it’s slow when starting up. It feels much slower than my other PC from 7 years ago with a Gen 3 NVMe drive. The CPU temps are also high, around 40°C in BIOS on the 7800X3D (50°C+ when browsing). Compared to my new build with a smaller RAM module in BIOS (33°C), it’s definitely different. Could this be the cause? I’m thinking about replacing the RAM or switching to Expo modules if it’s really the issue. Thanks for checking!
You can see the video here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/XenresEU/saved/cpJvRB 20231101_140654.mp4
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Durif
12-29-2023, 07:35 AM #1

Hey everyone! Here’s a revised version of your message:

Hi all! I’m bringing this up again because it keeps happening. Sorry about the video—just wanted to share. When I power on the PC, it goes through a series of light cycles (orange, red, white, green) and then powers up, just like in the video. There’s no issue at all, it happens every time. It’s a new build, and I’m curious—could it be related to using XMP RAM on an AMD CPU? I’ve enabled Expo and everything works, but it’s slow when starting up. It feels much slower than my other PC from 7 years ago with a Gen 3 NVMe drive. The CPU temps are also high, around 40°C in BIOS on the 7800X3D (50°C+ when browsing). Compared to my new build with a smaller RAM module in BIOS (33°C), it’s definitely different. Could this be the cause? I’m thinking about replacing the RAM or switching to Expo modules if it’s really the issue. Thanks for checking!
You can see the video here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/XenresEU/saved/cpJvRB 20231101_140654.mp4

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Grifo24O
Member
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12-29-2023, 05:54 PM
#2
Fast boot is activated in Windows and turned off in BIOS. Have you attempted to disable XMP (expo) and adjust primary timings and DRAM voltage manually? Also, is CSM disabled in the BIOS during boot?
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Grifo24O
12-29-2023, 05:54 PM #2

Fast boot is activated in Windows and turned off in BIOS. Have you attempted to disable XMP (expo) and adjust primary timings and DRAM voltage manually? Also, is CSM disabled in the BIOS during boot?

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Kiwitjeeexx
Member
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01-16-2024, 08:05 PM
#3
Slow memory training is a problem with AM5 as far as I remember. There is an option in BIOS that helps to mitigate that but I can’t remember it on top of my head.
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Kiwitjeeexx
01-16-2024, 08:05 PM #3

Slow memory training is a problem with AM5 as far as I remember. There is an option in BIOS that helps to mitigate that but I can’t remember it on top of my head.

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imTri
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01-20-2024, 03:26 PM
#4
It's typical with most motherboards you encounter. This usually stems from having 64GB of RAM, not from XMP settings. AM5 boards tend to have boot times that scale directly with RAM size, so a 64GB setup will naturally be slower. The same applies to the 2x32GB 6000 CL30 EXPO kit I used on a 7900X build. Memory Context Restore might help (ASUS boards often disable it by default), which could prevent memory training and thus speed things up, though results can vary. AMD processors generally stay cooler under higher temperatures than Intel ones because of their boost algorithm. AMD chips rarely stay at full idle, constantly preparing to respond quickly, whereas Intel systems tend to stay cooler during idle. Everything here matches what you expect. If the slowdown bothers you enough to think about swapping RAM, just return it and opt for half the cost as a quick fix.
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imTri
01-20-2024, 03:26 PM #4

It's typical with most motherboards you encounter. This usually stems from having 64GB of RAM, not from XMP settings. AM5 boards tend to have boot times that scale directly with RAM size, so a 64GB setup will naturally be slower. The same applies to the 2x32GB 6000 CL30 EXPO kit I used on a 7900X build. Memory Context Restore might help (ASUS boards often disable it by default), which could prevent memory training and thus speed things up, though results can vary. AMD processors generally stay cooler under higher temperatures than Intel ones because of their boost algorithm. AMD chips rarely stay at full idle, constantly preparing to respond quickly, whereas Intel systems tend to stay cooler during idle. Everything here matches what you expect. If the slowdown bothers you enough to think about swapping RAM, just return it and opt for half the cost as a quick fix.

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01-20-2024, 06:23 PM
#5
Thanks a lot. I was concerned something might be wrong, but everything seems okay. I can keep the RAM. Thanks again.
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TheBionicSheep
01-20-2024, 06:23 PM #5

Thanks a lot. I was concerned something might be wrong, but everything seems okay. I can keep the RAM. Thanks again.

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rydawg3474
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01-20-2024, 06:49 PM
#6
Everything seems fine, I own a 32GB GSKILL Trident Expo 6000 CL32 (6000 CL30 is available at the same price but sold out hours earlier than I planned to buy). I also have a 7800X3D, which typically takes over 30 seconds to boot. It's a bit bothersome, but I prefer waiting an additional 15-20 seconds so my RAM can be retrained and keep everything running smoothly. Probably won't make a big difference, but it feels better that way.
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rydawg3474
01-20-2024, 06:49 PM #6

Everything seems fine, I own a 32GB GSKILL Trident Expo 6000 CL32 (6000 CL30 is available at the same price but sold out hours earlier than I planned to buy). I also have a 7800X3D, which typically takes over 30 seconds to boot. It's a bit bothersome, but I prefer waiting an additional 15-20 seconds so my RAM can be retrained and keep everything running smoothly. Probably won't make a big difference, but it feels better that way.

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Claretatt
Junior Member
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01-21-2024, 01:52 AM
#7
Not sure how to handle it manually, I don’t want to mess anything up. I’ll need to check fast boot when I get home. Not sure what CSM is, I’ll look it up when I’m back :x
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Claretatt
01-21-2024, 01:52 AM #7

Not sure how to handle it manually, I don’t want to mess anything up. I’ll need to check fast boot when I get home. Not sure what CSM is, I’ll look it up when I’m back :x

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kykycake
Member
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01-21-2024, 06:40 AM
#8
The key factor seems to be turning off memory training. Try it first, as this is the usual solution, though it may not suit everyone and can cause issues in rare instances. If problems appear, you can simply reset the setting easily.
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kykycake
01-21-2024, 06:40 AM #8

The key factor seems to be turning off memory training. Try it first, as this is the usual solution, though it may not suit everyone and can cause issues in rare instances. If problems appear, you can simply reset the setting easily.

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Daboss132
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01-24-2024, 09:42 AM
#9
Attempting again once I'm back. Thanks!
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Daboss132
01-24-2024, 09:42 AM #9

Attempting again once I'm back. Thanks!